[Dev] BST: TH+ Equipment Will Not Come

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I did my first dyna in over 8 months today.

Went on BLU.

283 coins

Just because they said that gear with Pet TH on it will increase your TH does not mean they are releasing it. It implies it, but they didn't say they were going too or promised from what I saw.
QQ over a *** job

why would they even mention something like that in an update notice if they never planned to release it? its like.. hey bst can now charm in abyssea. what.. we never promised that. basically either they dont know what they are talking about, or they purposely lied to keep bsts from getting too mad about losing some TH.

im not a bst, nor did i think bst needed that much TH, but this is just another reason why you cant trust anything they say, unless its a nerf

Ok put it the way you just said it, that's true. It IMPLIES that they are going to make/implement gear with stats for Pet TH, however did they give you a timeframe or a scale of when it was going to be implemented? If not then who said they aren't working on it now?

I'm pretty sure the game revolves around bigger things than giving the BST bandwagon another reason to exist and crash the currency market..

Well why should BST get TH in the first place tbh.. It's not like they work hard on killing mobs/NMs. I could level it tomorrow get it to 30 cleave and put perle gear on and I'm just like the 80% who play it.

You can't trust what they say anyway whether or not it's for your job.

lol because every job doesn't work like the above.

BST should get TH because unlike THF/RNG it can't raise the level, pets should get the traits of their respective jobs, pets are already underpowered on anything that matters and the job is a wash outside soloing some ***under the cap.

But lets continue with the TH is broken argument on a class that sees nothing of endgame unless you consider grinding EPs in Dynamis as 'endgame'. A job with no place in endgame is truely balanced, I suppose.

Not exactly like that, but follows the same principle as what the 80% new people who've leveled it have done.

Yes the Pets should get their respective traits, understandable. If it says so then ofc you'll be expecting them to have it.

Maybe I worded that part wrong and should have said, Why shouldn't they get a decrease in TH. It's not like it's difficult to play either way. Get rewarded for playing like a pussy. No thanks..
That's not applying to Dynamis only just NM's and drops overall.

I hate reading these threads, they always make me feel bad lol. I mean, if you average 200 on a perle BST and I rarely break the 200 mark on a BST that I thought was very well geared then wtf am I doing wrong. I usually make about 185-195, sometimes as low as 175~ depending on competition and luck with drops. Currently making STR Axe and OaT Axe but I can't see that increasing my average by 30-40 coins.

Before TH nerf the most I made was 246.

The auto part is fine but I don't think they perform penis reduction surgery anywhere.

Hmm Ok lol.

Nerfs are never good especially on a class that already circles the toilet bowl of oblivion outside Dynamis/lvl75 content. When I see BST being able to do anything at built-for-99 content perhaps my opinion on the matter will change.

Also, I don't know what you're getting at regarding the playstyle of BST but its silly given you're talking about content that is lvl75 and overall no different than taking a DD+healer while doing the same thing. Sic a pet as a tank is a 'pussy' playstyle? By that logic so is a THF riding EVA gear against anything or engaging on MNK with haste/songs up.

But that aside, the only reason people complained and a nerf happened is because of individuals who wanted more open camps (an issue born of the difficulty of city dynamis vs. CoP), the plummet in Dynamis prices due to supply booms (an issue that later comes back to bite upgraders) and SE yet again wanting to hide behind 'balance' on a job that is already underpowered.

Perhaps if they'd tweaked city Dynamis to not suck people wouldn't have been competing so hard for the same handful of EPs in a Dynamis zone.

Not even gonna get into any of the bst vs blu or w/e job argument since it will get no where. The problem here is that SE clearly stated before BSTs got nerfed that they would provide TH+ gear to compensate for losing the TH we had. Now they say that they never said it and actually think that we would all be ok with a flat out lie like that. It would have been better for them to just say "Bst TH will now be level 1." and that's it.

To top things off it wasn't just bst that was hoping for TH gear since they stated they would be looking to implement gear that affected ALL pet jobs. So not only did they lie to bst, add in smn and pup too. How anyone can say "GOOD" and be rated up heavily by the majority that jobs are being singled out and lied to by the devs is beyond me. Anyway I'm sure most of the career bsts like myself saw this coming, its nothing new, my only hope is that with the new zones coming out charm will become viable again so people can see what real bsts can do.

Mad at what, we were lied to about getting a piece of gear that dosent effect us in anyway.

Well let me ask the people who are so down on BST some questions.

What do you want from us? What do you want us to be? We don't seem fit in your party structures, and you seem to be perfectly happy with that. You don't want us to be able to solo for our gear/currency effectively either. It seems that a lot of people would prefer that BST have no place at all. Do you guys feel the same about other jobs as well? Why or why not?

