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 Lakshmi.Stepth
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By Lakshmi.Stepth 2014-06-18 18:54:59  
How would Buremete Gloves augmented with MDMG+4 compare to current options?

Also, am I right in thinking that Uk'uxkaj Cap with the +8 AGI augment outdoes Lanun +1 for WF/Salute?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-19 01:17:19  
So I did a little testing and found out that "magic damage +1" is only equal to 1.1-1.8~ actual damage... or less

I don't know if this was a known stat or not, but it makes the stat completely worthless at least for magical ws... so that, any augs with Magic Damage on them are worthless, and can go ahead and toss Umbani, unless you use it for RACC...

Gotta say I was pretty damn depressed finding out that wayfarer, the damn sparks hat is best in slot for the head (at least that I can think of atm without augmenting Uk with agi)

Naked except hat damages;
Vanir knife/ not vanir knife
1778/ 1705 33 AGI (uk aug 8 agi)
1777/ 1700 19 AGI 5 MAB(wayfarer)
1768/ 1694 31 AGI (Af +1 lanun+1)
1730/ 1656 24 AGI 5 Magic Attack (umbani)

(talking about wildfire)
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2014-06-19 03:25:53  
info Barataria ring drop from WKR yorcia idk on kuhmau . (AT final evaluation) if people still looking where?! :) GL <- got it :)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-19 04:38:38  
New Leaden Salute ftp values(be in awe):
1000: 4
2000: 6.75
3000: 10

Scar confirmed my values too, so this seems correct. There are still some things to figure out in the formula(the level part has been changed) but the most notable thing is Moonshade with tp bonus is op. Added a Leaden set in the guide, the side/downgrades are the same as WF so there's only one for both.
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By Asura.Kormak 2014-06-19 05:32:40  
So new best earring for Wildfire and Leaden is MAB+4 TP bonus Moonshade?

I know this is subject to any upcoming nerfs of the TP system but as a noob who has never bothered to WoTG, I was going to make one tonight and want to be sure im selecting the best option.

To me it seems atk or acc (of any variety) +4 isn't as useful as the MAB +4, is this a well grounded assumption?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-19 05:34:45  
Not for WF, tp bonus would just give a miniscule enmity-. For Leaden though the boost is huge and tp bonus/mab would be ideal. Consider though the mab augment would be worth only for Leaden and nothing else, so think of your other jobs as attack, acc, etc could still be a better choice.
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2014-06-19 21:27:09  
What augments would make Uk'uxkaj Cap best in tp set now? I noticed the change in the tp set in the guide.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-20 04:54:51  
Really even without is better, I just fiddled a bit more with various combinations and Uk comes out ahead(unless you need accuracy then Whirlpool).
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-20 17:06:16  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Not for WF, tp bonus would just give a miniscule enmity-. For Leaden though the boost is huge and tp bonus/mab would be ideal. Consider though the mab augment would be worth only for Leaden and nothing else, so think of your other jobs as attack, acc, etc could still be a better choice.


Hot shot dmg gets bonus with TP, and it's 70% AGI. There's a good chance that ftp is high too!
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-20 18:25:39  
Use martial gun for leaden salute avg higher than DP on adoulin mandy :X
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-20 21:50:11  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Use martial gun for leaden salute avg higher than DP on adoulin mandy :X

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By fractalvoid 2014-06-20 22:02:13  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Use martial gun for leaden salute avg higher than DP on adoulin mandy :X

What is this disappointment? ._.

Should try on Marjami delve sometime, duh
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-20 23:53:04  
New leaden salute works quite well on T3/4/5 and wopket in yorcia :D Not as crazy as Fudo, but it's still a solid 7~8k WS every 1000 TP on higher def NM that doesn't need to worry about accuracy or attack.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-06-21 13:39:20  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Oat+mab seems the best idea if you don't have both Vanir and R15 Sabebus. If you have both of those then mab and macc.

I have a Path C Sabebus R15, and I'm seriously considering the Atoyac OAT+MAB combo, mainly for /dnc solo situations (gotta farm them Job points) and mainhanding the Atoyac for WS's when not /dnc etc. Don't have Vanir Knife. So it would be a good combo then?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-21 13:45:34  
Absolutely.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-23 00:18:10  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Use martial gun for leaden salute avg higher than DP on adoulin mandy :X
Does Marksmanship skill not affect resist rate/magic accuracy for Leaden Salute?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-23 00:23:22  
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Use martial gun for leaden salute avg higher than DP on adoulin mandy :X
Does Marksmanship skill not affect resist rate/magic accuracy for Leaden Salute?

