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 Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-07-21 00:51:18  
i have to yell at people not to spam bio2 for proc hints half the time :\
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-21 00:52:20  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Most likely. I don't remember anyone casting Dia II, ever. Also, would it be appliable to Kaiten 90-95, or not? That's my other concern.
Probably not. You need 99 for the 40% last I bothered to check, or Fudo, Fudo is also better than Shoha in capped attack scenarios.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-07-21 00:58:43  
Yes, 25% doesn't cut it, unfortunately. I'll see about capping ATK and Fudoing the next time I go, if it can be done without Dia II, it's all good.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-21 01:08:17  
Ah yeah, in my situation (realistic at that) Kaiten will be better if you're using a 99.

If you're using Shoha, refer back to my other post.
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By Siren.Snakegod 2012-07-25 02:25:34  
haveing a hard time decided what to use for kaiten/shoha for neck justicar torque or elemental gorget whats your opinion
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-07-25 08:15:30  
Siren.Snakegod said: »
haveing a hard time decided what to use for kaiten/shoha for neck justicar torque or elemental gorget whats your opinion

Shoha = Mala
Kaiten = Justicar
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By Asura.Daichi 2012-07-26 09:46:40  
Back after a long while and was browsing through this thread, for the tp bonus GK is this the set i should be going for?

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/169910
if not what is best at the moment?

also, anyone have a optimal ws set?
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-08-06 18:07:07  
Using this ATM:

TP: No Phorcys head atm, do I need to keep the Haidates on in order to benefit of Hasso augment or just Hasso in em and switch?
In that Case Haidate+2 and Zelus :(



Shoha: waiting on Phorcys Hands



Any Advice? :D
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2012-08-07 03:50:59  
Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
...do I need to keep the Haidates on in order to benefit of Hasso augment or just Hasso in em and switch?

You have to keep them on. ^^
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By Sophea 2012-08-07 15:20:29  
So, I was trying to do some outside the box thinking with TP gear, and worked out a set that caps haste and allows 5-hit (4+ws) given Amano's aftermath. I got back a few months ago, so I'm not up to date on a lot of the gear trends and realize this might be /doingitwrong. Thoughts?



Edit: This set was more me trying to figure out if a capped haste scenario was possible sans Phos +1, I know the same can be achieved with the above, swapping out body/hands/belt for unkai+2/tenryu+1/phos+1, but how would this set compare?
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By Fenrir.Dahlen 2012-08-07 15:36:36  
Sophea's tp set is pretty good, similar to mine.... but i dont have ogier's gloves yet =/ i use brego hands+phorcy feet
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-07 16:01:55  
Porthos body is fail on SAM. Ogier's hands are pretty gimp in general esp on a job that has access to ample STP like SAM.


The general easy to get TP set is:


Upgrades would be Phos+1,Tekko+1
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By Fenrir.Dahlen 2012-08-07 16:26:23  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Porthos body is fail on SAM. Ogier's hands are pretty gimp in general esp on a job that has access to ample STP like SAM.


The general easy to get TP set is:


Upgrades would be Phos+1,Tekko+1



you're right, i should work on my "enhance zanshin" build... way way better than TA+%... gimp my acc for zanshin to proc! TY Taint!!!
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By Fenrir.Frobos 2012-08-07 16:28:31  
Are you saying a zanshin build is optimal for samurai in every aspect of this game?
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By ArieusKismet 2012-08-07 16:29:30  
Taint you're a moron.
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By Fenrir.Dahlen 2012-08-07 16:29:46  
Fenrir.Frobos said: »
Are you saying a zanshin build is optimal for samurai in every aspect of this game?



<3
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-08-07 16:32:07  
the *** just happened in here
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-08-07 16:32:42  
I can't tell if these guys are being serious.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-08-07 16:33:34  
I was going to remind people that may not be aware of the long ago Zanshin update but I changed my mind. lol

Fenrir.Dahlen said: »
you're right, i should work on my "enhance zanshin" build... way way better than TA+%... gimp my acc for zanshin to proc! TY Taint!!!
This right here is what's leading me to believe it's a troll. You do realize Taint's set has more accuracy, right?
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By Fenrir.Frobos 2012-08-07 16:38:24  
I seriously would like to know though. If you're capped on accuracy, why are you building into zanshin? Unless I'm missing something. I don't play SAM, but I am curious.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-07 16:39:43  
ArieusKismet said: »
Taint you're a moron.


Prove me wrong :p

You should always have Hasso or Seigan up, both JAs benefit from a Zanshin build.


Edit: did i get trolled ><
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By Fenrir.Dahlen 2012-08-07 16:40:08  
NOT everyone uses food to cap accuracy on samurai. Is that why they depend on Zanshin? im lost, please explain.
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By Odin.Hirokei 2012-08-07 16:43:58  
Zanshin can proc without missing while Hasso is up..
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By Fenrir.Frobos 2012-08-07 16:51:15  
Oh herro prz tank you.
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2012-08-09 05:12:54  
Is Zanshin+10 really much better than TripleAttack+2 ?
Zanshin +10 is roughly 2.5% Hassanshin rate which gives the TP of triple attack, but only the damage of double attack. Not that I normally care about melee damage, but am I forgetting something?
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-08-09 06:21:32  
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Is Zanshin+10 really much better than TripleAttack+2 ?
Zanshin +10 is roughly 2.5% Hassanshin rate which gives the TP of triple attack, but only the damage of double attack. Not that I normally care about melee damage, but am I forgetting something?

I thought it was a little more tp than triple attack but it's been a while since I have played or commented on anything now. A zanshin swing also gets a +30acc boost.

It also requires less landed hits to get you that tp. I.E first landed hit then + second landed hasso/zanshin hit. Where a trip att proc needs all 3 to land but this is me being pedantic as SAM is a pretty accurate job anyway. Only thing that beats hasso/zanshin is Quad att or so I believed before I took my break.

Edit: Grammar as it was early and the acc boost is +35 on a zanshin swing.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-08-09 06:23:18  
How do current day SAM's playing the job not know about hasso/zanshin as it was singularly one of the greatest buffs SE gave to the job!

Unless this is just a troll and I have fallen for it D:

Edit2: This was not aimed at you ecke, was more a general statement if it came across as rude.
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By Valefor.Thioo 2012-08-09 06:54:15  
Random question, I failed and never got myself a Rose Strap but I'll have an Amano in a few days >.>; Until I get myself the strap what would be the optimum build? Have most everything else minus Phos +1 and Tenryu stuff.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-08-10 02:27:17  
Valefor.Thioo said: »
Random question, I failed and never got myself a Rose Strap but I'll have an Amano in a few days >.>; Until I get myself the strap what would be the optimum build? Have most everything else minus Phos +1 and Tenryu stuff.

How far are you through WoTG? As I finished that first (for moonshade) then bashed out campaign as you don't loose rank then.

Remember this question coming up earlier in the thread. Will take a look to see if I can re-find the best non-rose strap build. Gimme a sec.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-08-10 02:51:18  
Well flicking through the thread I realized Nemesio asked the same question about 6 times with no solid answer. Not going to go loads into it as I have to run. But if you have the "ideal" set up minus rose you could just swap to unkai neck and usu feet. This should 5 hit you as long as you WS in unkai haidate +2. But without seeing your sets I can't be much more help sorry.

Rose is pretty much a must have item for SAM in this day and age so get it done ;). Compared to other SAM tp items such as the dreaded mala... once WoTG is completed and with all the additions to campaign it's not so bad anymore. =)
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