The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage |
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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
Ramuh.Laffter said: » I do 2.2k average outside abyssea with my cheap Requiescat set. Can probably do better. 2.2k average??! I don't get that average on CDC (2kish average 90 Almace). 1k average, spikes of 1.5ish on Requi. Talking about dc dyna mobs at least here. Ragnarok.Galiber said: » Ramuh.Laffter said: » I do 2.2k average outside abyssea with my cheap Requiescat set. Can probably do better. 2.2k average??! I don't get that average on CDC (2kish average 90 Almace). 1k average, spikes of 1.5ish on Requi. Talking about dc dyna mobs at least here. Haven't tried on dyna mobs, I'll wander in and see how I do later. Make sure you're adding attack into your Requiescat set along with the MND mod and use gorget/belt since the ftp transfers to all hits. 99 Tizona Requiescat vs. 99 Almace Chant du Cygne
Using ideal sets for each weaponskill. Target: Lv110, 500DEF, 115VIT Buffs: Minuet V + 11 Chaos Roll w/ DRK in the party + Berserk + RCB Tizona Requiescat 66D Main/61D Sub 119 STR 141 MND 1278 Attack 50/256 TP bonus 25 TA 56 DA 125 TP Min: 1189 Avg: 2149 Max: 2933 Almace Chant du Cygne 70D Main/61D Sub 138 STR 159 DEX 1328 Attack 11 TA 27 DA +25% Crit rate 125 TP Min: 810 Avg: 1781 Max: 4253 Things to note: *I'm not 100% certain on how Mythic OA2-3 works on weaponskills, if it's added as faux-DA/TA or if it's calculated separately. *These calculations are overvaluing TA on Requiescat by a small amount. A difference of about 20~30 average damage or so. *Gap closes immensely and the Tizona pulls ahead by a decent amount vs. a 90 Almace, however if you have the funds to make a 99 Tizona, I'd assume you can also make a 99 Almace. With only self buffs: Requiescat attack: 911 Min: 818 Avg: 1539 Max: 2053 Chant du Cygne attack: 948 Min: 810 Avg: 1680 Max: 4097 w/ Triumphant Roar: Requiescat attack: 1002 Min: 1022 Avg: 1720 Max: 2334 Chant du Cygne attack: 1043 Min: 810 Avg: 1781 Max: 4253 This is just the weaponskills, too. Ignoring the difference between the increased TP speed/DoT of Mythic OA2-3 vs. Almace ODD as well as having to use Expiacion once every 3 minutes to maintain OA2-3.
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How does Portus collar compare to rancor for TP?
Using that now over Nefarious when I don't wanna use rancor, but idk if it's worth using rancor at all? Don't take my word for it 100%, but I vaguely recall asking Pro a similar question in a PM before and I think the response was Rancor would pull ahead still.
Never knew a thread like this exsisted for BLU but amazing! Nice to see a gear thread that does not derail into petty bickering.
Read it all and just wished something like this exsisted for SAM or WHM. Helped me understand BLU as a job much better when I was bored and it was raining in sunny sunny Wales... Atheling + Portus should be better at this point.
Ok if it should be better, I'll go with that as "it'll be very close if not" and drop rancor in tp completely :P
That's what I would do if I could be arsed to go kill Diabolos enough times to get one. :c
Got stupidly lucky, first time we did as a ls, get.
<_> T. Roar stacks with zerk? I know it doesn't with stalwarts so I keep forgetting to test
Yes. Berserk is its own effect, Triumphant Roar is simply an attack boost effect like temp items.
Warcry stacks with both as well as it's also its own effect. I use Portus in tp, but I find that on tougher mobs, like Kalasutrax, Ig-Alima or Provenance, where BLU is ALWAYS stuck in the mage party, I'm hitting for 0 most of the times and only get real damage with crits, so I was thinking of switching back to Rancor or making a hybrid accuracy crit rate set for that stuff.
And yeah, Berserk, Warcry and Triumphant Roar all stack. Stalwarts doesn't stack with Triumphant, so I don't bother setting it in VW. If you'r in the mage party on stuff you hit 0 alot on, it's probably better to just sit back and be a lolmage :p
Cerberus.Kvazz said: » If you'r in the mage party on stuff you hit 0 alot on, it's probably better to just sit back and be a lolmage :p NEVER! Since I'm still pulling out a decent number of crits and with all the regain and wings you do a pretty decent damage overall. Question regarding A.Spikes...
