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 Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-18 20:40:56  
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I'm sorry, but when you take a step back, and compare the amazing Tuchanka Sequence, and then the Priority: Earth II Sequence, you have to ask if Bioware even made the latter.

Everything else aside, this.

Tuchanka was the best-done sequence I've seen in a long, long time.

Mordin is hands down my favorite character, due respect to Garrus and Wrex for being utter badasses.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-18 20:41:28  
and even if a ***ton of the races who where at the battle site die... there are still the people on their home planet/moons. its not like everyone came to help out in that battle. especially if you didnt care and got ***war assets. in which there are still plenty of people alive and going to thrive.

also the very end proves that they survived.... because the old guy was *** telling the kid the story of the "past"
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-18 20:42:22  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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I'm sorry, but when you take a step back, and compare the amazing Tuchanka Sequence, and then the Priority: Earth II Sequence, you have to ask if Bioware even made the latter.

Everything else aside, this.

Tuchanka was the best-done sequence I've seen in a long, long time.

Mordin is hands down my favorite character, due respect to Garrus and Wrex for being utter badasses.

was a very fun/sad sequence and a great one.

i liked the quarian/geth sequence as well. but i agree that the krogan sequence was probably the best put together

Edit: Mordin died in my game but he was still a boss. love how he sang at the end...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-04-18 20:44:17  
Of all the arguments to why Turians/Quarians/Krogan would be able to fly back to their home planet, you didn't point out that the Quarians and Turians can produce and share food aboard the Liveships.

You obviously have a tentative grasp of Mass Effect lore at best.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-04-18 20:47:56  
I guess they can make a 'Mass Effect 4: The Odyssey' where everyone tries to get home after the great war is over.

The first act can be a huge fight over which way to go.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-18 20:57:12  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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I'm sorry, but when you take a step back, and compare the amazing Tuchanka Sequence, and then the Priority: Earth II Sequence, you have to ask if Bioware even made the latter.

Everything else aside, this.

Tuchanka was the best-done sequence I've seen in a long, long time.

Mordin is hands down my favorite character, due respect to Garrus and Wrex for being utter badasses.

was a very fun/sad sequence and a great one.

i liked the quarian/geth sequence as well. but i agree that the krogan sequence was probably the best put together

Edit: Mordin died in my game but he was still a boss. love how he sang at the end...


Err...wait. He can -not- die? It seemed so...organic. Poignant.

Is there a way to keep him alive and still have both him and you do the "right thing," so to speak?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-18 20:59:42  
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-18 21:07:22  
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Of all the arguments to why Turians/Quarians/Krogan would be able to fly back to their home planet, you didn't point out that the Quarians and Turians can produce and share food aboard the Liveships.

You obviously have a tentative grasp of Mass Effect lore at best.

because i didn't really have to? everyone should know that at least the quarians had a means to produce food for themselves on theirs ships since that is where they live 24/7 (besides when on their pilgrimage)

also its not like I'm going to try and pull out every fact about the ME universe for this,,, i honestly don't care that much.

Also you can save mordin but you have to do it renegade style. you had to kill wrex and listen to the salarian councilor who told you to not tell mordin that the cure wouldn't work because of sabotage.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-04-18 21:27:21  
related but...

The Voters Have Spoken: EA Is Your Worst Company In America For 2012!
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By Asura.Domz 2012-04-18 21:32:24  
just chimin in to say, during that sequence when the allied fleets began the push for earth (note breaking canon, as just the quarian flotilla takes up to 3 weeks for the flotilla to pass through a relay) i didnt see any of the quarian live ships show up, the ships that they actually produced food on. infact, i only recall seeing asari, turian, and human ships. no geth, quarian, batarian, or salarian.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-18 21:36:46  
Ah sweet mass effect 3 is coming out? :D
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-04-18 21:42:13  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Of all the arguments to why Turians/Quarians/Krogan would be able to fly back to their home planet, you didn't point out that the Quarians and Turians can produce and share food aboard the Liveships.

