The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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 Bismarck.Phetty
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2012-08-20 06:50:11  
Thanks forgot to mention +1 had more haste whole nq was the same. At the very least it isn't pink if that's what he's worried about.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-08-20 10:35:14  
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Dusk boots have more haste then pink feet and can buy on ah.

Only the +1s have more haste*

But Purple > Pink!
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By Phoenix.Esvedium 2012-08-20 11:07:49  
Blurple?
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By Peldin 2012-08-22 05:26:54  
Dusk Boots +1 Last sold on Sylph AH on July 1st.

I guess I'm stuck with pink until Athos =/
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2012-08-22 17:37:03  
Was starting to work on a sanguine blade set on blu would Chelone Hat (+1) be betters Seiokano beret?
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-08-23 12:59:51  
Could someone who does the maths tell me if Asklepian Ring would beat Aquasoul Ring for self-cures?

Trying to make some upgrades to this cure set for <300k per slot (limited funds atm):
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By Ronoclem 2012-08-23 13:16:54  
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Could someone who does the maths tell me if Asklepian Ring would beat Aquasoul Ring for self-cures?
from Wiki
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Magic Fruit:
Heals 0.5 more HP for each additional point of VIT, and 1.5 more HP for each point of MND.
Plenilune Embrace:
Heals roughly 2 more HP for every 1 MND.
Anwig Salade with Fast cast MND 6 and cure pots 3% is simple to obtain for BLU if your not using it for another job. and Cascade Belt is cheap for more MND.
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By Odin.Cindro 2012-08-23 18:47:46  
Under the TP set, could you add "Thaumas Gloves" in the possible swaps section? I know im using those until i can afford nomkahpa. :P
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-08-23 19:00:07  
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Was starting to work on a sanguine blade set on blu would Chelone Hat (+1) be betters Seiokano beret?
Only the +1 would be better, I believe.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-08-23 19:35:08  
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Was starting to work on a sanguine blade set on blu would Chelone Hat (+1) be betters Seiokano beret?

Dunno how Str effects magic Ws's if at all, to answer you properly, but I'd most likely go with Chelona +1

Edit: Laffter got to it first, I didn't read >.>;
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-08-23 20:36:57  
Sanguine Blade has a 30% STR mod in addition to the 50% MND mod and dINT. As mentioned, +1 > Seiokona > NQ.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-08-23 20:40:00  
I thought it was Int and Mnd for some reason lol
Guess that's dInt messing with me then.
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By Sylph.Ice 2012-08-24 11:51:39  
For Chant du Cygne AND TP set, should I use Nefarious/Rancor Collar or Nefarious/Rancor Mantle?
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By Lakshmi.Alryc 2012-08-24 12:04:26  
TP: Atheling/Rancor or Atheling/Portus
WS: Rancorous Mantle/Moepapa Medal or Atheling/Rancor Collar

I use Atheling/Rancor Collar for WS because inventory space is a betch on Blu.
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By Sylph.Ice 2012-08-24 15:22:37  
Lakshmi.Alryc said: »
TP: Atheling/Rancor or Atheling/Portus
WS: Rancorous Mantle/Moepapa Medal or Atheling/Rancor Collar

I use Atheling/Rancor Collar for WS because inventory space is a betch on Blu.

Unfortunately Portus is not in my foreseeable future. Not to keen on joining a dynamis LS.
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By Sylph.Breakdown 2012-08-25 03:28:08  
Can anyone post a pre-NNI TP set that I should aim for.
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By Gimp 2012-08-25 04:30:35  
almace/shikargar

oce +1
toci's
dusk +1 hands (neokampha maybe? but you lose 1.5haste for that 3DA and 5 Str I would think no)
atheling mantle
twilight belt
rancor collar
suppa
Brutal
Smart Grenade/Mantis Eye (pending accuracy use former if capped)
epona's
rajas
athos legs
athos feet
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-08-25 05:35:31  
Gimp said: »
almace/shikargar

oce +1
toci's
dusk +1 hands (neokampha maybe? but you lose 1.5haste for that 3DA and 5 Str I would think no)
atheling mantle
twilight belt
rancor collar
suppa
Brutal
Smart Grenade/Mantis Eye (pending accuracy use former if capped)
epona's
rajas
athos legs
athos feet
Actually yes, Nomkahpa would be better
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-08-25 16:57:50  
Nomkahpa Mittens are very rare, very expensive, and sidegradeish to haste+4 hands (might lose to Miodio) if they put you at 24% haste. That said, I don't know when we'll see an upgrade from them and they're best-in-slot once you get Thaumas gear.
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By Gimp 2012-08-25 19:57:25  
bit misleading what I said in what I posted for that gearset but you're half a haste from true cap with dusk +1 (but this is acceptable) so with either hands you're still not at haste cap and that there is a difference in haste. I can't tell returns on details like that so I can't say anything logically since I don't know ffxi math well.

