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Random Question thread (FFXI related)
Asura.Jezzus
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 410
By Asura.Jezzus 2015-01-23 18:37:18
Has 90% of the player base become the buying end of RMTs?
Someone in an old LS says to me about working on mythic:
"Oh yeah I just started on Alex I'm buying if they are cheap."
A month later:
Me: "Hey I got some alex I found in my inventory if you want it."
Them: "Oh I'm done with alex."
Me: "Where are you getting all this gil?"
Them: "Oh, I farmed pretty much all the alex except the few hundred you sold to me."
smh, is everyone in bliss of lying to each other about this?
I have BOUGHT gil on occasions!
1: I owed someone a bit of gil and didn't want to sacrifice my income(Yup I know still wrong.)
2: I planned on quitting and liquified my assets to encourage not coming back and when I did I was so pissed I bought what I lost and it was in my favor. I ended up with ghorn instead of amano as I would have.(Yup I know still wrong.)
Quetzalcoatl.Valli
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1420
By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-23 18:41:16
Well, 200m isn't exactly difficult to make. 2 months to make 200m at a snails pace. And if you cheat, you can loop floors and make a shitload of alex in mere weeks.
But yeah, people buy gil. A lot of them. There wouldn't be a market if there wasn't. People aren't ashamed anymore. Buying gil used to be a sin, it would get you ostracized, now mothafuckas be like hell yeah I bought gil.
It's disgusting. But that's the culture now.
Asura.Jezzus
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 410
By Asura.Jezzus 2015-01-23 18:42:17
Yes but this person said they FARMED the ALEX.
Quetzalcoatl.Valli
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1420
By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-23 18:44:39
Humans rarely say what they mean. And humans are dishonest.
To some, "farming" means searching bazaars.
Or maybe he just looped floors. It's not a big secret.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6184
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2015-01-23 18:45:42
Perhaps they used the salvage exploit to farm it.
I have never bought or sold Gil, but one time a friend of a friend of a friend reactivated and bought 100m, 70m of which ended up as a kclub. The friend of a friend of a friend went to jail for a year for drug stuff, so the friend of a friend grabbed his stuff. Because he plays games for no longer than 2 weeks, he ended up quitting and giving it to my friend. Then my friend eventually quit and gave it to me. Then I eventually gave it to an Anni RNG.
And this ends the story of Byrth's close(ish) encounters of the RMT kind.
Asura.Jezzus
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 410
By Asura.Jezzus 2015-01-23 18:46:28
Yeah its just funny when they ride a horse in their LSs acting like hot shots and talking down about the bigger fish when they aren't doing half the ***those guys are doing.
No wonder one of their members abandoned you as your leader.
Asura.Jezzus
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 410
By Asura.Jezzus 2015-01-23 18:53:01
Perhaps they used the salvage exploit to farm it.
I have never bought or sold Gil, but one time a friend of a friend of a friend reactivated and bought 100m, 70m of which ended up as a kclub. The friend of a friend of a friend went to jail for a year for drug stuff, so the friend of a friend grabbed his stuff. Because he plays games for no longer than 2 weeks, he ended up quitting and giving it to my friend. Then my friend eventually quit and gave it to me. Then I eventually gave it to an Anni RNG.
And this ends the story of Byrth's close(ish) encounters of the RMT kind.
Byrth I have nothing but respect for you. It has nothing to do with what you just said either. I am just someone who actually understands and recognizes what you do for that majority of the community.
Asura.Jezzus
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 410
By Asura.Jezzus 2015-01-23 19:01:18
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Humans rarely say what they mean. And humans are dishonest.
To some, "farming" means searching bazaars.
Or maybe he just looped floors. It's not a big secret.
"I'm going to make some mule accounts to just start lopping floors."
-Said after they completed alex.
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6052
By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2015-01-23 19:27:15
Did jezzus's dad get shot by a gilbuyer in a back alley or is he just trying too hard?
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By Pantafernando 2015-01-23 19:43:26
To kill jezzus dad thats heresy.
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サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-01-23 20:40:22
Has 90% of the player base become the buying end of RMTs?
Someone in an old LS says to me about working on mythic:
"Oh yeah I just started on Alex I'm buying if they are cheap."
A month later:
Me: "Hey I got some alex I found in my inventory if you want it."
Them: "Oh I'm done with alex."
Me: "Where are you getting all this gil?"
Them: "Oh, I farmed pretty much all the alex except the few hundred you sold to me."
smh, is everyone in bliss of lying to each other about this?
I have BOUGHT gil on occasions!
1: I owed someone a bit of gil and didn't want to sacrifice my income(Yup I know still wrong.)