You obviously have a tentative grasp of Mass Effect lore at best.

because i didn't really have to? everyone should know that at least the quarians had a means to produce food for themselves on theirs ships since that is where they live 24/7 (besides when on their pilgrimage)

also its not like I'm going to try and pull out every fact about the ME universe for this,,, i honestly don't care that much.

Also you can save mordin but you have to do it renegade style. you had to kill wrex and listen to the salarian councilor who told you to not tell mordin that the cure wouldn't work because of sabotage.


This just sounds like a cop-out to me. "I didn't say because everyone knows already, and I don't care.

Also, I was mostly referring to the fact that Turians and Quarians share the same Dextro-amino DNA that would let them travel and allow cohabitation for the journey.

I've just had too much time to think about it. I just really *** hate EA for strangling the life out of another beloved franchise. There is no artistic call, it wasn't thoughtful and deep and sooper complex. It was EA wanting a shitty ***nondescript buttfucker ending that left enough herp for them to derp every year from here until the end of time. Goddammit.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-04-19 23:32:03  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
See this is what i mean by you guys didnt play the whole game and learn about the universe.

All those ships "most" have the ability to fly to different solar systems. the Alliance dreadnaught can fly across them in a couple months.

there were most likely heavy losses anyways. who knows how many are alive.

Also the alliance dreadnaught isnt even the fastest ship. quarians and turians have better ships. they will all be fine.

They didnt need the mass relays but it made traveling a lot faster...

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FTL drives are devices which allow ships to travel at FTL speeds through space. FTL drive cores work by exposing element zero to electric currents, creating mass effect fields. It reduces the mass of an object—such as a starship—to a point where velocities faster than the speed of light are possible. With a mass effect drive, roughly a dozen light-years can be traversed in the course of a day's cruise.

The precise maximum speed and the time this acceleration can be maintained varies depending on the exact type of FTL drive being used. In general, the larger the drive, the longer the ship can run at FTL.

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FTL codex entry (ME3): The amount of Eezo and power for a drive increase exponentionally to the mass being moved and to the degree it is being lightened. Very massive ships or very high speeds are prohibitively expensive"

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Element zero FTL drives accumulate a static electrical charge when a vessel has been in FTL flight for some time. This charge steadily increases with the amount of time a vessel spends in FTL. Eventually, it must be discharged. The safe method involves discharging into a planet's magnetic field (for large ships, incapable of planetary landings) or actual surface contact (in the case of smaller vessels). Space stations and similar structures which are not located near planets are usually equipped with their own discharging facilities; the Citadel has dozens of these.

If the drive charge cannot be discharged, it will eventually accumulate to the point at which it discharges into the ship's hull. The heat will fry everything inside; fusing the bulkheads, destroying the electronics and killing all the crew members.

Ok so the basic FTL is 12 Light Years Per day. Lets just asume that its about 50 LY per day for the sake of argument.

The Milky Way is 100,000–120,000 LY accross. Traveling for 50 LY per day without stopping to get more Element Zero/discharge the FTL drive core OR pickup supplies like food - 1 Year = 18250 LY at 50 LY a day.

Tuchanka is about 15000 LY away give or take. You are looking at the Krogan on their own taking at LEAST THREE HUNDRED DAYS. Remember this isnt including mining more Element zero, getting food, discharging drive cores, etc.

Rannoch is about 80000 LY away give or take. You are looking at the Quarian taking at LEAST 4 years and 1/2. Once again this doesnt include obtaining more Element Zero, getting food, discharging drive cores, etc.

Mass Relay Coden extry (ME3): "This allows instantaneous travel between locations normally seperated by years or even centuries by conventional FTL drives."

Also you are asuming that during these long journeys they will be able to find planets or other bodies so they can discharge the drive codes. This is why interstellar travel through unknown space can be hazardous. Having to discharge your core but being unable to means certain death and destruction of your ship.

Ok but asuming these codex entries are wrong - tell me more about the ME universe since I obviously havent immersed myself in the lore.

