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 Valefor.Sapphire
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-02-05 07:27:19  
So is Caudata Belt worth picking up over a Penitent's Rope for sanguine blade?

Kinda also want it for a delta thrust piece since I dont have a wanion belt.

Caudata belt has 1 more str and 1 more int vs Penitent's but you lose 5 MND for sanguine however.
I'm second guessing if its a sidegrade or up/downgrade for that case due to the 'Weapon Skill accuracy +10' + 15 atk, wondering if that helps with potency/resist. dINT is said to be a big deal for sanguine so not sure if 1 more int makes up some for having less MND.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-02-05 07:48:13  
Since its a magic ws the acc and att shouldnt effect it at all i would think aswang belt would better if you dont have wanion.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-02-08 17:09:18  
So just got Tessera Saio now im wondering on CDC body i should use ive got three options, Tessera Saio, Athos's Tabard and Kheper Jacket.

This is what im using atm plus one of the three bodies.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-08 17:13:50  
Tessera, Kheper if accuracy is poor enough that you're getting significant benefit from the accuracy. Athos is pretty bad, maybe if you use athos gloves+legs, but probably not. Ideally, aim for a toci's harness.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-02-08 17:26:23  
Yeah thats what i was thinking i wish i had a toci's done around 500+ pils still nada. ; ;
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By Seraph.Jacaut 2013-02-09 18:45:36  
been working on my blu a bit and was wanting any feedback on my tp set excluding hexed-1/NNI. I havent had any luck on toci's and id use athos on feet once i got it. If yall see any quick/easy improvements for me let me know ^^.

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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-02-09 18:56:19  
If you have any Homam gear I'd throw the feet and hands into that set.

Other that that it's pretty good for non NNI gear.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-02-09 18:59:52  
Valefor.Sapphire said: »
So is Caudata Belt worth picking up over a Penitent's Rope for sanguine blade?

Kinda also want it for a delta thrust piece since I dont have a wanion belt.

Caudata belt has 1 more str and 1 more int vs Penitent's but you lose 5 MND for sanguine however.
I'm second guessing if its a sidegrade or up/downgrade for that case due to the 'Weapon Skill accuracy +10' + 15 atk, wondering if that helps with potency/resist. dINT is said to be a big deal for sanguine so not sure if 1 more int makes up some for having less MND.

I picked one up mainly for Exenterator and tried to find a spot for it. New best STRVIT belt afaik, so has some uses. Quad. Con., Cannonball for those Nostalgia times when you wanna use it and w/e other spells come to mind.
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-02-09 19:10:03  
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
If you have any Homam gear I'd throw the feet and hands into that set.

Other that that it's pretty good for non NNI gear.
If Mintan +2 is the only TP body he has access to at the moment, I'm not sure how(old) Homam Hands/Feet would be an improvement over what he has now.

10 Accuracy and 2% haste(Manoplas/Gambieras) over
12 Str, 6 Dex, 2% Crit rate, and 9 Attack(Miodio/Kacura)
Seems like a bad trade to me, but I am honestly horrible at math in this game(and everywhere else).
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-02-09 19:13:50  
Valefor.Sapphire said: »
So is Caudata Belt worth picking up over a Penitent's Rope for sanguine blade?

Kinda also want it for a delta thrust piece since I dont have a wanion belt.

Caudata belt has 1 more str and 1 more int vs Penitent's but you lose 5 MND for sanguine however.
I'm second guessing if its a sidegrade or up/downgrade for that case due to the 'Weapon Skill accuracy +10' + 15 atk, wondering if that helps with potency/resist. dINT is said to be a big deal for sanguine so not sure if 1 more int makes up some for having less MND.
STR has the same potency as MND for Sanguine Blade's modifiers so Caudata is a better choice than Penitent's.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-09 19:15:58  
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Valefor.Sapphire said: »
So is Caudata Belt worth picking up over a Penitent's Rope for sanguine blade?

Kinda also want it for a delta thrust piece since I dont have a wanion belt.

