The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 14:28:48  
body is pretty much replaced, legs as well except for during efflux on certain spells (benthic, QC, etc.); spells with poor fTP will benefit more from a better pair of pants
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-10-13 14:45:06  
I use Manibozho for STR and STR/VIT spells. Iuitl for STR/DEX and Benthic.
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 14:48:52  
Asura.Squishytaru said: »
EDIT: Just remembered that I still need it for magic barrier, occulation, etc ; ;

So many things to carry...

to be honest I don't think I'd even bother. the extra 15HP from barrier and possible 1 extra shadow on occultation aren't really that useful compared to inventory space
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-10-13 14:50:25  
Asura.Squishytaru said: »
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
I use Manibozho for STR and STR/VIT spells. Iuitl for STR/DEX and Benthic.

There is more vit on the Iuitl vest though. 19 compared to 16.
And more STR on Manibozho.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 15:21:42  
Going to look at adding in a CDC set soon since the hour of its return is nigh, however be advised, CDC will not be the end-all-be-all WS like it used to be. Requiescat is far superior (30% or so), so CDC will only be better to use when buffs are low, so mostly while solo/lowman against things with sturdyish defense (or against things which resist Requiescat, ofc).


k added. also adjusted requiescat set a bit
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-10-13 15:36:43  
I noticed that too when I was spreadsheeting it a while back- was quite surprised and thought I was perhaps doing something wrong.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-13 15:37:16  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Going to look at adding in a CDC set soon since the hour of its return is nigh, however be advised, CDC will not be the end-all-be-all WS like it used to be. Requiescat is far superior (30% or so), so CDC will only be better to use when buffs are low, so mostly while solo/lowman against things with sturdyish defense (or against things which resist Requiescat, ofc).


k added. also adjusted requiescat set a bit

Would aftermath even be worth it if you aren't starting a fight with 300 TP?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 15:38:24  
Depends on what 99++ Almace looks like. I doubt it won't be sufficient enough to make Almace/Buramenk'ah the best sword combo, but SE has been known to *** everything up in the past. Aftermath is a powerful thing, so it would swing the court over to CDC's favor provided the weapon that it's attached to is adequate.

AM1 is effectively a 30% increase to white damage if fulltimed, so say 25~28% to account for human error.
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 15:56:19  
with raid buffs you do not need the extra 25 attack
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 16:02:28  
If attack is uncapped then the attack is better, of course. However soon that won't be relevant since CDC would likely be better anyway unless you're really close to attack cap. Generally speaking, you'll be either grossly uncapped or capped more often than within the sweetspot of Requiescat being better than CDC while attack is uncapped.
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 16:09:40  
You will be able to unlock Chant du Cygne for use with any sword without needing an iLvl Almace
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-10-13 16:18:41  
Iirc it's coming in November
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By Ophannus 2013-10-14 02:06:41  
By the way, Magic Hammer is boss with Hagondes augmented with MAB. Seriously, when I'm fighting things that have MP pools, I don't need to set Auto-Refresh or Battery Charge with Magic Hammer damage like this. 550-600+ MP every ~90seconds or so is pretty sweet. If SE changed it to a Spirit Taker/Entropy kind of attack where it converts damage into MP instead of Aspiring it from only mobs with MP pools, it would save us set points for other tools.





I wouldn't go so far as making a dedicated set for it, this is a combination of random Sanguine Blade gear and generic cast gear. Basically maximizing MAB and MND.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-10-14 06:02:13  
Yeah its really boss now.
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By Sylph.Feary 2013-10-14 12:00:16  
i noticed some gear choices that i wasnt sure of in the guide.

benthic
athos boots > mani > Iuitl gaiters

nuking
penitents > wanion for int
penitents > cascade for mnd
however i guess penitents will save space.

idle
mavi body > hagondes coat

tp
windbuffet+ whirlpool/Uk'uxaj hat vs thurandaut chap twilight belt

and lastly for physicals
is that the best overall set or should we just split for strvit strdex etc?
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 14:22:24  
unless you're not carrying something better for whatever reason, it's always a good idea to tailor sets to each kind of spell.
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By itchi508 2013-10-14 22:16:04  
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Looking for some help on Req build, trying to get more out of it.
Currently am using this,
ItemSet 304144

Thinking i should swop to hagondes coat & boots?
(No DA augs my Iuitl, i believe Iuitl would win if so, says common sense)
Also Manibozo is tough call as well, unsure if the att acc will do anything since both not a issue in delve under the circumstance , lastly, is the Str or Dex from one to another going to improve dmg at all to be worth it? Example: mani boots Vs Hagondes boots or Iuitl vest Vs Hagondes coat?
Please post a ideal Req set or pick apart my set to improve, thanks!
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-10-14 22:25:21  
Yes on the Hagondes coat, but the first thing you need to switch is the belt (ele). If you have Thaumas boots, use those.
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By itchi508 2013-10-14 22:30:04  
O.o Thaumas still wins over iuitl & hagondes? Thought id never use those again :p
And as for Ele > windbuffet would the same go for brutal/mooshade > DA7?
edited the set for coat nails & belt.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 22:43:03  
itchi508 said: »
O.o Thaumas still wins over iuitl & hagondes? Thought id never use those again :p
And as for Ele > windbuffet would the same go for brutal/mooshade > DA7?
edited the set for coat nails & belt.

Moonshade/brutal unless you're attack capped or very close since the TPbonus is an attack boost that gets more potent up to attack cap. Req carries fTP across all hits, windbuffet doesn't really touch that. It's 6 hits with offhand, so QA is devalued a lot since the additional hits are truncated after 8 total.
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By itchi508 2013-10-14 22:55:25  
Awesome, thank you for help :)
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-10-15 13:04:26  
Is your Req build assuming capped accuracy and attack then?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-10-15 13:17:33  
ItemSet 295380

This is what I personally use for Requiescat, preferring the 9 STR on legs over the 2 MND and the accuracy and attack bonuses from Manzibozho Body Rank 15 over the 23 MND from Hagondes sets, a 7 MND bonus over 32 attack and 27 accuracy and 4 STR bonus.

My personal preference, but as BLU is mainly used for Bee / Shark I felt accuracy and attack would be more important factors if not doing COR swaps for Hunters roll etc.
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By itchi508 2013-10-15 13:33:43  
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
ItemSet 295380

This is what I personally use for Requiescat, preferring the 9 STR on legs over the 2 MND and the accuracy and attack bonuses from Manzibozho Body Rank 15 over the 23 MND from Hagondes sets, a 7 MND bonus over 32 attack and 27 accuracy and 4 STR bonus.

My personal preference, but as BLU is mainly used for Bee / Shark I felt accuracy and attack would be more important factors if not doing COR swaps for Hunters roll etc.
Usualy or "assuming cap" but there is times where all buffs would not be active of course. In which i would swop out accordingly Mani boots, jerkin, brais,& letalis, if acc was lacking.
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