Seems pretty straight forward but do most BLUs have a separate Physical set (DEX based) to swap into when casting spells that are DEX based or is it considered not really worth it? If its a minimal dmg increase by stacking DEX instead of STR then I won't bother, but I was thinking something like this for A.Spikes: This is based on what I currently have and not what I think is ideal :P So.... O.Headpiece or Mirage +2? Or something else? Magus Jubbah +1 or Loki's/Toci's/Whatever DEX+alot Body Better option for Hands that are relatively simple to obtain? DEX Earrings obviously Ragnarok.Galiber said: » Cerberus.Kvazz said: » If you'r in the mage party on stuff you hit 0 alot on, it's probably better to just sit back and be a lolmage :p NEVER! Since I'm still pulling out a decent number of crits and with all the regain and wings you do a pretty decent damage overall. Pretty much the above. You may not thinking and you sure as hell would not like to believe but it's possible to beat a few bad Soulvoiced/ Cor roll ally dd with just embrava and maximizing your accuracy. Most people tend to pull 68~75% or so m. acc without some sort of acc buffer. To answer your question Krylon generally most people use a pure str set to be variable and not use dex specific gear because of invo constraints, nothing wrong with having extra specific spell gear if that's what you wish. Athos hands would probrably be the best solid and easier to get upgrade, relatively simple is the fight but not fighting the log rate. Myrmex mittens probrably fall into that category as well and ultimately khepri hands for the best. Jubbah +1 still beats most things, I still use Iratham's headpiece since I don't have Mirage +2 head pipilika belt then use a wanion belt when you get it. Amorphic is strong and for scin'g wtih CDC, not sure if using quad(without Almace) is better counting potential sc damage and the ws used(usually a weak one like savage or expiacion). They're both pretty close don't get me wrong Amorhpic just can be flimsy oppossed to quad but that's blue spells overall. New BLU gear for today's update. Possible good pieces bolded.
(Source: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/111230-6-13-12-Update-.DAT-Mining-Findings) Weapons Heimdall's Doom (Sword) DMG:60 Delay:236 HP+5% MND+10 CHR+10 Additional effect: "Death" WAR, DRK, BLU *For fun Head Enif Zucchetto DEF:49 HP+35 MP+35 Accuracy+7 Attack+7 Magic Accuracy+7 Haste+5% Adhara Turban "Magic Attack Bonus"+7 Enmity-6 Haste+3% Spell interruption rate down 20% *Possibly for nukes, this would work well in place of teal and the like but not the beret. Shedir Turban DEF:38 Magic Accuracy+4 Singing skill +4 Haste+5% Song recast delay -3 Body Enif Corazza DEF:75 HP+45 MP+45 Accuracy+23 "Quadruple Attack"+2% Haste+3% *If you don't have access to NN gear and need the accuracy, Toci+oce(+1) is still a superior combination than this+whatever. Adhara Manteel DEF:63 Magic Accuracy+5 Healing magic skill +13 Dark magic skill +13 Blue magic skill +13 Haste+4% *Pretty clutch for stoneskins/magic barrier/occultation/debuffs. Shedir Manteel DEF:63 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Magic Accuracy+5 "Magic Attack Bonus"+5 Haste+4% Potency of "Cure" effects received +3% Hands Enif Manopolas DEF:30 HP+33 MP+33 Accuracy+5 Attack+5 Enmity+7 Haste+4% *If you don't have access to NN gear or Nomkhapha mitts. Adhara Gages DEF:28 Magic Accuracy+6 "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-5 Avatar perpetuation cost -2 Haste+2% Shedir Gages DEF:28 Sword skill +10 Club skill +10 Staff skill +10 Divine magic skill +10 Healing magic skill +10 Enfeebling magic skill +10 Legs Enif Cosciales DEF:49 HP+40 MP+40 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect Haste+5% *New fast cast legs. Adhara Seraweels DEF:40 Magic Accuracy+4 Divine magic skill +11 Healing magic skill +11 Enfeebling magic skill +11 Enmity-3 Haste+3% Shedir Seraweels DEF:40 Enhancing magic skill +15 Elemental resistance spells +15 Enhances "Stoneskin" effect Enhances "Aquaveil" effect */RDM Feet Enif Gambieras DEF:29 HP+48 MP+48 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 Ranged Accuracy+6 Haste+4% Wyvern: HP+80 *If you don't have Athos or NN gear. Adhara Crackows DEF:27 Magic Accuracy+3 Enhancing magic skill +8 Elemental magic skill +8 Summoning magic skill +8 "Conserve MP"+4 Haste+3% Shedir Crackows DEF:29 "Blood Boon"+3 Avatar: Enhances magic accuracy Enhances "Magic Attack Bonus" Increases "Blood Pact" damage
