"The Republican War Against Women" - The Book

Whether it's illegal or not people have the right to have an opinion on whether they agree with it or not.

They can "have a say" but unless the thing is growing in their body, it's not their call.

and those opinions are typically ill advised and emotionally driven nonsense, and should be treated as such.

I still have to disagree with you on that.

you know what's funny about what you said? That's your opinion lol...

Takes 2 to tango as they say. If you didn't want a kid then don't ***. If ya think you are grown up enough to *** then you are grown up enough to have a kid. WAIT WHAT?! THEY HAVE PROTECTION?! OOH WOW AND WHAT'S THIS?! A RANGE OF 75-99% OF IT WORKING?! OMG CRAZY!!!!!

That's how I look at it.

You can disagree all you want. No individual aside from the person that has to carry the child to term should be making that decision. I don't even understand how this is a topic of debate.

Yeah, I think that as a society, we don't have enough male involvement in the lives of mothers and children, not too much. That women bear the responsibility of actually being pregnant is just luck - bad or good, depending on perspective.

On a case by case basis? Hell naw, I'm not going to say anything to a woman who may die if she brings her pregnancy to term. That, to me, would be a woman's health issue. (Not even that - a personal health issue, really.)


But doesn't that encourage "didn't come out of my body, I'm not feeding/clothing/caring for it." ?

What about rape victims? And all the women whose men leave and are forced to carry the burden alone?

Idk how you can post in this thread then wonder that... /facepalm

Poor fathers are poor fathers with or without excuses.

Then why should I have to take care of it after its out? I'm bound to the child for life but I have no say so on whether it gets to come to term or not because I'm not physically attached? Sorry I'll never accept that.

you should learn the difference between stating a fact and an opinion, it would do you well.

Ooooh so you take what I said.. and disregard the situation under which I said it. Well played, now how about I take your idea and twist it around to my advantage point.

What about all those women who just sleep around and don't use birth control and just get an abortion and don't care? See what I did there?

great primitive thinking there, didn't realize this was the dark ages.

I'm not talking in general just case by case... I'm saying the father of the child should have a say as well.

Yeah, me too. :D I am lost in quote-land though.

I was speaking in terms of policy making/amending.

I agree on a case-by-case basis.

You don't have to, though. You are legally allowed to terminate parental rights to the child. As such, you have no say in whether it comes to term or not.

You are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Joey used that stupid primitive thinking and I just used the same bs he tried to use in an argument in the other side spectrum. Maybe you should get your head out your *** and read.

You sure do love your buzzwords. First infanticide and now molesting children? lol. Yeah, I'm sure those TSA agents can't wait to fondle little Timmy and grandma Agnes before carrying out a cavity search on the guy in a wheelchair.

Again, none of us know how many attacks have been foiled simply because perpetrators arrived at the conclusion that they weren't going to be able to make it through the TSA checkpoints. As I said in the last post, the TSA is a coffee filter and while it is impossible for the agency to be an impenetrable shield, it can be useful in deterring individuals from carrying out attacks.

This is no different than being asked to walk through a metal detector or being asked to spread your arms and legs while a court officer waves you down with a baton.

It takes a combination of traveler vigilance coupled with proper security checkpoints to best protect against attacks being carried out. Prove the TSA isn't effective since you've arrived at the conclusion that the agency is completely ineffective. You can't. Huge inconvenience? Give me a break, the checkpoints aren't even that big a deal.

Since you mentioned bloat and waste are you for slashing military spending?


Tell me, what is stopping a move to this position? Every other position (abortion, contraception, gay rights, healthcare) has been based on the superior moral high ground that religion awards its adherents so what makes you think a push to "every sperm is sacred" is impossible? It's been done before.

no he didn't, it's you who needs to learn how to read...

You're always going to have men involved in making/amending policy because men are involved in health care for women and are on whatever panels make those decisions...

We don't really separate on that... We don't preclude women from being involved in making policy for men's health care either...

Yes in addition to other similar bills.

sparth, I can't believe you are posting that...

There's several other nations who don't violate their air passengers and still manage to keep a relative level of security.

see Israel for instance.

Most countries mock us for our incompetance in our laughable fascist style airport security.

There's more effective alternatives that don't violate the rights of the passengers, it's about time we use them.

women don't stand on street corners with posters of pictures of mangled penis or gigantism of the balls either...

Lol.

Just *** lol.

Suddenly, I need to have a vagina to have an opinion on social issues for people with vaginas.

I guess I should be black to have an opinion on black issues, right?

I mean, critical thinking skills shouldn't mean anything. Knowledge into the human body, brain, mind, morality, etc shouldn't mean ***.

I don't have a vagina, so I should shut up.

I guess I'll shutup about bank issues, too, since I'm not a banker.

whats so god damn funny?


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oop you ninja edited on me,

I don't want russians making american laws either...

we could do this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE dance all day

Dependent on what state you live in that may or may not be true.

Wow then I see you are a case who should have been aborted. I was talking about people who are in their right mind having sex. A normal situation, no rape victims, no shitty partners. He then decides to say, "what about rape victims and fathers who leave?" I wasn't talking about that and he feels he got me with a question like that. Then I used the same bs he used and reversed it. HOW can you be so blind... ooh right you are blind to only your own ideas that you can't see that.

Each situation is different, btw if you can't tell a guy is *** not worth being with then your fault for having sex with him. Sorry use a brain it's called dating for a reason. Once you get to that point in a relationship, and you feel he's not a Douche Bag Steve.

If you are a rape victim why would I expect you to carry a child that you wouldn't have had from not wanting it? You have to be a *** moron to think so otherwise. Why do people think this is a legitimate question? WHAT ABOUT THE RAPE VICTIMS?! No ***Sherlock of course that is a situation that doesn't fall under Category A or B