The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-12 18:21:28  
Sorry if I didn't say before, but when I said "BLU solo Omen farming" I of course meant going for the Ou path, so no bosses at all, just 3 floors of trash to slaugher with AoE spells and occasional black halos in the trascended monsters' faces.
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By SimonSes 2021-03-12 18:28:02  
You barely need to switch any spells. Maybe 3-4 max and only if you want to be fully optimized for boss.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2021-03-12 19:57:10  
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Im doing 12-13 min now on THF.

While I'm not calling you a liar, I'd like to see a video before I believe that.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-12 21:09:39  
It's believable. THF gets Su5 path C Evasion > TP conversion +50, along with evasion+100. With capped evasion set, you will get full tp from swings/evades very fast, and you can Aeolian Edge spam (while basically never getting hit). They die in 1-2 WS with a good set. That's easily doable in 15 minutes if you are good. What Simon is probably referring to about "Taking risks" is pulling like 4+ groups at once, and ae them all down. Which can go badly without perfect dodge (I have tried this a few times).

Idk if simon bring a mule geo in or whatever, but if he gets malaise or whatever, even better. TH+8 on every monster also, its the optimal way to do Omen if you have that dagger, and even if you don't.
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By SimonSes 2021-03-13 04:00:18  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
It's believable. THF gets Su5 path C Evasion > TP conversion +50, along with evasion+100. With capped evasion set, you will get full tp from swings/evades very fast, and you can Aeolian Edge spam (while basically never getting hit). They die in 1-2 WS with a good set. That's easily doable in 15 minutes if you are good. What Simon is probably referring to about "Taking risks" is pulling like 4+ groups at once, and ae them all down. Which can go badly without perfect dodge (I have tried this a few times).

Idk if simon bring a mule geo in or whatever, but if he gets malaise or whatever, even better. TH+8 on every monster also, its the optimal way to do Omen if you have that dagger, and even if you don't.

It was ~17min before Nyame, now its ~13 (depends slightly if its day or night and ladybugs are willing to aggro XD). Before it was risky to pull 3 groups, now its risky to pull like 5+, 3 groups are easy now. I also dont bother waiting to KoH to phalanx me now, I do it myself /rdm, so that also cuts some time. I might do some video with THF and BLU in near future. Out of canteens now tho. Maybe tomorrow.
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-03-13 10:38:17  
hmmmm i might need to give that thf method a try, assuming th8 gets decently more drops than th4
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By Nariont 2021-03-13 11:57:22  
Its pretty noticeable in my experience vs the th+4 i had on other runs i did getting cards
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By Endlesscc 2021-03-14 11:02:52  
Hi all

Will Saifil belt+1 full Aug better than WIndbuffet Belt for Almace Blu TP set?
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By Tathamet 2021-03-15 18:48:44  
Stumbled across this and got a dumb question: https://www.ffxiah.com//node/415

I would want to use the "BLU - Add. Effect" set for things like Sudden Lunge for its added effect of stun, and the "BLU - Magic Acc" for something like Dream Flower (cuz it has no added effect derp).

Right? :p
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By Asura.Chendar 2021-03-15 19:19:53  
Correct. Add. effect set is used for physical spells with debuffs attached to them and stacks both acc, for the physical spell to land, and macc for the debuff to land.
Anything that is a magic spell to begin with you just stack macc.

The Add. effect set in that node seems a bit outdated or something though, cause malignance has more of both acc and macc than Jhakri.
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By SimonSes 2021-03-17 13:01:55  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
SimonSes said: »
Im doing 12-13 min now on THF.

While I'm not calling you a liar, I'd like to see a video before I believe that.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36654/for-the-shinies-a-guide-for-thief/239/#3571490

13min and few seconds, but it was night time and ladybugs werent aggroing :P
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By Sylph.Oraen 2021-03-18 06:03:37  
Sylph.Oraen said: »
2020-08-09

I'll do my best to get everything current as soon as I'm able.

Cheers.

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Well, the best time to update the OP was seven months ago; the second best time is now. Without going into too much detail on the delays, sometimes life's a *** and then you keep living.

I've been refreshing some of the item sets with items I know will be definitive improvements, but I could certainly use some updated tools to crunch numbers on less clear-cut situations. I've lost all of my old tools, so if Austar or Simon, preferably both, could share their current sheets/simulations, it would be greatly appreciated.

If all goes well, I'd like to have the guide up-to-date by the end of this week. Thank you to everyone for the continued patience.
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By drakefs 2021-03-18 07:13:24  
Would suggest adding an Evasion Set, as they kind of break Odyssey and Omen farming.

