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 Cerberus.Agreian
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By Cerberus.Agreian 2012-12-27 20:54:31  
I might've did it wrong, but for the Kaiten set, I'm only coming up with 16.8% TP return and 18.3% for Shoha if both hits land.
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By Asura.Res 2012-12-27 21:11:23  
Cerberus.Agreian said: »
I might've did it wrong, but for the Kaiten set, I'm only coming up with 16.8% TP return and 18.3% for Shoha if both hits land.

Nah you're right, but I'm getting 20.8% return per hit.
20.8*4 = 83.2+16.8 = 100 tp on the dot, set to be a true 5hit even if just the first hit of shoha lands
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By Cerberus.Agreian 2012-12-27 21:18:30  
Huh! I'll be damned... Nice sets... Hope you don't mind, but I think I might copy your sets lol Tyvm!
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By Asura.Ccl 2012-12-27 21:29:32  
Asura.Res said: »

Have a true 5-hit

Both sets assuming amano AM is down, would swap in ogiers over AF3+2 for kaiten set otherwise

Kaiten


You don't need to Kaiten in AF3+2 when AM down, Kaiten AM apply on the ws that activate it.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-27 22:29:25  
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This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:


Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2

Why is usu somen+1 not better than that for head slot? You're not losing haste, and gaining 4% DA, no? I saw you posted usu was 2nd place, but why exactly? I know it's somewhat devaluing the OaT function, but you have tenryu tekko +1 there, so I felt the need to ask.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2012-12-27 23:04:40  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:


Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2

Why is usu somen+1 not better than that for head slot? You're not losing haste, and gaining 4% DA, no? I saw you posted usu was 2nd place, but why exactly? I know it's somewhat devaluing the OaT function, but you have tenryu tekko +1 there, so I felt the need to ask.

That's correct. If you're gaining absolutely nothing from the attack or accuracy, Usukane +1 is better(assuming set haste even scales in its favor). I posted it as an all around TP set that will probably be used most out of any set, though.
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By Cerberus.Fthis 2012-12-29 11:59:26  
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:


Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2

Why is usu somen+1 not better than that for head slot? You're not losing haste, and gaining 4% DA, no? I saw you posted usu was 2nd place, but why exactly? I know it's somewhat devaluing the OaT function, but you have tenryu tekko +1 there, so I felt the need to ask.

That's correct. If you're gaining absolutely nothing from the attack or accuracy, Usukane +1 is better(assuming set haste even scales in its favor). I posted it as an all around TP set that will probably be used most out of any set, though.

ejiin, i know the NQ salvage set (such as usukane's set effect with 5% haste) does not work like this, but do you think you can get the set effect from HQ salvage pieces with just 2 pieces? even if it is just a small upgrade. i'm just asking based off of your experience using the 2 pieces (usukane body and usukane feet +1) together, what vibe do you get from using them both, are they satisfactory for arch dynamis lord, or odin v2 perhaps?

for example, afv3 set effect, with 2 pieces you get a minimal set effect bonus but with all 5 pieces you get the max bonus for the set effect.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-29 12:17:34  
Cerberus.Fthis said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:


Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2

Why is usu somen+1 not better than that for head slot? You're not losing haste, and gaining 4% DA, no? I saw you posted usu was 2nd place, but why exactly? I know it's somewhat devaluing the OaT function, but you have tenryu tekko +1 there, so I felt the need to ask.

That's correct. If you're gaining absolutely nothing from the attack or accuracy, Usukane +1 is better(assuming set haste even scales in its favor). I posted it as an all around TP set that will probably be used most out of any set, though.

ejiin, i know the NQ salvage set (such as usukane's set effect with 5% haste) does not work like this, but do you think you can get the set effect from HQ salvage pieces with just 2 pieces? even if it is just a small upgrade. i'm just asking based off of your experience using the 2 pieces (usukane body and usukane feet +1) together, what vibe do you get from using them both, are they satisfactory for arch dynamis lord, or odin v2 perhaps?

for example, afv3 set effect, with 2 pieces you get a minimal set effect bonus but with all 5 pieces you get the max bonus for the set effect.