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: » Question regarding A.Spikes... Seems pretty straight forward but do most BLUs have a separate Physical set (DEX based) to swap into when casting spells that are DEX based or is it considered not really worth it? STR/DEX set is fine. The DEX/INT modifiers on it are too low to really consider making a full-on set for it, as your inventory would be better spent elsewhere. Quote: O.Headpiece or Mirage +2? Or something else? Mirage +2 or Aias. Quote: Magus Jubbah +1 or Loki's/Toci's/Whatever DEX+alot Body Magus +1 Quote: Better option for Hands that are relatively simple to obtain? Enkidu mittens, Myrmex mittens, Athos gloves, Kheper Wristbands Oh look, now I can wear a Hofud with my Hofud.
8% HP for breaths!
But yeah. Sadly even with this meager spread of sidegrades, BLU is one of the better off jobs with this new gear... was hoping they'd make it worthwhile. The payment lapse continues. Color me unimpressed and longing for more than just identical gear with slightly higher values :\ Was hoping for a bigger revamp from previous incarnations like with NN.
Most notable thing in this update is probably SE making Voidwatch less painful, which is pretty sad to be honest. Tickets can suck a *** but hey, at least pickup VW won't be quite so painful now.
The lack of content in this update is going to be problematic for SE from a subscription standpoint. They're going to be on a rather nasty downhill slide til Vanafest and I honestly doubt they have anything in store for us that can properly turn that around.
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Picking out the miscellaneous stuff that's semi-notable:
Sortiarius Earring Rare "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-2 Dux Visor +1 DEF:41 STR+6 Attack+14 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+4 Chelona Hat +1 DEF:33 MP+45 STR-8 DEX-8 VIT-8 AGI-8 INT+8 MND+8 CHR+8 "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-6 Dux Sc.Mail +1 DEF:69 STR+10 VIT+10 Attack+16 Physical damage taken -5% Enmity+7 Chelona Blazer +1 DEF:58 MP+55 STR-12 DEX-12 VIT-12 AGI-12 INT+12 MND+12 CHR+12 "Cure" potency +6% MP recovered while healing +9 Dux Cuisses +1 DEF:56 STR+8 Attack+12 Physical damage taken -5% Enmity+6 Dux Greaves +1 DEF:31 VIT+6 Accuracy+10 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+5 Chelona Boots +1 DEF:24 MP+40 STR-7 DEX-7 VIT-7 AGI-7 INT+7 MND+7 CHR+7 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect MP recovered while healing +6 Dux: WAR, RDM, PLD, DRK, BST, RNG, SAM, DRG, BLU Chelona: WHM, BLM, RDM, BRD, SMN, BLU, PUP, SCH Credit again goes to Jinjo. More stuff:
(Source: The thread from the other post and http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/June_2012_Version_Update_Changes) Head Chelona Hat DEF:32 MP+40 STR-7 DEX-7 VIT-7 AGI-7 INT+7 MND+7 CHR+7 "Magic Attack Bonus"+5 Enmity-5 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Chelona Hat +1 DEF:33 MP+45 STR-8 DEX-8 VIT-8 AGI-8 INT+8 MND+8 CHR+8 "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-6 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH *Both for nukes. Dux Visor DEF:40 STR+5 Attack+13 Physical damage taken -3% Enmity+3 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU Dux Visor +1 DEF:41 STR+6 Attack+14 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+4 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU *Both for PDT. Body Moogle Suit Cannot Equip Hand, Leg, or Footgear DEF:1 Dispense: Mog Missile All *LOL WTF IS THIS *** Chelona Blazer DEF:57 MP+50 STR-11 DEX-11 VIT-11 AGI-11 INT+11 MND+11 CHR+11 "Cure" potency +5% MP recovered while healing +8 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Chelona Blazer +1 DEF:58 MP+55 