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Malignance is interchangeable with Nyame and I would drop the Beeline Ring for the Defending ring (which brings you to 48% DT)

Rosmerta's Cape Augmented AGI +20, EVA +45.
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By SimonSes 2021-03-18 07:53:33  
Sylph.Oraen said: »
I've lost all of my old tools, so if Austar or Simon, preferably both, could share their current sheets/simulations, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cleaning it now, adding stuff and rewriting formulas. It will take few days, since I have wife aggro all the time those days.

drakefs said: »
Malignance is interchangeable with Nyame

Nyame has higher 7% higher DT, Malignance has ~21 higher evasion.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-18 10:54:53  
Nyame also has less haste, but more hp
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-03-18 12:22:36  
Sylph.Oraen said: »
so if Austar or Simon, preferably both, could share their current sheets/simulations, it would be greatly appreciated.
mine don't have a GUI so unless you want to learn some Python 3 or wait awhile for me to make one, it won't be very useful
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By Asura.Ceetwo 2021-03-18 17:08:11  
I haven't played seriously since probably around 2015, I am flipping through page after page looking for updated spreadsheets for gear. Is there some place that all the BLUs know about that I cannot find? TYIA
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By Sylph.Oraen 2021-03-18 18:06:46  
SimonSes said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
I've lost all of my old tools, so if Austar or Simon, preferably both, could share their current sheets/simulations, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cleaning it now, adding stuff and rewriting formulas. It will take few days, since I have wife aggro all the time those days.

Appreciate that, thanks.

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Sylph.Oraen said: »
so if Austar or Simon, preferably both, could share their current sheets/simulations, it would be greatly appreciated.
mine don't have a GUI so unless you want to learn some Python 3 or wait awhile for me to make one, it won't be very useful

Learning things is outside of my wheelhouse these days, unfortunately. Please don't put yourself out by making adjustments to your personal tool for my benefit. I will rely on Simon's sheet for the time being in order to get the sets on the front page updated. If you're willing, I would greatly appreciate your feedback and critique on the changes.

I know that the two of you have encountered large differences in numbers, so hopefully we can all collaborate and nail down proper sets.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-03-19 01:37:22  
Sylph.Oraen said: »
Learning things is outside of my wheelhouse these days, unfortunately. Please don't put yourself out by making adjustments to your personal tool for my benefit. I will rely on Simon's sheet for the time being in order to get the sets on the front page updated.
It wouldn't be a lot anyways, just some manual variable changes instead of using a combobox. I've just been working on getting two DD working simultaneously mostly for the goal of finding setups to increase a groups' DPS instead of an individuals through either spamming or up to four step skillchains, so making a GUI before that's done wouldn't make much sense. But making one for an individual job wouldn't be that big of a deal.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2021-03-19 17:20:38  
If that's something that you're able to accomplish without eating too much time from your other projects, then I would be extremely grateful for the help. I used your DRG and SAM simulations a while back, and having something similar for BLU would drastically ease number crunching.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-03-21 11:02:48  
It's more of a motivation thing really, now that I am just waiting on MH:Rise, nothing better to do.
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By Asura.Aller 2021-03-22 20:11:11  
does AzureSets lag anyone else badly in Omen - can't even switch spellsets with it in this zone
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By Shichishito 2021-03-22 20:16:59  
Asura.Aller said: »
does AzureSets lag anyone else badly in Omen - can't even switch spellsets with it in this zone
it lags everywhere but particularly hard in most instanced content.
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By Asura.Aller 2021-03-22 20:28:11  
I learned my lesson, cannot try to swap spellsets and start killing, really screwed me up. Probably have to wait until its switched fully
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By Draylo 2021-03-22 21:28:29  
It used to not lag at all :( but no idea who worked on it
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By Ragnarok.Lowen 2021-03-22 21:35:29  
I haven't had issues swapping in Omen, but it's been brutal every time I use Azuresets in dynamis d. Basically an R0 until it's done setting. Nothing updates.
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By fillerbunny9 2021-03-22 21:36:43  
I have not tried in Omen, but I have seen surprisingly faster swaps with AzureSets since they fixed Odyssey Gaol. it is entirely possible it is just coincidental as I have not been dusting off BLU as much lately aside from taking it to segment farm.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-25 15:17:28  
Is there an updated list with the monsters immune to Cruel Joke in Sheol A, B and C?

I know it's different for each zone, like Tigers are not immune in B, but they are immune in C, etc.

Also what's an Eva build for BLU?
I assume 5/5 Malignance, Bathy Choker R15, Eabani Earring, Infused Earring, Dring, Vengeful or Ilabrat Ring, Ambu Cape with Agi+20, Eva+30, PDT-10, Sveltesse Gouriz +1.

Did I miss anything?
Any food suggested?
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