2 pieces = 3% haste, Ejiin was the one who tested it.

Its unknown how it will scale from there, I'm sure Ejiin will have a 3rd piece in a day or so.

AF3+2 scales by 1% each piece you have up to 5% (obviously)
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By Cerberus.Fthis 2012-12-29 12:28:51  
awesome.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2013-01-07 13:06:27  
Looking for some advice on my TP set. Don't have Mythic/empy/relic so not sure how much the sets posted on the last few pages would change for me.

TP
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-07 22:07:23  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Cerberus.Fthis said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:


Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2

Why is usu somen+1 not better than that for head slot? You're not losing haste, and gaining 4% DA, no? I saw you posted usu was 2nd place, but why exactly? I know it's somewhat devaluing the OaT function, but you have tenryu tekko +1 there, so I felt the need to ask.

That's correct. If you're gaining absolutely nothing from the attack or accuracy, Usukane +1 is better(assuming set haste even scales in its favor). I posted it as an all around TP set that will probably be used most out of any set, though.

ejiin, i know the NQ salvage set (such as usukane's set effect with 5% haste) does not work like this, but do you think you can get the set effect from HQ salvage pieces with just 2 pieces? even if it is just a small upgrade. i'm just asking based off of your experience using the 2 pieces (usukane body and usukane feet +1) together, what vibe do you get from using them both, are they satisfactory for arch dynamis lord, or odin v2 perhaps?

for example, afv3 set effect, with 2 pieces you get a minimal set effect bonus but with all 5 pieces you get the max bonus for the set effect.


2 pieces = 3% haste, Ejiin was the one who tested it.

Its unknown how it will scale from there, I'm sure Ejiin will have a 3rd piece in a day or so.

AF3+2 scales by 1% each piece you have up to 5% (obviously)


3 pieces of usu+1 is 6% haste bonus. It's 3 for 2 and 6 for 3 pieces worn. I think this was discussed in another thread (maybe the mnk tp lvl 99 thread?).
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-07 22:25:24  
Looking at these sets because I'm far too much of a peasant to own Tenryu+1 or Phos+1.


TP

20.7TP/hit
~25% Haste


Fudo

17.2TP return


Shoha

17.6TP return (both hits land)


Comments?


edited as per Lleweyn's suggestions
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By Shiva.Paulu 2013-01-07 22:39:29  
That's pretty much what I'm shooting for too. As far as the TP set goes.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-01-08 00:50:18  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Your TP set is actually 20.7 TP/hit. In your Fudo set you should swap AF3 legs to Ogier Breeches, Omodoka Sune-ate to Saotome Sune-ate +2 and Hagneia Stone to Thew/Potestas Bomblet.

Other than that, great sets~
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-08 00:54:39  
Derp, forgot the STP on unkai mimikazari. Will swap around the fudo stuff too, hadn't considered saotome feet+2. thanks~
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2013-01-08 17:17:29  
Why unkai back over atheling for Shoha? Am I missing something? o.O
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-01-08 17:18:58  
Atheling's better, but it's such a miniscule difference I didn't feel it necessary to point it out.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-01-08 17:21:22  
Though I probably should've mentioned Prosilio over Beir +1 for the uncapped attack Fudo set, also!
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2013-01-08 17:23:46  
Ok just wanted to make sure, I was curious about the belts as well but I've been told both are good.
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By Ramuh.Pyromaster 2013-01-09 14:00:45  
trying to improve my SAM and iv got NNI gear now, i use TP bonus GKT i was wondering what is the best TP set possible with this weapon and how much STP would i need on WS to keep x-hit build?

