The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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 Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-01-03 21:24:03  
I'm very unfamiliar with gearswap and well... lua in general but I see lots of things about it that I'm interested in so I'd like to learn as much as possible so I can start translating my XML. These lists are resource files I'm guessing?
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By Shiva.Devrom 2014-01-04 05:51:38  
Can we safely assume that the eminence sword is simply better than hq achuka sword? I noticed you took the swords off your gear lists so is this still debatable?
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-01-04 05:59:09  
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Eminent Scimitar
Interesting weapon, this. It serves as quite a nice sword, and doesn't seem like it's remarkably difficult to get, requiring only some time spent doing Eminence. It is slightly worse than Xiutleato in terms of its stopping power, lacking STR and VIT to increase the damage of your swords and spells, however it gains a small edge over its red, demonic cousin when it comes to melee DoT. When your TP is below 100, you will unlock the latent that gives this sword a respectable D of 128 as well as imparting upon you a few more points of accuracy and attack. If you haven't been able to get Achuka to give you what you want or do not have a Buramenk'ah or Anahera Saber to pair with Xiutleato, then this is a fine alternative.

Swords are still in the guide.
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By Shiva.Devrom 2014-01-04 06:43:48  
Asura.Ackeronll said: »
Swords are still in the guide.

I didn't say he took them off the guide completely, I said "gear lists", maybe should have said "gear sets" and btw, that explanation for Eminence Scimitar is most likely outdated. I was making reference to this post, you must have missed it:

Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Hm. You know, since the Eminent weapons are basically just Perdu MK.II (model, latent, general premise all the same), it's likely that the latent is active during weaponskills as well as under 100TP, just like old Perdu weapons. That would make Eminent Scimitar better than Xiutlaeto, which means I'll need to do a bit of revising.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-01-04 07:52:29  
Ah sorry guess I missed it. My bad.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-04 18:07:00  
Yes, eminence scimitar is better than Xiutlaeto always
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By Ophannus 2014-01-04 18:11:51  
Only time I use Xiutlaeto is in a situation where I'm hanging back and spamming Glutinous Dart like in Colkhab or other WKR freaking rapes Colkhab btw. 300% CAfflux Azure Lore= 8.3k+ on first cast followed by 4.5k+ every cast after, then High Jump at the end to fall under capped hate and let some other capped hate shmuck get hit.
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By Ragnarok.Bardiel 2014-01-05 11:23:35  
Anyone else notice that setting Glutinous Dart doesn't give the Max HP Boost trait?

Changed to 99BLU/1PUP, set the spell, checked job traits - not there.

Switched to several other subjobs that didn't natively get Max HP Boost, still no dice.

Any ideas?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-05 11:48:27  
Pretty sure it only gives HP Boost if you set another spell that gives HP boost.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-05 12:03:52  
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I'm very unfamiliar with gearswap and well... lua in general but I see lots of things about it that I'm interested in so I'd like to learn as much as possible so I can start translating my XML. These lists are resource files I'm guessing?

I'm building a BLU gearswap that auto-builds a set for each blue magic spell on load based on predefined criteria after looking at the sets you have defined yourself.

Basically it lets you do set["Name of Spell"] instead of if Foot Kick, then equip my STR/DEX blue magic, and when I cast Sudden Lunge, please equip my msgic acc / recast set, and I don't give a ***about the INT/MND mods on Bilgestorm, I just want the additional effects to stick without having to check a condition every time you cast it and without having to manually define a set for each spell.
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By Siren.Kenesu 2014-01-05 12:14:01  
Whats the best set for charged whisker/ thunderspark now?
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By Ophannus 2014-01-05 12:40:25  
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Anyone else notice that setting Glutinous Dart doesn't give the Max HP Boost trait?

Changed to 99BLU/1PUP, set the spell, checked job traits - not there.

Switched to several other subjobs that didn't natively get Max HP Boost, still no dice.

Any ideas?


Only 6point spells give traits by themselves.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-01-05 13:05:02  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »

I'm building a BLU gearswap that auto-builds a set for each blue magic spell on load based on predefined criteria after looking at the sets you have defined yourself.