Caudata belt has 1 more str and 1 more int vs Penitent's but you lose 5 MND for sanguine however.
I'm second guessing if its a sidegrade or up/downgrade for that case due to the 'Weapon Skill accuracy +10' + 15 atk, wondering if that helps with potency/resist. dINT is said to be a big deal for sanguine so not sure if 1 more int makes up some for having less MND.
STR has the same potency as MND for Sanguine Blade's modifiers so Caudata is a better choice than Penitent's.
MND is 50% and STR is 30%. Penitent's also has INT comparable to Caudata. The difference between all 3 isn't that big regardless, I would use Wanion though just for inventory reasons.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-02-09 19:42:42  
Oops. Guess I should check the ws page before I go spreading misinformation. <__<

I use Caudata since it gets used for tons of other stuff and I don't have Wanion yet.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-09 19:54:32  
Speaking on Sanguine Blade, though, Proth needs to update the set in the guide.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-09 20:00:24  
set's been updated but I never refreshed the post, still needs a couple adjustments on some slots and I never looked at the head properly. other sets like nukes need to be adjusted but i dont have the time to go through and do math/look at gear for a little while.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-09 20:12:21  
Morrigan's +1 should be best hat as far as I'm aware, which also serves for Requiescat too. Pretty sure augmented khepri are better than mavi hands, though.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-09 20:14:55  
should be
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By Seraph.Jacaut 2013-02-09 20:17:14  
Cerberus.Diabolique said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
If you have any Homam gear I'd throw the feet and hands into that set.

Other that that it's pretty good for non NNI gear.
If Mintan +2 is the only TP body he has access to at the moment, I'm not sure how(old) Homam Hands/Feet would be an improvement over what he has now.

10 Accuracy and 2% haste(Manoplas/Gambieras) over
12 Str, 6 Dex, 2% Crit rate, and 9 Attack(Miodio/Kacura)
Seems like a bad trade to me, but I am honestly horrible at math in this game(and everywhere else).

Yeah i was rocking dat relic body till a few days ago when i got more serious about blu. on megalo now for almace. I'll look into homam for acc issues though. But on the haste thing, i know its 2 more haste, but my current haste is 25% so its only a .xxx(i forget what) increase actually right?
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-02-09 21:20:28  
Oh I was actually saying your current set would be better than switching in Homam Hands/Feet over Miodio/Kacura+1. That 1% haste(all you're really getting) doesn't seem worth the loss of the stats you have now.
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By Seraph.Jacaut 2013-02-10 15:34:40  
Cerberus.Diabolique said: »
Oh I was actually saying your current set would be better than switching in Homam Hands/Feet over Miodio/Kacura+1. That 1% haste(all you're really getting) doesn't seem worth the loss of the stats you have now.
oh yeah i got that, i suck at expressing what im trying to say, just ment id check my acc and see how it is, if its low id look into homam ^^. mostly just doing salvage and neosalvage atm with a friend or 2
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By Gimp 2013-02-10 15:41:48  
I have an inkling for mid content you do that you'll benefit from mantis eye more (most of VW and what food/atmacites you're using) but smart grenade is great once you cap your acc.

and whenever you can get them athos's legs will last you until you get NNI gear
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2013-02-12 08:28:18  
I noticed you had Icesoul in your sanguine set alternatives section.

I've been avoiding them in favor of Aquasoul+Spiral due to -3 STR on the Icesouls.

Is Icesoul x2 really better?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-02-12 08:29:05  
2x augmented diamond rings~
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-02-12 12:05:32  
Spiral Ring is probably the most efficient ring for Sanguine Blade, as it should be getting macroed in for Delta Thrust and the like. The second ring should be an augmented diamond ring though.
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By Seraph.Busterwolf 2013-02-15 09:22:55  
Thinking of putting together a Hybrid-PDT set (which I don't know will be useful or not), this is what I came up with:

Oce+1/Twilight/PDT earringsx2
Thaumas/Thaumas/PDT ringsx2
Mollusca Mantle/Twilight/Thaumas/Dux+1

Anything I missed out?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-15 09:48:34  
D ring.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-02-15 10:26:46  
A hybrid-evasion set would serve you better because the only event jobs really need a hybrid-pdt set in, BLU doesn't get invited to (Legion).
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-15 10:39:16  
It could after the adjustments in the future! But yeah, as it is now even wanting to, light jobs have it hard trying to make hybrid sets without offhanding a pdt weapon.
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By Lilwizzer 2013-02-15 20:27:38  
So I got a quick question:

In the original post Prothescar has staves and such in for some of his gear sets but he does not have them in his XML. Is this on purpose?

Also, he has a physical magic and magical set on the guide but none on the XML. Am I missing something? I am pretty new to this spellcast stuff.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-15 20:31:14  
Staves: I do them manually to avoid any potential TP issues.

Physical and Magical: My spellcast breaks them into further sets based on the spell being used, STRDEX, STRVIT, INTMND, DEXINT, etc., I have to put an updated version up at some point to reflect revisions.
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