this is the set im currently using:


even though i have nni gear im not sure which pieces are good to use on SAM, also i normally used mars ring instead of tyrant since i was good on STP but i sold it and didnt know what would be better to use but was thinking to use the 1% DA ring from AH "ambuscade ring"

this is my ws set
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-09 14:05:44  
Pyro, I meant to READ the daggone thread >_<. Not just copy/paste your post from the other one. All of your TP question answers are in the thread probably within the last 3-4 pages man.
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By Ramuh.Pyromaster 2013-01-09 15:43:20  
looked back till page 33, people are talking about masamune and amano
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-09 15:55:56  
lol it's on page 32.... also they talk about it on page 7. Just read man, It's not hard to skim through until you see a weapon set posted >_<
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2013-01-09 17:58:29  
Ganesha's mala and Windbuffet for Shoha to start. Atheling back, Moonshade earring with Att/TP bonus Phorcys hands. Idk about TP set with that GK though and about to start doing Akvan so can't math out the stp needed for 5hit /shrug.
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By Asura.Gippali 2013-01-10 12:20:44  
Hello All,

Long time reader of the forums, just have not posted very often. I would just like to post my equipment sets to see how I stand so far. I have a general idea of items that I need to upgrade, but it is always nice to have some reassurance that I am heading in the correct direction.

I have had Amano for sometime now, it is currently still at 75 though...need to work on those trials! I also do not have a NNI group to roll with for Phorcys so I do not have them in my sets. I also need to work on obtaining the TP bonus earring for my sets as well.



TP:



I know that I currently sit @ 24% haste. Until Phorcys I plan on obtaining Zelus rose/usu feet. Working on those three items currently.

Kaiten:



I have been in a toss up between Beir +1 and Prosilio's. Leaning towards Prosilio's just for the added att if it isn't capped. I have Ogier's legs but unsure if they outweigh Unkai's perks.

Shoha:



Mala is holding out on me, but I know that I do need that! I kinda just threw J torque in there, but I should be using gorget correct?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

~Gip
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-01-10 12:28:34  
TP: Bushi is pretty garbage now, just drop it and get suppa
Use Unkai earring, brego hands, Zelus. With Amano you can drop some STP when comparing it to Masa. (AM from Kaiten,2hit Shoha)

Kaiten: Use Ogier legs, get a 3-4STR earring (capped attack) or centaurus earring for uncapped. Mekira-oto (+1) head

Shoha: TPbonus Moonshade (biggest must have), 2nd Pyrosoul (if gil/xhit allow) Mekira-oto (+1) head.

If you don't plan on taking Amano to 99, then start working on Masamune. 95 Amano isn't very impressive.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-01-10 12:31:23  
Asura.Gippali said: »
I have been in a toss up between Beir +1 and Prosilio's. Leaning towards Prosilio's just for the added att if it isn't capped. I have Ogier's legs but unsure if they outweigh Unkai's perks.
Yup, Prosilio for uncapped attack. Elemental Belt for capped attack. I haven't bothered mathing out your STP but if you don't need the STP on the legs then certainly go with Ogier's legs.

Asura.Gippali said: »
Mala is holding out on me, but I know that I do need that! I kinda just threw J torque in there, but I should be using gorget correct?
Correct. Elemental Gorget for now.
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By Asura.Gippali 2013-01-10 12:51:59  
Thanks for the quick reply Taint and Llewelyn.

TP: I know I need to change bushi too. Will also switch to brego (Dusk +1 were my first big item back in 06 so I still like to use/have them for that reason rather silly I know >.>).

Kaiten:

I had totally spaced out about the STR earring for Kaiten and Mekira for head. I will switch Unkai to ogier's for legs. and will change to Prisolio's belt

Shoha:

Right moonshade is a must and I will get another Pyro's. I will also switch to ele gorget too.

I do plan on taking Amano to 99 in the future. I currently am using Masa (85) until I finish working on trials.

Thanks again for your input!
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-01-10 13:00:39  
I'd say you have this figured out then!

SAM is my current flavor of the month, let me know if I can help!
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By Asura.Gippali 2013-01-10 13:46:05  
Thanks Taint!

Ohh and I was thinking of doing a Kabuto +1 since I have the abj collecting dust in my mog. Only worth it if I can cap att and have the +3%'s on it?
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