The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-01 16:52:35  
double haste spells don't concern me as much as the spells that have never been useful before; i.e., Mortal Ray and Blazing Bound.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2014-12-01 16:56:08  
I'm honestly not even sure if mortal ray has ever landed on anything for me. But I used blazing bound a few times to pull mobs before dart came out, so it's obviously worth it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-01 17:32:57  
Sylph.Oraen said: »
I'm honestly not even sure if mortal ray has ever landed on anything for me. But I used blazing bound a few times to pull mobs before dart came out, so it's obviously worth it.

It lands on fodder pretty easily, but it has a ridiculous casting time and MP cost... and it's like a 60 count doom, so you could let Joachim kill the mob with pebbles before the doom would. It's utterly useless.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Harmless 2014-12-01 18:16:00  
Hi guys, I'm just starting to get back into BLU after a 1-2 year break from the job and have found this thread very useful. I had a question pertaining to spell sets. I am currently using AzureSets addon and have made profiles based on the few sets listed int he OP, was wondering if anyone could share some spell sets beyond those listed in the OP. I'd like to be able to use Sinker Drill along with a few other spells but until I cap out job points I find myself running short on set points while keeping the DD spec spells set. Thanks!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2014-12-02 08:57:09  
I can send you mine Harmless. I'm only at 6/10 on the Blue Points JP's. But it's pretty easy to setup. Unfortunately I'm not at my home computer to paste it or send it to you atm.

I just have sets for:
DD
Salvage (Treasure Hunter)
Nuking (Subduction farming)
(And the standard proc spell sets that I never use)
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-03 03:57:20  
Matsui's post about the upcoming update clarifies the weaponskill changes:

"- Adjustments so that certain weapon skills that had bonuses applied to only the first hit will have the bonus applied to all hits"

Sooo can we safely assume that CDC is about to go crazy?

@Harmless, This is the spell set I use for most solo stuff:

-Triple Attack-
Acrid Stream
Demoralizing Roar
Empty Thrash
Heavy Strike

-Dual Wield-
Animating Wail
Blazing Bound
Quadratic Continuum
Delta Thrust
Mortal Ray
Barbed Crescent

-Treasure Hunter-
Charged Whisker
Everyone's Grudge
Amorphic Spikes

-Store TP-
Sudden Lunge
Fantod

-Other Spells-
Battery Charge
Dream Flower
Magic Fruit
Coccoon
Erratic Flutter
Regeneration

I have 7 extra points from job points, so when I cap I can add Occultation or some other low cost utility spell like Saline Coat if needed. For where you don't need TH, you can drop all three spells and use those 12 set points for Sinker Drill (6) and Nature's Meditation (6).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Harmless 2014-12-03 04:00:55  
Quetzalcoatl.Langly said: »
I can send you mine Harmless. I'm only at 6/10 on the Blue Points JP's. But it's pretty easy to setup. Unfortunately I'm not at my home computer to paste it or send it to you atm.

I just have sets for:
DD
Salvage (Treasure Hunter)
Nuking (Subduction farming)
(And the standard proc spell sets that I never use)



That would be great, or even just list the spells would work as well. Thanks :)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-03 04:10:51  
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
Matsui's post about the upcoming update clarifies the weaponskill changes:

"- Adjustments so that certain weapon skills that had bonuses applied to only the first hit will have the bonus applied to all hits"

Sooo can we safely assume that CDC is about to go crazy?

doesn't say anything that we didn't already know. it depends on which "bonus" this refers to.
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-03 04:24:05  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
Matsui's post about the upcoming update clarifies the weaponskill changes:

"- Adjustments so that certain weapon skills that had bonuses applied to only the first hit will have the bonus applied to all hits"

Sooo can we safely assume that CDC is about to go crazy?

doesn't say anything that we didn't already know. it depends on which "bonus" this refers to.

But the crit chance factor is already applied to all hits, isn't it?

Edit: That only leaves the ftp bonus to be taken into account for his statement... or not? ; ;
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-03 04:28:05  
yes, that isn't one of the possibilities. fTP or ACC bonus rollovers are the major options that I can think of
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-03 04:31:25  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
yes, that isn't one of the possibilities. fTP or ACC bonus rollovers are the major options that I can think of

Oh right, I didn't think about the acc bonus to the first hit >.<
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By Odin.Brocovich 2014-12-03 04:33:08  
Didn't even know multihit ws have acc bonus for the first hit bit... but getting 2,25 ftp for all hits would be very op, so it has to be something else....
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-12-03 06:38:09  
Perhaps could be gorgets that raise fTP apply to all hits, or WSD% items work for all hits, or all hits have a chance to double attack?...just throwing out some other potential....why do they have to be so vague?
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-03 06:47:46  
Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
Perhaps could be gorgets that raise fTP apply to all hits, or WSD% items work for all hits, or all hits have a chance to double attack?...just throwing out some other potential....why do they have to be so vague?

or all of them combined! aww yisss
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-12-03 07:42:37  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
yes, that isn't one of the possibilities. fTP or ACC bonus rollovers are the major options that I can think of
It'd be very odd for them to have conveniently skipped over all the ws that have carried fTP if it was an acc bonus. I'm going to say that it is unlikely to be anything else.

But I'd take it as that first hit acc bonus is huge. I don't think I would need a high acc set for chant anymore.
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By Nazrious 2014-12-03 08:13:52  
Even if its only acc, standardized damage would be a benefit. Anything we get helps close the Gap. Would be nice to pull ahead of bandwagon Tsu Sams, here is to hope.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2014-12-03 08:14:29  
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
It'd be very odd for them to have conveniently skipped over all the ws that have carried fTP if it was an acc bonus.

The WS that carry ftp probably already carry acc/atk bonus.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2014-12-04 17:32:32  
Thoughts on Lacono Neck. +1 for physical spells?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-04 17:39:37  
Sylph.Hyunkyl said: »
Thoughts on Lacono Neck. +1 for physical spells?

1 STR for a handful of spells vs. 1 inventory slot. I wouldn't bother with it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-04 17:40:31  
ire torque with added atk and no acc penalty. not much to say really. hardly impressive
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-12-04 20:34:40  
Sylph.Hyunkyl said: »
Thoughts on Lacono Neck. +1 for physical spells?


Its the obvious clear winner for straight damage.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-04 20:48:55  
for str str/mnd and str/dex spells sure, but for str/vit ones it's worse than almost anything else you can wear on your neck, even if str/vit spells aren't as useful these days
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By oyama 2014-12-05 10:58:22  
Is it also possible that the secondary modifiers might be carrying over to additional hits, or does that not make sense? Doesn't that bonus only apply to the first hit?
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By Siren.Kyte 2014-12-05 13:36:12  
WSCs have always applied to all hits.
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By oyama 2014-12-05 17:24:01  
Ah ok, I thought that they only applied to the first hit but I wasn't sure.
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By Ragnarok.Worldslost 2014-12-09 08:39:05  
Tomorrow is the day all of my fellow blue mages. Do your best to out parse everyone you can. This may be the dawn of the blu era!
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-09 09:21:01  
Mythic SAM or gtfo!!!!!

In all seriousness Blu should own Mnk if we get a good bonus to wsd
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2014-12-09 09:27:30  
Looking forward to see what traits are on the new spells. Hopefully a DW spell so we can remove Wail.
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By FaeQueenCory 2014-12-09 09:31:14  
I'm expecting DW and auto-refresh.
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-12-09 09:33:27  
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Mythic SAM or gtfo!!!!!

In all seriousness Blu should own Mnk if we get a good bonus to wsd

Wait...we dont already?
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