The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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 Bahamut.Cantontai
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-08-14 19:07:19  
My current TP set:



Would Toci's Harness beat Mavi Mintan +2? I can easily add an extra haste % in hand slot but would need to save to add a % with +1 head., would those make a difference?
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-08-14 19:16:05  
Atk +10, Str +13, Dex +13, Double Attack +3 and Triple Attack +3 will beat Acc +2, yes.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-14 19:18:07  
toci's harness destroys mavi mintan +2
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-08-14 19:18:46  
Ideally Toci's would be much better in slot because of the double attack and the triple attack from the set bonus, you also receive gains in crit rate from increasing your dDex using the 2 pieces.

If you don't have any thaumas then best you can do is Ocelomeh headpiece +1, dusk gloves +1/Miodio gloves, and Toci's to retain 25% haste.

Edit: Beaten by 39 seconds :(
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By Ophannus 2012-08-14 19:28:45  
I'm guessing TPBonus Moonshade/TPBonus Weapons don't enhance spells during Chain Affinity/Efflux?
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-08-14 19:30:04  
Thanks for quick responses everyone, I'll just have to pick up the haste in other slots. BRB, time to farm currency all week.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-14 19:31:52  
Ophannus said: »
I'm guessing TPBonus Moonshade/TPBonus Weapons don't enhance spells during Chain Affinity/Efflux?

no
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By Gimp 2012-08-14 23:46:54  
people moan and groan but dusk +1 unless you're getting thamaus hands or neokampha for tp.

i haven't really tried soloing coins yet in dyna but dont forget you have efflux > bloodrake on a 5 min timer which can take about 1.1k- 1.4k hp of a mob if you want to be frugal with your mp return ratios. Granted to make the most of a 5 minute cure for 99 mp and needing that much hp and making sure you wont die while letting yourself get that low is something to consider.

are dnc cures insufficient in dyna for soloing? not that osmosis steal effect isn't amazing itself, but when you're using full evasion/hybrid and spending most of your time proc'ing rather than dealing damage because they die so fast.


from someone without a hybrid eva/eva set yet doing dc monks i wasn't having problems keeping myself afloat on dnc cures and an occasional fruit but scorps are something potentially nastier so idk.
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By Ragnarok.Galiber 2012-08-15 02:59:58  
Ragnarok.Galiber said: »
Considering I don't have access, and probably won't ever at this point, to neo-nyzul gear ( :/ ), my BLU tp set being:

Almace/Str-atk - Mantis
Oce +1/Portus Collar/Brutal/Suppa
Toci/Alucinor Mitts/Epona's/Rajas
Atheling/Twilight/XXX/XXX

What should I wear as legs/feet? Would Athos Athos and staying at 25 haste be better than Mavi+2 and Enif Gambieras putting me at true haste cap? I'm also considering Full Enif set... Wonder if it would be better than toci+oce head.

Thanks.

Bumpety bump bump.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-15 03:05:03  
Athos/Athose
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By Ragnarok.Galiber 2012-08-15 10:47:04  
Thanks.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2012-08-15 12:21:39  
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
After the pickup of a couple of pieces, I'm kind of stuck on what would be an optimal CDC set.


I have access to a few different sets and various pieces that can change but I am not sure what would give me consistently the best damage.


For reference, I am using Rancor Collar/Atheling Mantle


Good mix of crit rate/attack/dex/str?


or
All out dex with crit rate where possible?


or

All out crit rate?


or





Basically I have access to

Head: Ocelomeh, Thaumas
Body: Loki's only unfortunately...unless I buy an Ocelomeh which others on here have advised NOT to do.
Hands: Kacura +1/Thaumas
Legs: Athos's/Thaumas
Feet: Kacura +1/Thaumas


EDIT: Or I could even do 4/5 Thaumas + Loki's.

As always, thanks for the tips.

Bumping >.>;
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By Gimp 2012-08-15 13:22:29  
in what situation, buffs, zone, mob, food?

Your accuracy after the previous factors?


Easy example off the top of my head, toci's will always be slightly worse than athos/loki inside abyssea but toci's will pull well ahead outside it.

on mobs with capped attack. your pieces with higher dex boosts will pull ahead rather than those mixed with attack ie the dex 10 boots to dex 3 attack/acc 7 ones. The reverse applies to when your attack isn't capped and/or acc is needed. On the reverse comparison however this isn't so great a comparison comparing good 99 ws gear like leaping boots +2(can't remember name) to 90 ws gear(that i can't remember either).

champs tonic is a suprisingly powerful factor alone are you going to consider making additional sets with the buff up and down? Crit rate does degrade in returns past a certain point but i couldn't tell you past what %.

With champs tonic being filled and applied in a good group i get 35%~40% crit rate on all VW mobs and it's probrably on and applied 80% of the time if i had to guess with the 20% waiting on it to refill.

the optimal set for ws outside abby is on the first page, the beginning of more cdc question upgrades on page eight, I wouldn't worry too much about what's good for what you have right now because you'll have to eventually get myrmex/athos hands and feet and then you'd be wondering the same questions all over again.