I want bst to go back to the old ways, were you didnt get pt invites, you had to solo all the way to 75, charmed things, and didnt live off of "call beast" put pet on something then afk.

I guess I should have specified "intelligent responses only." Sorry, about that.

i hate bst and i hate pet of bst !! on dyna only :) so "c'est bien fait pour vous" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha !!! and bst dont need th gears ! bst go to hell ! :)

I personally find that most BST's are rude and inconsiderate of other players around them.

They constantly pull the majority of enemies in the area slowing other players down, pulling enemies near other players so they have to run to a different location, then following them so other players have to constantly move around them. Instead of sweeping the area with players around them, like just about everyone else does, they feel the need to take everything for themselves.

Just because we are competing against each other for claims does not excuse them of being inconsiderate and lack respect for everyone around them. I have met maybe 10-12 BST's that tried to work with other players instead of pushing them away.

We have dozens of opportunities every dynamis run to steal your blinking targets jumping from your pet fighting and what you're fighting, but the majority of players will not steal from you. BST's pull half the camp yet most players won't pull off of you. It's a complete lack of respect for players around you, yet you all still ask why players hate BST's in dynamis.

It's one of the things that really ruined the new dynamis for me and I honestly would of enjoyed it much more if BST's respected their competition a bit more instead of constantly trying to be in the way of others. It really doesn't make it any fun for me to constantly avoid BST in dynamis, and it upsets me that I even have to avoid a single job to begin with.

Why, pray tell do you hate BST? I assume it's because you've seen a bst holding 5 or so mobs and think they're being selfish and hoarding mobs.

So let me inform you that most bst will probably hold 1 mob on themself while the pet kills a proc'd mob, at least to me that's always seemed the most efficient, when you see a bst with loads of mob 2 scenarios have probably occured:

1) The BST in question needs a new mob but the only ones available are in a cluster, the safe option there is to throw the pet at the group and start procing.

2) Links, they happen especially when there's no threat to have links so there's no reason to pull a mob away from potential links since they are easily handled.

Are you trying to be polite and not take mobs a pet is attacking? If there's a bst with a group of mobs and none for you, look for one with high health that is attacking, odds are it'll be unproced so in theory should avoid conflict.

Of course if you hate the perle bsts well, everyone hates them like all the aurore nins, perle wars and teal blms.

Actually Kalilla I found people were rude to me in dynamis when I did nothing to provoke them, example: I'll go D-Qufim @ 7pm CST 5-10 people in zone? cool I'll go fight DC mobs so I'll avoid the normies then a random party will come along and proceed with the ever pleasant "Hey *** move! we can kill faster than you hahahaha" so it goes both ways.

I never "camp" people but they sure like doing it to me np.

Like I said, the majority of players will not interfere with what you're doing, that doesn't mean everyone is going to leave you alone. Some players really hate BST in Dynamis and will push them away with a group of players or pull off of them.

Ah well what can you do other than move on lol.

This may be how you play bst, but you are not the only bst. What I see more often then not is a bst will come to a camp and run thru pulling a bunch of mobs, then sit in the corner and proc them while their pet kills. They are not getting adds or accidentally pulling more than 1 because of how the mobs are grouped. They are purposely pulling as many as possible.

Yes, there are polite bsts out there. In fact, there is one bst who usually dynas at the same time as us every day. Typically we share a camp. He's respectful of us and we are respectful of him.

I also do not understand why anyone (regardless of job) would show up to a smaller camp, see all the mobs dead, and then wait for respawn knowing the duo there just cleaned the camp. That is not only counter productive to the duo, but also to the solo'er themselves. Yet everyday, I see it happen.

Whether or not it was intelligent or stupid, it's true. I didn't know pressing call beast took a lot of skill so we had to give you guys a break.


Putting BST on something and AFKing/running away is difficult I know, so sorry I can't call you a pussy ........



If you read my posts, you'd see I specified my arguments NOT only about Dynamis. So yes breezing your cry about 75 content excuses/reasoning.

THF using EVA gear isn't exactly a pussy playstyle. They still are risking themselves to get hit are they not?

I don't see the risk or effort it takes to put pet on let's say.. Gamayun or Turul idk anything that comes to mind first.

Then going AFK for a piss, scratch my nutsack and get some food. Come back, reward my pet for being a slave and watch youtube. Come back check my drops.

Hard work yo

Beating a dead horse etc.

If I specified you, I would have mentioned your playstyle however I didn't..

I'm speaking for 90%+ BST players. Half of you can't even lie about doing it when you probably have quite a few times or maybe often, or hell nearly all the NM kills you do.
It's just a job in my eyes where if I had nobody to play with too then maybe I'd level it to justify playing in such a conservatively ***way.

So much butthurt in this thread.