So I'm coming back from a break, not playing very much and trying to work with the gear I have access to to make a 5-hit. I was wondering how these two sets where for TP and Fudo, the TP set has sadly not capped haste but would it be worth it? Hopefully Askar +5 will help my gimp *** a lot with it's amazing STP and haste head.
Sam Gear Lvl 99
Sam gear lvl 99
swap out the varangian helm for a mekira oto, or shura +1 if you want to risk it for strong augments. if you have the money justiciar's torque does great for fudo. also pretty sure you dont need -that- much stp in the ws set, try switching ammo for thew.
just my 2 cents
just my 2 cents
To actually 5-hit that TP set for Fudo, you need to swap out Pole Grip to Rose Strap, and upgrade to AF3+2 body.
With Rose Strap you can use Thew Bomblet and Unkai mantle for WS.
Schatzie covered the slots for WS set, though Mekira-Oto would be best majority of the time for Fudo.
Getting ATK/TP Bonus augments for Moonshade would be a good upgrade aswell for both Fudo and Shoha.
With Rose Strap you can use Thew Bomblet and Unkai mantle for WS.
Schatzie covered the slots for WS set, though Mekira-Oto would be best majority of the time for Fudo.
Getting ATK/TP Bonus augments for Moonshade would be a good upgrade aswell for both Fudo and Shoha.
Odin.Zelphes said: »
To actually 5-hit that TP set for Fudo, you need to swap out Pole Grip to Rose Strap, and upgrade to AF3+2 body.
With Rose Strap you can use Thew Bomblet and Unkai mantle for WS.
Schatzie covered the slots for WS set, though Mekira-Oto would be best majority of the time for Fudo.
Getting ATK/TP Bonus augments for Moonshade would be a good upgrade aswell for both Fudo and Shoha.
With Rose Strap you can use Thew Bomblet and Unkai mantle for WS.
Schatzie covered the slots for WS set, though Mekira-Oto would be best majority of the time for Fudo.
Getting ATK/TP Bonus augments for Moonshade would be a good upgrade aswell for both Fudo and Shoha.
It's a 5 hit yeah, just very far from ideal.
My bad, I totally missed that Goading belt!
However, if you apply the changes I mentioned above, and swap out Goading for Bullwhip - you still have a perfect 5-hit for Fudo/Shoha.
There is no reason for you to stay @23% haste when you can achieve near-capped haste while maintaining same amount of stp if you put in some effort.
Assuming both hit lands, you can use Avant+1 pants or augmented Shura haidate+1/Hachiryu haidate for Shoha too - depending on your wallet. Fudo will need AF3+2.
The changes I pointed out will make your sets very acceptable. And they are quick upgrades to make.
However, if you apply the changes I mentioned above, and swap out Goading for Bullwhip - you still have a perfect 5-hit for Fudo/Shoha.
There is no reason for you to stay @23% haste when you can achieve near-capped haste while maintaining same amount of stp if you put in some effort.
Assuming both hit lands, you can use Avant+1 pants or augmented Shura haidate+1/Hachiryu haidate for Shoha too - depending on your wallet. Fudo will need AF3+2.
The changes I pointed out will make your sets very acceptable. And they are quick upgrades to make.
Ok so I finally split my tp sets into hasso up/down sets. My hasso down set is pretty much ideal for now.
But my hasso up set is being mega *** blocked by usu feet and currently looks like this.
So my question is will it be worth swapping to hasso up/down sets yet or should I just stay in my hasso down set until I have finished usu feet/z-tiara combo?
But my hasso up set is being mega *** blocked by usu feet and currently looks like this.
So my question is will it be worth swapping to hasso up/down sets yet or should I just stay in my hasso down set until I have finished usu feet/z-tiara combo?
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
Ok so I finally split my tp sets into hasso up/down sets. My hasso down set is pretty much ideal for now. But my hasso up set is being mega *** blocked by usu feet and currently looks like this. So my question is will it be worth swapping to hasso up/down sets yet or should I just stay in my hasso down set until I have finished usu feet/z-tiara combo?
The only time to use your first set is if you have neither Hasso nor Seigan up. Which should be very seldom. Ace's body is really a WS only peice for SAM.
You also have excess stp in your "hasso up" set. You can switch to Atheling/Unkai back and you can switch out either the neck or the ranged piece.
Thanks, will keep hasso down set on the off it happens as SAM is my only melee job so space is not an issue.
Going to probably stick unkai sugemino back in for hasso up then and will decided on neck/ammo a bit later as I still dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.
Going to probably stick unkai sugemino back in for hasso up then and will decided on neck/ammo a bit later as I still dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.
Avant +1, twilight, ??? Until I can get Aces's to drop? My Byrnie needs to be retired feeling so gimp.
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Avant +1, twilight, ??? Until I can get Aces's to drop? My Byrnie needs to be retired feeling so gimp.
Avant+1
Why are people still using 90 Masa's? Didnt know it was the cool thing to use inferior weapons but perfect gear. TPbonus or gtfo people.
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Phoenix.Deboro said: »
Why are people still using 90 Masa's? Didnt know it was the cool thing to use inferior weapons but perfect gear. TPbonus or gtfo people.
/fail if you truely believe that
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
That right there is the reason why CORs think it's ok to give their party tactician's roll. I'm not going into great detail as to why Chaos or Fighter's is superior to Tactician's, feel free to believe what you want, but either of those rolls would be the better choice.