I actually completely forgot about miodio since they're just that rare


clarifying for break's sake since it sounds like dusk +1 gives 1.5 haste over nomkampha which it doesn't.
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By Xilk 2012-08-27 18:31:03  
I didn't see the blu/mnk section or the breath section

:P

but seriously, great guide.
its nice to have it all in one spot and well formatted/organized.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2012-08-27 23:37:52  
Nice guide helped me a lot with getting my BLU working ok.
Few questions though:
1) Any gear I should put on solely for when I'm Chain affinity'ing, like the Empy +2 head?
2) Why isn't Epona's or Brutal in the Requiescat set?
3) Would Relic head +2 be better then Kepri for STR/VIT modded spells?
4) Where would the Mavi Scarf fit in a rank for physical blue spells? Hasn't been a Tjukurrpa or Ire +1 on the AH for a week+.

Any answers to these would be great. Thank you in advance.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-27 23:54:48  
1) Depends on the spell, but generally no.

2) Inferior

3) Not mathing it right now, but they'd be very similar. The deciding factor would be based on what you're getting out of the blue magic skill.

4) Incredibly low. I'd even use a chiv chain over it.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2012-08-28 00:08:40  
Thanks for the fast response but would you mind me asking why the ring/earring are worse then a MND counterpart? My LS mates are riding me about it. I thought it would mostly be due to the high Double / Triple attack rate we already have, is that correct?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-28 00:38:05  
Not really, your DA and TA during Requiescat will be rather low. Due to the high number of natural hits (6 with offhand), you won't be "gaining the full benefit" of TA/DA. Add in the fact that it's a 100% WSC on a weaponskill with little else going for it, i.e. 85% of your MND will be directly increasing your base damage, it's not much of a contest. Best case scenario I have Brutal and Epona's losing by +/- 20 points of damage on average.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2012-08-28 00:45:40  
I see. Thank you.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-08-28 18:39:23  
I know someone has already asked about Athos's Tabard for Chant du Cygne in place of Toci's, but it was paired with Ocelomeh Headpiece +1. So I was wondering if pairing Athos's Tabard with Khepri Bonnet would make a difference?

Simplified, the comparison is:

Toci/Ocelomeh: 1STR, 10 att, 3DA, 3TA
Athos/Khepri : 1DEX, 10 acc, 5%c.dmg, 3%c.rate
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By Ophannus 2012-08-29 04:29:02  
I think Khepri Head is in a similar boat to Thaumas Head(Think even Thaumas Hat would be better than Khepri...has less STR but 4% Crit)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-08-29 11:55:28  
Ophannus said: »
I think Khepri Head is in a similar boat to Thaumas Head(Think even Thaumas Hat would be better than Khepri...has less STR but 4% Crit)
The *** are you babbling about?

Odin.Llewelyn said: »
I know someone has already asked about Athos's Tabard for Chant du Cygne in place of Toci's, but it was paired with Ocelomeh Headpiece +1. So I was wondering if pairing Athos's Tabard with Khepri Bonnet would make a difference?

Simplified, the comparison is:

Toci/Ocelomeh: 1STR, 10 att, 3DA, 3TA
Athos/Khepri : 1DEX, 10 acc, 5%c.dmg, 3%c.rate
I'm going to assume you're using Myrmex hands, Athos legs, and Thaumas feet given the stated 3% critrate bonus. With that configuration, I have Athos/Khepri coming out slightly ahead of Toci's/Oce +1 even with uncapped Ratio. fSTR and WSC did not change with the stats I used, but if anything that favors the Athos set since it's more likely to get that 1 extra base damage and isn't subject to stat capping.

With Khepri legs the Toci's set pulls ahead again in uncapped fSTR/pDIF situations, but those are rather difficult to come by right now. Thaumas Hat is noticeably worse than any of the above options.
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