It does, which is why he said its best on the Mandys. Anything above fodder mob level and you will start seeing a lot of resists.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-23 04:52:18  
Cor Roll will affect capacity points too next update, which is pretty great if you ask me!
..though I was hoping for new buffs too :(
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2014-06-24 16:45:17  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Cor Roll will affect capacity points too next update, which is pretty great if you ask me!
..though I was hoping for new buffs too :(

I agree. I would also be happy with an ability similar to Pianissimo or that elusive 3rd roll we have always wanted! (Insert Sad Panda face here)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-24 16:47:05  
I would rather Tenuto, pianissimo would be annoying as *** with our timers if everyone in party wants a different buff!
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-25 01:19:38  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
New leaden salute works quite well on T3/4/5 and wopket in yorcia :D Not as crazy as Fudo, but it's still a solid 7~8k WS every 1000 TP on higher def NM that doesn't need to worry about accuracy or attack.

May I ask your set up, were you /rdm /sch using staff?
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By Tylaar 2014-06-25 01:56:06  
I'm curious also.. I'm only using JSE gun atm but have most of the main pieces listed for the general Salute builds and was pretty disappointed, falling very short of these numbers :(
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-25 02:21:06  
Consider Afania has DP, which is 30% bonus to Leaden. At 1000 tp a non DP user should easily put up between 5k and 6k dmg on Wopket.
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-25 04:05:25  
Again though what sub is that subbing sam or rng or war or mage?

My leaden ws set isn't optimal but its not rubbish either on Mandy outside adoulin /dnc 3k tp outside it hit for 9.3 k using sabeus and atoyac. I assume that's about right....

Was thinking about it's viability on tojil 100-75% phase if it would best laststand.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-25 04:29:59  
My numbers are dancer sub with standard melee buffs. Leaden works wonderfully on Tojil, just switch to Last Stand for piercing phase.
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-25 04:44:09  
Great thanks will probably try it tonight. Also did a bee run with 2 cor and samurai and needless to say we destroyed it lol so if any cors are feeling adventurous try it ul be pleasantly surprised.
Think we ended up doing chaos hunters fighters and misers rolls lots of pew pew going on hehehehe.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-25 07:10:55  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Consider Afania has DP, which is 30% bonus to Leaden. At 1000 tp a non DP user should easily put up between 5k and 6k dmg on Wopket.


Besides DP, there are other ways to increase the dmg:

1)Enter on darksday!

2)If you bring a SCH get voidstorm from them!

That should easily bring Leaden to 8k+ avg range.

I rechecked last yorcia run after update, my leaden avg with voidstorm but no darksday bouns is:

Moreseiu: Avg 8488
Mandy: Avg 7398
Morta is about the same range as mandy unless I'm anmesiaed and hold more than 2000 TP(that would screw the avg). On wopket Avg 9383...but this avg is screwed too because I opened 1 WS with 250 TP and then another 150 TP WS. It's around 7k~8k range like mandy and Moreseiu.

Every other leaden I WS at 1000~1100 TP, rarely 1200+. If you get both storm/days bonus it's possible to hit 9k avg.



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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
New leaden salute works quite well on T3/4/5 and wopket in yorcia :D Not as crazy as Fudo, but it's still a solid 7~8k WS every 1000 TP on higher def NM that doesn't need to worry about accuracy or attack.

May I ask your set up, were you /rdm /sch using staff?

I was /DNC, my setup was nearly the same as first page, with the exception of Stormsoul instead of archon ring(too gimp, don't have it :D), Sabebus instead of Atoyac(can't hit with atoyac in delve2!) and delve bullet instead of MAB bullet(too cheap :D)

I also had lolMAB augment on TP bonus moonshade.

Tylaar said: »
I'm curious also.. I'm only using JSE gun atm but have most of the main pieces listed for the general Salute builds and was pretty disappointed, falling very short of these numbers :(

Path C Pulfanxa is better than JSE if you don't have DP.

Valefor.Sehachan said: »
My numbers are dancer sub with standard melee buffs. Leaden works wonderfully on Tojil, just switch to Last Stand for piercing phase.

Hmmm interesting, because I've tried on Tojil but the number wasn't very good. Although I only tried 1 leaden on Tojil and I may get resist. Personally I full time last stand in Morimar.

Just curious, what was your leaden salute number on tojil on none piercing phrase?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-25 07:19:13  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
can't hit with atoyac in delve2
This isn't true actually. I go cor/dnc to Yorcia and use Sabebus(path A)and Atoyac(oat+mab)and have capped acc on everything but Wopket(because of *** Flash spam). Acc food+hunter roll.

Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Just curious, what was your leaden salute number on tojil on none piercing phrase?
I don't remember the exact number as I don't save parses, but my ws were all between 5k and 6k at 1000 TP. Using a R3C Pulfanxa(didn't have enough plasm to upgrade yet).
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-25 07:52:49  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
can't hit with atoyac in delve2
This isn't true actually. I go cor/dnc to Yorcia and use Sabebus(path A)and Atoyac(oat+mab)and have capped acc on everything but Wopket(because of *** Flash spam). Acc food+hunter roll.

What is your acc TP set looks like? And did you full time hunter's roll? Although in the case of OAT, sacrificing multi hit in gear/buff for acc is probably better(have to take a look at TP set post update later). It's just annoying(and lowers DPS) to do 3 different kind of rolls for every melee :<
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