Also interested what crit rate and the returns you'd be parsing since you have waaaaaay more pieces than I do and how much blu can get without it degrading. more hits in a ws tend to be better than just relying on crit rate alone since we are onehanders.

Switching off to shikargar from my DA khadga my ws av on kaggen dropped by 300 because even in ridiculous high amounts da still manages to give some sort of increase. Don't get me wrong though I'm not saying khadga is better but I was definitely disheartened lol.
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By Ophannus 2012-08-18 19:36:18  
I'm making a Wind Shikargar cuz it seems like the cool thing to do for solos and I'm stumped about 200 Morbols in wind weather. Wiki says Vunkerl but I've been here for like 8 hours and it's double thunder for 90% of the time, then it's wind weather for like 2min and 41 seconds then back to thunder weather/clear. Wiki says riverne also but I've been here almost 4 hours without wind. Burning 200 in Konschat on wind day seems pretty lame too since they're spread out and only a couple pops. :(
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-18 19:52:58  
Bhaflau thickets/Wajaom woodlands
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By Ronoclem 2012-08-18 20:08:52  
I've done that trial twice, It sounds like you were just unlucky with the weather. Be sure to use Magian Spectacles to see if there will be weather before waiting hours. I got both mine done between Vunk and riverne site B01 (Double weather). Its the worst trial on that sword.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-08-18 20:42:46  
I got both wind swords done in vunk pretty easy. Id say just check your spectacles for good times and just leave if there is no good chance of it soon. Its rare, but there are times the weather stays up for a while and the pops are pretty quick as well.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-08-18 20:58:49  
Wind weather is seasonal in most zones; check up on current weather patterns beforehand. My AGI Shikargar only took a few days.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-08-18 21:04:54  
Wind weather is like March - October in Whitegate zones.
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By Gimp 2012-08-19 02:19:11  
for blu in vw, has anyone tried looking at an alternate haste setup using ig's atmacite my wifi is too shaky to really look into one without disconnecting constantly but wondering if there were tp sets to use to aleviate haste and improve DOT.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-08-19 23:23:58  
Ophannus said: »
I'm making a Wind Shikargar cuz it seems like the cool thing to do for solos and I'm stumped about 200 Morbols in wind weather. Wiki says Vunkerl but I've been here for like 8 hours and it's double thunder for 90% of the time, then it's wind weather for like 2min and 41 seconds then back to thunder weather/clear. Wiki says riverne also but I've been here almost 4 hours without wind. Burning 200 in Konschat on wind day seems pretty lame too since they're spread out and only a couple pops. :(

http://ff11info.com/bazaar/en/weather.php
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By Peldin 2012-08-20 06:08:49  
Is Mextli Harness better for TP than AF3+2 Body?
Not sure if giving up the refresh is worth it outside abyssea. Thoughts?
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-08-20 06:21:36  
Peldin said: »
Is Mextli Harness better for TP than AF3+2 Body?
Not sure if giving up the refresh is worth it outside abyssea. Thoughts?
I'd definately say it's better than AF3+2, you can always have a spellcast rule or a macro set to swap into AF3+2 for TP if you're running low on MP, perhaps someone told me I was wrong for doing this but I TP'd in Mextli before I got Toci's Harness and then I got Thaumas Coat so I don't see why not.
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By Peldin 2012-08-20 06:26:17  
Well I just leveled BLU to 99 today.

How's this for an initial set?



Yeah I might pick up dusk gloves +1 but I'll probably save the money to buy Oce head instead. Also... the boots are going to be embarrassing. Should I get started on farming for Athos' Boots or is there something else I can settle for that's less.... pink?
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By Asura.Hardgrave 2012-08-20 06:29:55  
Peldin said: »
Well I haven't even leveled my BLU to 99 yet so not too worried about Toci's for now.
How's this for an initial set?


Switch Pink feet for Homam or Athos's.
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By Peldin 2012-08-20 06:34:08  
Ah Homam. I've never done much with sea except to farm for ABC's and upgrade ninja chainmail to +1.
So being a complete noob to that stuff, should I just focus on Athos then or are the Athos' boots so rare that I should figure out how to get an Omega Tail?
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By Asura.Hardgrave 2012-08-20 06:37:06  
Peldin said: »
Ah Homam. I've never done much with sea except to farm for ABC's and upgrade ninja chainmail to +1.
So being a complete noob to that stuff, should I just focus on Athos then or are the Athos' boots so rare that I should figure out how to get an Omega Tail?

I'd just work on Athos's, Homam feet aren't too bad to get and if anything someone is prob willing to sell for low price.
I'm 0/343593085930 on Athos's feet but I have no luck in VW(like anyone does..), but I'm fairly sure they are best option for TP feet, should focus on them more.

Edit: If you can get Thaumas legs, you don't need to TP in haste feet.
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By Peldin 2012-08-20 06:38:23  
Thanks
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2012-08-20 06:42:47  
Dusk boots have more haste then pink feet and can buy on ah.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-08-20 06:46:40  
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Dusk boots have more haste then pink feet and can buy on ah.

Only the +1s have more haste*
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