Also - in regards to the "stargazer" old guy scene. Its unknown whether the guy was on a planet that was in a system with a mass relay or was a descendant of someone who was on a colony and so they didnt get wiped out. Its completely up in the air what happened.

Basically you are starting to sound like a troll at this point. Good day sir.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-19 23:40:20  
Who cares about the people who fought in the war?!?! you say it like they are the only survivors... even if the krogans, Turians, and all the other races don't make it back to their planets.

There are still plenty of planets that didn't get attacked by the reapers, and there were still krogan left on their home planet and turians left on theirs.

There were also still quarians on their home planet trying to get all that ***reconstructed.

so even if everyone who went to fight the reapers die... ( except whoever lives on earth/the moon/mars.. there are still plenty of people alive.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-19 23:41:32  
And the stargazer guy. it proves that the news and most of what happened reached him.. he somehow got the "Detailed" information about what happened.

Edit: and even though i enjoyed the story and the ending. I will still disappointed that the 3 ending were basically the same... there was really no "ok you chose this and this is how it effected the future and here is a cs"

I get that the ending was lackluster and required imagination on my part to fill it in. but i still enjoyed it
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-20 00:07:41  
btw i don't think you understood so i will point it out,

they don't need to obtain more Element zero... element zero doesn't deplete... did you mean fuel?
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2012-04-20 00:42:48  
You guys do know Mass Effect 3 was only a game right....?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-04-20 00:52:10  


mass effect 3's ending in a nutshell...
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-20 00:54:10  
Ramuh.Scizor said: »
You guys do know Mass Effect 3 was only a game right....?

I do which is why I'm not pulling out guns and telling bioware they are raping my life and that they need to change the ending.

Though telling a ME fan that its just a game is like telling a star trek fan its just a show... It doesn't work. since they (like me) get immersed in the story.

I understand why they are upset, The ending was lackluster. But over exaggerating everything and making it seem like its the end of the world isn't the right thing to do.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-04-20 00:54:48  
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<3 egoraptor, and might check out those other guys too....
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-20 00:58:54  
Also this is mostly off topic but sort of relevant.

I think that if the future consoles do negate used games from being played that game company/developers make spend more time on the game and make them better.

Because lets be honest. Not many people will spend 60 dollars on a game that they aren't sure is going to be good. Most will wait for the reviews and if the reviews aren't great and they demo (if there was one) didn't sell them completely they will most likely just pass it up.

You guys think the same? Or you think its just wishful thinking on my part? Though i personally would only buy a game i was on the fence about if friends told me it was worth it. "It was ok" most likely wouldn't fly for 60 bucks.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-04-21 18:42:09  
Ramuh.Scizor said: »
You guys do know Mass Effect 3 was only a game right....?

This is a pretty stupid point, just sayin.

Sports are just "games" yet that doesn't stop the industry from being a multi-billion dollar venture with people carving out careers doing nothing more than commenting on guys and gals competing. How are video games any different from sports, movies or any other medium of entertainment?

That being said, the ME3 ending was unsatisfactory and fans are voicing their opinions.

And now to lighten the mood:

Makes me laugh every time.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-04-21 19:09:11  
Almost reason enough to let Mordin die in Mass Effect 2.


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By Phoenix.Zekky 2012-04-21 19:14:34  
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Almost reason enough to let Mordin die in Mass Effect 2.


^

I was curious who'd take Mordin's spot if he died in ME2... Too bad Mordin doesn't have lines like this in his awkward fast stop and go speech.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-04-21 19:18:56  
Mordin got his awkwardness out of the way in Mass Effect 2. Ah, Sex Ed with Dr. Mordin Solus. that was lovely.
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By Phoenix.Zekky 2012-04-21 19:23:30  
I didn't like Sex Ed when FemShep(my wife's character) and Garrus were getting it on... He was talking about Turian-Human sex porn and special anti-chaffing lubrications... So awkward... *-*;;;
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-04-21 19:31:42  
Consumption of Turian tissues can trigger anaphylactic shock in humans. Don't...consume.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-21 19:58:18  
All the characters in mass effect were great but Mordin was one of my favorites.
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