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 Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-04 00:39:27  
No, but the fact that my cat could do that and solo things that would normally require 2 semi-competent or even competent players, or one competent player dual boxing DD + healer to accomplish is beyond HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and why the job is frustrating to be around.

Example: Doing turul, oh hey look a bst claimed it and is LITERALLY ALT TABBED WHILE HIS PET SOLOS IT LOL! In order for me to kill it I'd need to be NIN + WHM dual boxing, keeping barthundra up, keeping haste up, keeping shadows up, switching to MDB gear for nukes, silenaing, staying out of it's AOE silence range on my mule, keeping my back to the wall, etc.(yes I am aware that turul is a complete joke to kill, but most of these bad players playing bst could never dream of killing it with 2 people on REAL jobs, even for a complete joke NM that a competent player could dual box np)

Tell me, which requires someone to actually be at their keyboard?

edit: Bst is basically a job for bad players, I am fully aware it has a semi-high skill cap for a melee DD(nowhere near dancer, however), but it's skill ceiling is so low it's degrading to the entire game.
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-04 00:42:39  
I melee Turul on BST....
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 Cerberus.Anjisnu
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-05-04 00:43:06  
on bst i have pet pdt, pet mdt,pet tp, pet ws, reward, master tp, master ws,master mdt, master pdt,and i swap gear more than most nin drk sam war do so you likely have only seen people that dont know the job kiaru
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 Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-04 00:45:11  
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
on bst i have pet pdt, pet mdt,pet tp, pet ws, reward, master tp, master ws,master mdt, master pdt,and i swap gear more than most nin drk sam war do so you likely have only seen peple that dont know the job kiaru
I am fully aware it has a semi-high skill cap for a melee DD(nowhere near dancer, however), but it's skill ceiling is so low it's degrading to the entire game. <-

What you said is not needed at all, you literally do not need to do any of those actions to be successful at bst, which is the problem with the job. Read what I typed carefully.
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-04 00:45:37  
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
was more referring toward the "playing bst makes you lose skill comment" somethin broken with my ability to quote posts
It makes you worse at the game because you can solo things that would normally require a healer + DD(dual box or not), by putting your pet on the mob, and doing the alt tab thing I talked about @_@
While other players have to change to MDB gear durning -ga's, am2's, t5's, PDT for TP moves, evasion gear, cure, haste, WS, random JA's, you're literally alt tabbed watching your pet solo things, only tabbing in to randomly heal your pet for 406046064, or resummon if you forgot to tab back in for too long.

+1 alt tabbing skill, -1 ffxi skill.

AND BST dosen't. I have self -MDB -PDT EVA on my bst. Then again I'm not this derp *** bunch of lazy motherf**kers that the only macro they had to 99 was /item "Forbidden Key" <t> that's giving the rest of us a bad name. Now GTFO with your BST10 you have nothing worthwhile to contribute. Where us BST can go on soloing our stuff rain or shine, does it suffice to say if your Dbox WHM that gives so much more skill than me D/C'd youd be crippled and die? I sense jelousy because we don't need to limp around Vana'diel with a mage crutch on anything stronger than a EP.
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 Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-04 00:46:48  
I have respect for real bsts, but the fact that my cat could be successful at your job because of what SE has done to it is why I hate the job so much.
 Ragnarok.Eluveitie
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-04 00:53:43  
Post video of your cat soloing an NM then....just set up a camera set your cat in front of the PC hit rec and walk out of the room. And I don't mean a LOLNM either gotta be something like Kirin or a T1/T2 VW
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-05-04 00:54:05  
so everyone should drop bst even if they soloed it to 75 as their first maat job then pay for a second account to level whm so that they could do something dual box instead of solo it
 
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 Shiva.Keyera
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-05-04 00:55:53  
The issue is the bandwagoners vs the careers...I know quite a few BSTs that take the job 100% seriously, and I take them seriously as a result. However, competing with perle bsts for NMs that they take 1~2hrs to kill via afk is absolutely frustrating. Not to mention the same breed of bsts clogging up dynamis.

Edit: we all remember MNKs and abyssea not a few months ago

I feel as though this is what Kiaru is trying to get at, but beating around the bush.
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 Cerberus.Anjisnu
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-05-04 00:58:31  
i feel the same about the perle folk runnin about and do not like being compared to them
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-04 00:58:32  
That's what's annoying me and I said it earlier the /item "Forbidden Key" <t> BST has ruined peoples impression of us as a whole. And it is SE's fault for revamping dynamis. Is it nice gil? yes. On the flipside we now have a game full of derp BST's that's SOLE purpose for leveling it was "oooo i can get shiny coiny thingys and make a aaaallll kinda moneys!"
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 Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-04 01:00:08  
Shiva.Keyera said: »
The issue is the bandwagoners vs the careers...I know quite a few BSTs that take the job 100% seriously, and I take them seriously as a result. However, competing with perle bsts for NMs that they take 1~2hrs to kill via afk is absolutely frustrating. Not to mention the same breed of bsts clogging up dynamis.

Edit: we all remember MNKs and abyssea not a few months ago

I feel as though this is what Kiaru is trying to get at, but beating around the bush.
This is exactly what I'm saying, dealing with full perle bsts soloing some NM without even proccing blue or anything for hours is the most frustrating thing I've ever experienced in a video game.
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 Ragnarok.Eluveitie
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-04 01:04:01  
It frustrates me too as a BST having to wait in line behind these fools.
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-05-04 01:07:11  
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Shiva.Keyera said: »
The issue is the bandwagoners vs the careers...I know quite a few BSTs that take the job 100% seriously, and I take them seriously as a result. However, competing with perle bsts for NMs that they take 1~2hrs to kill via afk is absolutely frustrating. Not to mention the same breed of bsts clogging up dynamis.