As for COR, it's a very simple procedure. They can give the party the superior buff first, then miser's, then later they can give themselves tactician's.
As for COR, it's a very simple procedure. They can give the party the superior buff first, then miser's, then later they can give themselves tactician's.
This.
Tacticians is a downtime roll. That's about it. COR is my 2ndary. It rips me apart when I see Misers/Tacticians. If your COR is giving himself Tacticians to increase his own WS output, they're doing their job wrong because they have 5 other party members to consider. Not to mention, they can roll their own buffs later on. If your COR can't keep up a minimum of 3 11's......they suck.
Fupafighters said: »
W.e you say...your obviously smarter than every other cor out there. Because 95% of them do tacts/misers because they're dumb. W.e you say >.> Preference says tactician's.
Yes,
Yes they are dumb.
Infact, I'll call them nublets. Born and fed Abyssea nublets straight off the Abyssea nipple.
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Tactician's is vastly inferior as a second roll. Either fighter's or chaos depending on if you are capped atk or not.
Shouldn't most DRKs, WARs, SAMs be close to capping attack regardless in VW? RCB and tonic, not to mention berserk, last resort, etc.?
Almost seems better to just stick with Miser's/Fighter's.
But on topic,
I'll post the Shoha set I'm working on ATM. I can carry most of my STR/Att gear over from Ruinator. Just need help with a few minor spots.
Almost seems better to just stick with Miser's/Fighter's.
But on topic,
I'll post the Shoha set I'm working on ATM. I can carry most of my STR/Att gear over from Ruinator. Just need help with a few minor spots.
Phoenix.Wackatramp said: »
Shouldn't most DRKs, WARs, SAMs be close to capping attack regardless in VW? RCB and tonic, not to mention berserk, last resort, etc.? Almost seems better to just stick with Miser's/Fighter's. But on topic, I'll post the Shoha set I'm working on ATM. I can carry most of my STR/Att gear over from Ruinator. Just need help with a few minor spots.
DRK can on most mobs. WAR,SAM etc will not on the harder fights.
Chaos is still beneficial in my experience on ig-alima and botulus rex(for DRK even).
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Chaos is still beneficial in my experience on ig-alima and botulus rex(for DRK even).
Depends DRK/WAR has insane attack. DRK/SAM would benefit a ton from Chaos. I can post some parses if you want, but DRK/WAR can cap or get extremely close.
anybody have a good amano spellcast with aftermath up/down rules?
Chaos would help said SAMs and WARs cap though, especially with a DRK in the group.
Does anyone have a rough estimate of ig-alima and other VWNMs def/vit?
I've been told 600 Def for harder mobs, but never saw any testing for it.
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I'm sure I'm a nooblet for asking this, but why have two different sets for Hasso up/down? I can't see how the STR/accuracy bonus makes a difference in how you gear, and I thought the haste bonus is in a different category than equipment haste.
Sylph.Malizia said: »
I'm sure I'm a nooblet for asking this, but why have two different sets for Hasso up/down? I can't see how the STR/accuracy bonus makes a difference in how you gear, and I thought the haste bonus is in a different category than equipment haste.
Its for the hasso/zanshin effect, while some pieces really shine with hasso/seigan up, when its down they loose a lot of effectiveness. An example of a time you would use a hasso down set is a fight where buffs are constantly being wiped like isgebind. (Can probably keep hasso up for that also as it does not spam it like crazy but its just an example)
I only decided to make one recently because I had all the gear to make the down set but its not really a must have set.
Unkai Domaru +2 is probably the only "Hasso up" set you will set.
Having said that, an extra 2.5% hasso rate, not including it will overwritten by multi-hit proc, would be a minimal increase.
Having said that, an extra 2.5% hasso rate, not including it will overwritten by multi-hit proc, would be a minimal increase.
Any suggestions on a set for someone with no Rose Strap/Usu boots?
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Any suggestions on a set for someone with no Rose Strap/Usu boots?
idk where to go with my sam atm, still have a few things to buy.. stp ammo and a lot of ranks to go before rose strap
my sets
TP1
mala->houyi/af3 neck
atheling->misuuchi kappa
centaurus->unkai earring
i THINK you may need to ws in af3+2 pants + aftermath to maintain 5 hit with that
my ideal set. swapping brego for dusk, and houyi for nodowa if acc needed. usukane shoes > aces if you have them, too
ws1 if for kaiten:
byrnie->avant+1 or aces mail
anguinus->beir+1
ws2 if for shoha
warwolf->windbuffet or ele belt if need acc
tmail-> same as above, aces way better if you can manage one
mala->ele gorget (pretty sure it > mala)
flame pearl -> tp bonus moonshade if wotg finished
if someone can find flaws in my advice, please by all means correct me
mala->houyi/af3 neck
atheling->misuuchi kappa
centaurus->unkai earring
i THINK you may need to ws in af3+2 pants + aftermath to maintain 5 hit with that
my ideal set. swapping brego for dusk, and houyi for nodowa if acc needed. usukane shoes > aces if you have them, too
ws1 if for kaiten:
byrnie->avant+1 or aces mail
anguinus->beir+1
ws2 if for shoha
warwolf->windbuffet or ele belt if need acc
tmail-> same as above, aces way better if you can manage one
mala->ele gorget (pretty sure it > mala)
flame pearl -> tp bonus moonshade if wotg finished
if someone can find flaws in my advice, please by all means correct me
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