Dad Disowns Son Via Letter...

I bet the holocaust was fake and made up by liberals to suppress basic humans rights to own guns.

To give Eggbert some small benefit of the doubt, there has been precedence for internet hoax-blogs, ranging from cancer-blogs to the now-infamous "A Gay Girl in Damascus" blog. High profile new sources (CNN, Washington Post, etc. I believe) jumped eagerly at that story before it was clear that it was a hoax.

But determining authenticity (beyond face-value) of a blog does require some work and reasonable level of scrutiny/digging, such as with MacMaster's blog. But I am not sure it's entirely possible to determine (through internet sources only) RegBarc's identity beyond his Reddit account.

His account does only have a few posts...

http://www.reddit.com/user/RegBarc/submitted/

...and of course the vast majority of his comments were over this exact Reddit post.

I'll wait for Snopes to figure this one out, but as Terminus said, even if it were some hoax or attempt to ride-on-the-Chic-Fil-A-sensationalism, the issue still exists and is relevant I'd say, regardless of his identity.

Regardless. It hasn't been published that this is a hoax. So as it stands It's real. I have more reason to believe the Huffington Post over some idiot who thinks 9/11 never happened.

So if you wan't to put all your eggs in the "eggbert" basket by all means.

LOL good gravy, all I suggested was to keep an open mind about what is submitted on the internet. ^^ But no worries. :p

Correct and just as in law, you and Eggbert have what we call the "burden of proof." Not Huffington Post, SFGate or any other news org.

I'm not going to argue the issue, I only suggested keeping an open mind about the circumstances as they do change over time. If you want to paint me in a position where I am antagonistic to you only because I suggested that (and you are the OP) feel free, I suppose, but it's not that way at all.

Should probably leave the 9/11 debate for another thread or PM's. None of that is about the topic at hand.

I personally believe that the father made a serious mistake when he "disowned" his son. The verses of John that were posted earlier are just the tip of the iceberg of how wrong this guy was. One should love his family unconditionally and be able to look past the sin.

I had a similar conversation with my own mother recently that was brought on by the debate of gay marriage. My mother, a devout Christian, and myself, a left-wing liberal moderate, see the issue differently. During this debate, I asked her hypothetically: "if I were gay, would you still love me the same way?" She said of course and that while she would be disappointed in my choice to pursue a relationship with another man, she would never treat me any differently.

We agreed to disagree regarding the issue of same sex marriage, but we are both on the same page about how it would serve people better to love one another regardless of sexual orientation. I feel that the father should have certainly made an effort to look past his son's transgressions.

There was a time my family and I thought my brother was gay. I just flat out told him I don't care what team he pitches or catches for, lol. He was not gay. Just unlucky with the ladies for a time. Point is, I loved him no matter what!

Lets leave the derailing and trolls to a minimum prz.

Yah I think whether the original letter may or may not be authentic or not is semi-irrelevant here guys. MANY MANY kids go through this.

Its definitely not something many kids want to talk about over dinner. It's humiliating in many regards.

Stuff like this is heading to media outlets yes because of the Chick-Fil-A ordeal, and yes because of the upcoming election. But what people need to realize is that these topics are things that have been taboo for many years.

I remember when LGBT issues were taboo, we didn't talk about their rights. So in 2012 its a nice change to have an open discussion regarding the issues effecting a demographic that the world has "locked in the closet."

It is a touchy subject as it is. In my opinion, I don't worry about how someone else should live their life. Who am I to condemn someone else's way of life when I have my own to contend with.

Its unneeded thought drama.

It's a touchy subject because I think how it originated. Not sure the age group of players tbh. But if you think about it LGBT issues stemmed from the HIV/AIDS "crisis" in the early 80's. There was a time when news sources where claiming gays were the carriers of HIV/AIDS exclusively. There was a time when they said gays would give you the disease via kissing! That's why their was such a huge ordeal when Princess Diana kissed that patient. (not sure if anyone else remembers that.)

Prior to that, you really didn't talk about that kind of stuff. But over the course of 20 years ***has happened.