2: I planned on quitting and liquified my assets to encourage not coming back and when I did I was so pissed I bought what I lost and it was in my favor. I ended up with ghorn instead of amano as I would have.(Yup I know still wrong.)
Something you may not have thought of, you can have many mules on one account, burn their THF or MNK to 99, and do salvage in sparks gear. Some people have friends who are willing to loan them their characters for an extra salvage run each day. I've collected almost 11K Alex in 3 weeks by just running salvage and dyna daily. I helped a friend build a relic in like 3 weeks in the process.
There's plenty of legit ways to amass large amounts of gil or items in a short time.
By Pantafernando 2015-01-24 04:09:11
If jezzus forgave judas for selling his char for 30 imperial silver pieces, why cant jezzus just forgive rmts for the miracle of multiplication of gil?
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By Pantafernando 2015-01-24 05:07:08
Does trick attack works with pets?
Thanks in advance.
By Leoheart 2015-01-24 10:28:32
Can you send Rem's Tales between characters on the same account?
By valli 2015-01-24 10:29:22
Can you send Rem's Tales between characters on the same account?
Yes
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By Leoheart 2015-01-24 10:30:28
oohhh nice, thanks :3
Lakshmi.Amymy
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 881
By Lakshmi.Amymy 2015-01-24 15:14:13
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
By valli 2015-01-24 15:19:44
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
It's basically "legal" RMTing. You're paying square to server transfer to make gil, aka buying gil.
Lakshmi.Amymy
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 881
By Lakshmi.Amymy 2015-01-24 15:36:06
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
It's basically "legal" RMTing. You're paying square to server transfer to make gil, aka buying gil.
My dilemma is bringing a mule from my old server to where I transfer to. So either way I am going to pay another transfer. Now if I can go back to my old server with profit that's not a bad idea.
Was asking if people think this is rude or bad behavior or players don't approve of this.
By Pantafernando 2015-01-24 15:40:16
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
It's basically "legal" RMTing. You're paying square to server transfer to make gil, aka buying gil.
My dilemma is bringing a mule from my old server to where I transfer to. So either way I am going to pay another transfer. Now if I can go back to my old server with profit that's not a bad idea.
Was asking if people think this is rude or bad behavior or players don't approve of this.
I think its bad behavior exploiting alex cheating, using flee hack in dynamis, delve, stun botting, cure botting, duping, rmting, preventing harmful packets and the list goes on.
But so what? Did i change anything?
Lakshmi.Amymy
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 881
By Lakshmi.Amymy 2015-01-24 15:43:38
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
It's basically "legal" RMTing. You're paying square to server transfer to make gil, aka buying gil.
My dilemma is bringing a mule from my old server to where I transfer to. So either way I am going to pay another transfer. Now if I can go back to my old server with profit that's not a bad idea.
Was asking if people think this is rude or bad behavior or players don't approve of this.
I think its bad behavior exploiting alex cheating, using flee hack in dynamis, delve, stun botting, cure botting, duping, rmting, preventing harmful packets and the list goes on.
But so what? Did i change anything?
So is my idea bad behavior or bad manner?
Quetzalcoatl.Valli
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1420
By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-24 16:08:07
Quite a few people do it. Not many admit to it. Just like everything else.
It's not not bad, it's not wrong. If you're transferring, then by all means you should buy up everything cheap and sell it on the new server for more money.
If you were going to change server for (reasons other than money) I'd do it.
If you were changing servers specifically to make money, then it'd be RMTing. But all this is, is semantics.
This is how many people make mythics. paying $36 to gain access to a supply of alexandrite and coming back. That's textbook RMT.
By Pantafernando 2015-01-24 16:11:58
Is it bad to buy stuff from one server and bring it back to another server to sell?
It's basically "legal" RMTing. You're paying square to server transfer to make gil, aka buying gil.
My dilemma is bringing a mule from my old server to where I transfer to. So either way I am going to pay another transfer. Now if I can go back to my old server with profit that's not a bad idea.
Was asking if people think this is rude or bad behavior or players don't approve of this.
I think its bad behavior exploiting alex cheating, using flee hack in dynamis, delve, stun botting, cure botting, duping, rmting, preventing harmful packets and the list goes on.
But so what? Did i change anything?
So is my idea bad behavior or bad manner?
Its nothing wrong.
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6052
By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2015-01-24 16:38:05
if paying to transfer is RMT, paying to have a bazaar mule is rmt
paying to have a $1 mule to hold additional gear is rmt
paying your own account fee is RMT
don't be stupid, making profit from transfers still requires planning, investment, and has potential loss.. it's not that much different than playing the buy/resell game on your own server, just has more potential
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