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 Ragnarok.Eriina
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2012-05-07 22:48:53  
Jetackuu said: »
so two -pdt and or +eva would be best for dyna farming?

I wouldn't bother with the +eva. I have 2 and they sit in storage. It's been my experience that if dipper/falcor can't evade, I'm better off using another pet anyway. -pdt still seems to add more to their suvivability than more eva. Perhaps there's a situation where 40eva turns a fight from impossible to loleasy that I'm unaware of though.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-07 22:51:06  
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Jetackuu said: »
so two -pdt and or +eva would be best for dyna farming?

if I were making a str axe (screwed up on a few trials etc) should I use the pet att+ or the regular att+?

same with the double attack one?

(which I'll be looking into later, gah another axe...)
PDT or eva are completely useless in Dynamis.

Get a STR Axe before anything else as suggested above and a multi hit offhand such as OAT, OA4 or a Ridill. Or you can go with a second STR or a DA+ Axe as offhand. Personnal choice here, to be honest.
The STR Axe is the one with stats for yourself, not the pet. The pet should be happy enough with "pet: haste" gear, in Dyna.

I personally picked a multi hit offhand over any other Axe for the simple reason that 20TP per round on average is priceless.


Off handing str axe is fail when the DA axe has more base dmge
If we follow your logic, if you aren't main handing a Guttler and offhanding whatever the best offhand axe is, you are failing.

Pick whichever is doable for you, either choice isn't bad, that's the point.
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By sefalon 2012-05-07 22:58:36  
Senkyuutai we are not talking about gutler or farsha. My logic is that I wouldnt off hand a axe that has lower base dmg. We both said to use a str axe and you yourself said a OAT or DA axe.. I personally prefer the DA axe on bst which is probably one of the only jobs where the DA axe is a great option.

I am talking about 78 damae axe over a 74 dmg axe. If you want to do 2 str axes by all means go for it.

If you are saying he should off hand the DA axe thats the only problem I see in what you said...

But go ahead and spin it any way you want. I am just trying to help the poster
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-07 23:21:01  
So for Dyna,pet DEF axes. Everything else, STR and double ATT correct??
 
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-07 23:25:24  
Nice!!! I must have one!!
 
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By sefalon 2012-05-07 23:26:47  
no dont use pet def for dynamis... You can for abyssea..

str axe for sure as 1 axe

other axe is up 2 you.

I use DA axe 11 because it has a highest base dmg of a axe outside of making gutler,farsh or mythic..

The OA2 OA4 axe are easier and cheaper to make and getting a ridill can be tough if you dont have it already.

The DA Axe could cost you 6-9mil based on the cost of items. I have a lot of axes and my personal experiance DA axe main and STR axe off hand is the way to go.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-07 23:29:24  
I need 1 more coin. Then done!! They cost that much!!!! Well cheaper than plates I guess, lol.
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By sefalon 2012-05-07 23:30:33  
200 silver mirrors at avg 25k 5mil right there.
A lot of ppl sell at 30k thats another mil...

riftsand 200 x 5-10k a pop another 1-2 mil
 
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-07 23:32:07  
Will be in in 35 mins!!
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-07 23:59:05  
thanks for the posts, guess it looks like I'll be doing dual str axes as I don't want to really spend that much when I'm trying to farm+buy currency.

I really do need to do some abyssea to get better armor, mine sucks.
 
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-08 00:05:11  
was doing /dnc for ja procs
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-08 01:23:48  
Thank you Jos!!!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-08 09:12:13  
sefalon said: »
Senkyuutai we are not talking about gutler or farsha. My logic is that I wouldnt off hand a axe that has lower base dmg. We both said to use a str axe and you yourself said a OAT or DA axe.. I personally prefer the DA axe on bst which is probably one of the only jobs where the DA axe is a great option.

I am talking about 78 damae axe over a 74 dmg axe. If you want to do 2 str axes by all means go for it.

If you are saying he should off hand the DA axe thats the only problem I see in what you said...

But go ahead and spin it any way you want. I am just trying to help the poster
This was meant as a second choice of Axe, it has absolutely nothing to do with offhanding it.

Why would you offhand the weapon that gives the most bonuses when mainhanded?

There is no spinning, you just assumed that, by my wording, I was HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and you knew better so you had to spill it. It's fine, people always assume that others are lower than themselves, you'll learn one day.

Jetackuu said: »
thanks for the posts, guess it looks like I'll be doing dual str axes as I don't want to really spend that much when I'm trying to farm+buy currency.

I really do need to do some abyssea to get better armor, mine sucks.
My goal in Dynamis is pretty much the same, that's why double STR Axe is more than good to simply farm currency and build a relic. They are fast to make, very effective, can't go wrong.

DA one takes time that you would be better off doing VW or whatever else brings money if your sole purpose is building a relic with BST. Simple.
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-05-08 09:22:51  

I've made the farsha up to fistule stage in the last 5-6 days. assuming dude's math is accurate, you'd be better off doing farsha 90 than the DA axe, lol
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-08 23:29:59  
You are flying on the Empy. Nice man!!
 
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-09 09:38:27  
Oh no, that guy sucks!! But thank you for the FYI bro!!
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By sefalon 2012-05-09 23:01:25  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Jetackuu said: »
so two -pdt and or +eva would be best for dyna farming?

if I were making a str axe (screwed up on a few trials etc) should I use the pet att+ or the regular att+?

same with the double attack one?

(which I'll be looking into later, gah another axe...)
PDT or eva are completely useless in Dynamis.

Get a STR Axe before anything else as suggested above and a multi hit offhand such as OAT, OA4 or a Ridill. Or you can go with a second STR or a DA+ Axe as offhand. Personnal choice here, to be honest.
The STR Axe is the one with stats for yourself, not the pet. The pet should be happy enough with "pet: haste" gear, in Dyna.

I personally picked a multi hit offhand over any other Axe for the simple reason that 20TP per round on average is priceless.


I bolded the key words for you that you said so If you dont want me to assume make sure you are clear with what you are saying. Its ok to admit when you are wrong it helps you grow.

2nd point to your last comment DA axe can be done a lot faster than the str axe because the DA axe does not really on Fire weather. If the poster is just doing dynamis and plans on not doing anything else with bst than he can get 2 off the AH some perle gear and call it a day. From what I have read he plans on actually using his BST for other things.
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By sefalon 2012-05-09 23:05:53  
Siren.Mosin said: »

I've made the farsha up to fistule stage in the last 5-6 days. assuming dude's math is accurate, you'd be better off doing farsha 90 than the DA axe, lol

And lets not start spitting nonsense the LVL 90 farsh is 74 dmge 10 str not even as good as a str axe. The DA has 11 DA and 78 base dmge.... If you are riding out farsha for after math you will fall behind a whole lot of axes on Ruinator spam. So unless you want to pump in 150 mil to get it to 95 its no optimal IMO.
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By Aikawa 2012-05-10 01:11:49  
For Ruinator the difference between the STR axe and DA axe Base damage is almost nothing. Same with all Merited WS. the %MOD is so high that base damage don't do too much there.

So I'd go OTA axe off hand if wanna spam Ruinator.. but the DA axe have 1 good point.. you got 10-11% more to proc DA on Ruinator.
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