Edit: we all remember MNKs and abyssea not a few months ago

I feel as though this is what Kiaru is trying to get at, but beating around the bush.
This is exactly what I'm saying, dealing with full perle bsts soloing some NM without even proccing blue or anything for hours is the most frustrating thing I've ever experienced in a video game.

Whats frustrating is being a main bst with a relic and still cant join anything cause any crappy mnk,war,sam,drk is suppose a better dd. So now i have to go lvl a new job just to get invited to anything.
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 Cerberus.Anjisnu
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-05-04 01:08:36  
well op person look at the sets that were posted they are very solid sets but the only way you will learn bst is to play bst we dont get many parties
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 Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-04 01:11:24  
Bahamut.Zangada said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Shiva.Keyera said: »
The issue is the bandwagoners vs the careers...I know quite a few BSTs that take the job 100% seriously, and I take them seriously as a result. However, competing with perle bsts for NMs that they take 1~2hrs to kill via afk is absolutely frustrating. Not to mention the same breed of bsts clogging up dynamis.

Edit: we all remember MNKs and abyssea not a few months ago

I feel as though this is what Kiaru is trying to get at, but beating around the bush.
This is exactly what I'm saying, dealing with full perle bsts soloing some NM without even proccing blue or anything for hours is the most frustrating thing I've ever experienced in a video game.



Whats frustrating is being a main bst with a relic and still cant join anything cause any crappy mnk,war,sam,drk is suppose a better dd. So now i have to go lvl a new job just to get invited to anything.

Once bard buffs, embrava, shell, and temps transfer to pets then bst and PUP will be viable DD's, until then not really :(
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-05-04 01:17:12  
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Bahamut.Zangada said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Shiva.Keyera said: »
The issue is the bandwagoners vs the careers...I know quite a few BSTs that take the job 100% seriously, and I take them seriously as a result. However, competing with perle bsts for NMs that they take 1~2hrs to kill via afk is absolutely frustrating. Not to mention the same breed of bsts clogging up dynamis.

Edit: we all remember MNKs and abyssea not a few months ago

I feel as though this is what Kiaru is trying to get at, but beating around the bush.
This is exactly what I'm saying, dealing with full perle bsts soloing some NM without even proccing blue or anything for hours is the most frustrating thing I've ever experienced in a video game.



Whats frustrating is being a main bst with a relic and still cant join anything cause any crappy mnk,war,sam,drk is suppose a better dd. So now i have to go lvl a new job just to get invited to anything.

Once bard buffs, embrava, shell, and temps transfer to pets then bst and PUP will be viable DD's, until then not really :(

I'll still out dmg most of them, ppl just too ignorent to invite me as bst.
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 Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-05-04 05:31:25  
I have a Perle Bst, (well Perle body) u mad? I just don't use it to solo tough NM's xD lol
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-05-04 18:11:01  
Valefor.Omerta said: »
I have a Perle Bst, (well Perle body) u mad? I just don't use it to solo tough NM's xD lol

According to this thread, we can't get mad at you unless you afk solo Turul while watching netflix and there's a dual boxer there waiting for the ToD. Just don't do that and we coo'.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-04 22:54:19  
i am semi-new BST. Soloed most my seals and plus2 items. But I am mostly a melee BST. I know what you mean about taking forever to kill something or pulling to many mobs. I do my best to be respectful of others and there time. It's not a crime to be a pearl BST. But I would not stay one for long. If I am taking to long I always ask what plp need if there waiting.
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By sefalon 2012-05-05 00:14:47  
I only have a problem with BST in dynamis. If you are doing seal NM on bst in Aby you are only huting yourself since there are still a ton of seal shouts(at least on my server) and you kill faster with other jobs and proc.. Last night I entered dynamis qufim with 5 ppl and 15 min later 32. I never saw so much perle in one zone since lvl 90 and most of these guys were still using Rampage.

When I did carabosse at lvl 85 I never saw a bst killing it besides me. I had tons of tells like "How in the hell can BST solo this guy" It felt pretty cool till about lvl 90 than I saw NIN soloing it and I felt that was more impressive so I changed my strategy.

If I could give the OP advice I would say Bst is situational lol

If you are going to solo Abyssea It more about your Atmas than it is your gear. Any PDT axes/gear you can get is bonus but not needed. Razed Ruins Mountain Champion and Ducal Guard are all you really need. I myself dont use ducal that much and swap it out for Vissitude which has similar stats to MM plus some mag def.

If you plan to solo dynamis I would focus ON pure DD damage get 5/5 ruinator. Merit Killer Effects Make a str axe and DA +11 axe. (just make sure you main hand the DA axe as it has more base dmg. (I see several ppl who went this route and main hand str axe)

If you plan on doing VW just level a diff job because you are not getting a invite.
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 Ragnarok.Eluveitie
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-05 00:31:52  
That is true. While I love my BST it's for playing alone. With other people I have NIN or <insertsomeotherDDjobhere>
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-05-05 02:19:38  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Valefor.Omerta said: »
I have a Perle Bst, (well Perle body) u mad? I just don't use it to solo tough NM's xD lol

According to this thread, we can't get mad at you unless you afk solo Turul while watching netflix and there's a dual boxer there waiting for the ToD. Just don't do that and we coo'.
Got it
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-05 06:29:48  
BST can be a fun job. But for fast kills I use my Ukkon WAR.
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