Basically it lets you do set["Name of Spell"] instead of if Foot Kick, then equip my STR/DEX blue magic, and when I cast Sudden Lunge, please equip my msgic acc / recast set, and I don't give a ***about the INT/MND mods on Bilgestorm, I just want the additional effects to stick without having to check a condition every time you cast it and without having to manually define a set for each spell.

Cool. I'm looking forward to hopping on this and seeing what I can do with it.
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By Treizekordero 2014-01-05 13:17:48  
I keep hearing about gearswap. How is it compared to spellcast?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-05 13:26:39  
spellcast is a 1999 dodge neon and gearswap is a 2014 prius.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-05 13:44:46  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
spellcast is a 1999 dodge neon and gearswap is a 2014 prius.

The prius fails horribly at the one thing it's supposed to be: Green. I'm sure you can find a better representation of gearswap. ^^
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-01-05 14:31:15  
Tesla!
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By Ragnarok.Bardiel 2014-01-05 15:08:21  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Pretty sure it only gives HP Boost if you set another spell that gives HP boost.

Ophannus said: »
Only 6point spells give traits by themselves.

</slapface> d'oh! Thanks for the info. Wasn't paying attention. No really. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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By Treizekordero 2014-01-05 15:24:08  
Wow gearswap is that much better than spellcast lol.
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2014-01-05 16:00:12  
Well look at it this way Glutinous Dart gives +15 hp from setting it so like Max HP boost 0.5 :3
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-05 16:18:38  
Added Glutinous Dart's erroneous single spell trait add due to the glory of (probably drunken) copypasta from my at-the-time-outdated spell notes. It has now been addressed.


Is there really any benefit to Gearswap over Spellcast for someone who doesn't bother making rules beyond gearswaps and detecting active buffs to occasionally do automatic gearswaps? Have never been bothered to make immense scripts for things that I don't really care about the game doing for me, and learning a new language just to move over to a new plugin would require some actual reasoning.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-05 16:26:20  
Gearswap can recognize specific augments (e.g. distinguish MAB hagondes from Fast Cast hagondes), swap gear with menus open (even the equip screen), and can reliably use a precast set for virtually anything and still land you in the correct midcast set, even if like ... quick magic procs.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-05 16:27:22  
Don't make me have to go make a GearSwap lua, god damn it! Tell me it's ***or something!



afk 3 weeks while I figure this ***out
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By Hades.Triet 2014-01-05 16:32:33  
I'm in the same boat Mr.Prothescar. D: Except it'll take me about a year because I'll /ragequit learning it quite a bit.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-05 16:36:00  
I'm designing mine to be easily customized by the common man so you can just wait until I'm done with mine!

Here's a preview!

http://pastebin.com/wLkeJDY9
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-05 16:36:28  
*** all dat I ain't no lamprey!


(i'll prolly give up within the hour and become a lamprey)
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By Treizekordero 2014-01-05 16:51:10  
I managed to find information about gearswap that Brythnoth posted.
http://jp.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/41580/gearswap/1/

For anyone who's curious like me about gearswap and wanna know what are the advantages of gearswap over spellcast.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-01-05 16:51:25  
I like to do my own thing most of the time but while I'm learning I'll yoink that one once it's finished.

Just be sure you let us know when you update it!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-05 21:33:50  
Took a few hours, but as far as I tested this should be functional until Sylow posts his (probably vastly superior) lua.

You'll have to adjust all of the gear to match yours. Should be self explanatory.

Swaps in fast cast gear for precast as well as gear for all the important spells (and some unimportant ones), weaponskills, and swaps you into idle/tp sets accordingly. Also detects marches, embrava, etc. and puts you in the right TP set (if you bother setting up separate ones). You can also toggle between various attack, accuracy, and other sets with the following commands:

//gs c toggle TP set
//gs c toggle Idle set
//gs c toggle Req set
//gs c toggle CDC set

There's currently no actual PDT or MDT sets in here, the only DT sets are the idle DT and TP DT sets, mostly because I can't figure out how to make //gs equip commands work via in-game macros.

Added PDT + MDT sets. /console gs equip sets.Utility.PDT and /console gs equip sets.Utility.MDT for macros.

Now to make these for the rest of my jobs. ._.
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By Ophannus 2014-01-05 22:15:55  
Asimilator Shalwar's +12 base dmg during Burst Affinity, is that the same as "Magic Damage+12"? Wouldnt that make it terrible vs Hagondes?
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