STR-12 DEX-12 VIT-12 AGI-12 INT+12 MND+12 CHR+12 "Cure" potency +6% MP recovered while healing +9 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH *Both for cures. Dux Scale Mail DEF:68 STR+9 VIT+9 Attack+15 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+6 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU Dux Scale Mail +1 DEF:69 STR+10 VIT+10 Attack+16 Physical damage taken -5% Enmity+7 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU *Both for PDT. Hands Chelona Gloves DEF:26 MP+30 STR-5 DEX-5 VIT-5 AGI-5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5 Magic Accuracy+7 Enmity-3 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Chelona Gloves +1 DEF:27 MP+35 STR-6 DEX-6 VIT-6 AGI-6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6 Magic Accuracy+8 Enmity-4 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Dux Finger Gauntlets DEF:32 VIT+4 Accuracy+10 Physical damage taken -2% Enmity+4 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU Dux Finger Gauntlets +1 DEF:33 VIT+5 Accuracy+11 Physical damage taken -3% Enmity+5 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU *HQ for PDT. Legs Chelona Trousers DEF:46 MP+40 STR-8 DEX-8 VIT-8 AGI-8 INT+8 MND+8 CHR+8 Enmity-5 Bonus damage added to magic burst WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Chelona Trousers +1 DEF:47 MP+45 STR-9 DEX-9 VIT-9 AGI-9 INT+9 MND+9 CHR+9 Enmity-6 Bonus damage added to magic burst WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Dux Cuisses DEF:55 STR+7 Attack+11 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+5 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU Dux Cuisses +1 DEF:56 STR+8 Attack+12 Physical damage taken -5% Enmity+6 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU *Both for PDT. Feet Chelona Boots DEF:23 MP+35 STR-6 DEX-6 VIT-6 AGI-6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect MP recovered while healing +5 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Chelona Boots +1 DEF:24 MP+40 STR-7 DEX-7 VIT-7 AGI-7 INT+7 MND+7 CHR+7 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect MP recovered while healing +6 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH *Fast cast and hMP. Dux Greaves DEF:30 VIT+5 Accuracy+9 Physical damage taken -3% Enmity+4 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU Dux Greaves +1 DEF:31 VIT+6 Accuracy+10 Physical damage taken -4% Enmity+5 WAR / RDM / PLD / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM / DRG / BLU *Both for PDT. Accessories Eihwaz Ring HP+70 Enmity+5 Enhances resistance against "Death" All Dagaz Ring Attack+10 Ranged Attack+10 Enmity-1 All Sortiarius Earring "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-2 All *Replaces Moldavite earring, possibly Strophadic, didn't do the maffs. Prodigious Mantle DEF:20 HP+80 MP+20 VIT+4 Enhances "Resist Petrify" effect All Algidus Cape DEF:7 INT+6 Element: Ice+10 Enmity-6 Enhances "Resist Paralyze" effect WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN / BLU / PUP / SCH Body
Moogle Suit Cannot Equip Hand, Leg, or Footgear DEF:1 Dispense: Mog Missile All Yes. Finally, I can toss out all my old Darksteel+1 gear! /Meh
More:
(Source: Same as last post) Weapons Ark Saber (Sword) DMG:1 Delay:999 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Ark Sword (Sword) DMG:1 Delay:999 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Killer's Kilij (Sword) DMG:56 Delay:236 MP+30 DEX+2 VIT+2 Enhances "Killer" effects BLU Eradicator's Kilij (Sword) DMG:57 Delay:229 MP+35 DEX+3 VIT+3 Enhances "Killer" effects BLU *Good stopgap weapons while working on trial swords. Ark Tabar (Axe) DMG:1 Delay:999 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Ark Scythe (Scythe) DMG:1 Delay:999 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Ark Tachi (Great Katana) DMG:1 Delay:999 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Gobbie Gavel (Club) DEF:1 Delay:288 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All Shell Scepter (Club) DEF:1 Delay:288 Enchantment: Costume <1/1 0:30/[1:00:00, 0:30]> All |
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