I believe that AIDS/HIV thing was a scare tactic placed on the public by certain interests and church funded group to sway the people to have them treat LGBT horribly. It's stupid as we are all humans with different lives to live.

Every decades its always a new thing. Just wait until 2020.

I find it hard to believe a father would disown his son over something so petty.

People routinely kill each other because "You don't believe in the God I believe in", why is it so hard to believe some guy would disown his son because "the bible taught him that homosexuality is wrong"..

Sadly it does occur. Traumas such as that contribute to the high suicide rates among LGBT people, particularly teens that get ostracised by family.

He was disowned for being gay. Not for leaving an empty milk carton in the fridge.

I don't. My father is a prime example of this. He's very homophobic, which is hilarious to me because he's an Atheist. His reasoning is more along the lines of his upbringing. He was born and raised in the fifties and sixties in Alabama, just to give you an idea. Anyway, one day I asked him, "What would you do if one of your sons was gay? Would you stop talking to him?" to which he responded with, "Let's not talk about that."

LOL I think he meant petty, as in the father's issue not the song being gay himself. I THINK! I may be wrong.


EDIT: Great movie. Very much related to post. Its in English, despite its title. It's about a young gay male who comes out to his family, they shun him and no longer welcome him. Then there's a secondary plot with his sister getting pregnant.

Because of the fact that it is his child who he raised and not some random person with different views.

@Pleebo Yea, I know... petty

How is that exactly? By using a brainwashing machine or making a device that reads thoughts so people can be arrested for thought crimes?

No matter the religion, they all disagree with homosexuality. Some people who aren't even religious view homosexuality with disdain. Those gay pride parades don't exactly help the issue.

In 2008 when California voted on gay marriage, it failed. Actually a vote on gay marriage has never passed. 51% of whites, 51% of asians, 53% of hispanics and 70% of blacks voted against gay marriage.

When asked about the vote on gay marriage in California, Obama said he did not support gay marriage. This was in 2008 and as everyone should know by now has flip flopped on the issue.

So over half of the population doesn't even want gay marriage, but a significantly less per cent of the population doesn't like homosexuality to the extreme like this man doesn't.

Even with extreme pro gay propaganda you couldn't get 100% of the population on board in a 1000 years.

For the record I'm gay but I can actually think realistically about things. Not daydream about how one day all of those people who don't like homosexuality will be gone.

There have been some updates regarding those issues FYI.

1) Prop 8 was found unconstitutional by the State of California. The courts decided Judge Walker's decision was valid.

2) Obama in 2012, the DNC and DNC Chairman Villaraigosa all support same-sex marriage.

Prop 8 supporters are running out of options the courts have found it unconstitutional twice. It will be made legal in California probably another year or two. The legal process isn't over night. They've resorted to their last option which is they've request the Supreme Court here the case. The Supreme Court will issue them a court date by no later than Aug 31, or reject the case.

Letter looks fake but I'm sure it happens.

Wouldn't you want to speak with your son face-to-face when disowning him? If he honestly believed that being gay was a choice, wouldn't you go to him and try to convince him what he is doing is wrong (in his mind) instead of losing him?

I mean... somethings need to be said face-to-face and not through writing. He probably wrote a letter because he can't text or send an email >.>..

I feel guilty because I disowned my own father over a more vital matter and with words far more eloquent, and none the less over email. Needless to say I still and will always feel the decision as rash, despite how necessary it may and does seem.

If he knew I was gay perhaps I wouldn't have even be lead to such ends. I suppose that's something I'll never know.

I'm jealous of those of you who can still talk to your fathers. Embrace that, please, for me. And everyone else.

Incorrect.

this would feel like failure on my part if i was the guy who wrote the letter. To find out you failed your son, id at least done it face to face.

What it comes down is the golden rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Guy, straight, black, white. What ever God you worship or not.live and let live. And try and be happy!

Even if it is, we all know that disownment due to sexual orientation is a common enough occurrence, and the reasons are generally similar to the ones in the letter.

While this individual case may be faked -- or may not, I'm not a detective -- this is a very real scenario.