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 Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-28 08:06:35  
I've done limited runs so far, but I've not been dissapointed with 99 Amano's performance thusfar.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-28 08:12:49  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I've done limited runs so far, but I've not been dissapointed with 99 Amano's performance thusfar.
Just curious which were you primarily using Shoha or Kaiten?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-04-28 08:38:16  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I've done limited runs so far, but I've not been dissapointed with 99 Amano's performance thusfar.


99Amano is vastly superior to 95Amano so not suprising at all.

I'm sure he's using Kaiten.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-04-28 09:15:54  
The 99 Amano is a tremendous difference over the 95. Anywhere I can cap attack I can't get Shoha to beat Kaiten unless multihits proc like windbuffet's. Kaiten has its place, and Nyzul is one of them.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-04-28 12:36:14  
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Just a quick question rheic body+2 > aces mail? Or does it need to be +3/phorcys?

Never going to use the +2/3 as it would just highlight my failure to get to 100 ;)

who cares. back to question >.>
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-04-28 12:56:26  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Just a quick question rheic body+2 > aces mail? Or does it need to be +3/phorcys?

Never going to use the +2/3 as it would just highlight my failure to get to 100 ;)

who cares. back to question >.>


Whats the WS damage% on +2?

+3 or Phorcys are both outstanding options.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-04-28 12:57:58  
not exactly sure but it looks like 3%
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-04-28 13:12:00  
Shiva.Paulu said: »
The 99 Amano is a tremendous difference over the 95. Anywhere I can cap attack I can't get Shoha to beat Kaiten unless multihits proc like windbuffet's. Kaiten has its place, and Nyzul is one of them.

if i had 99 amano i would most definately use that in Nyzule. atm rocking 4hit stardiver build. pretty happy with it.

btw, our group has 3sams 1 drk. we've hit 100 2x in the last week. just throwing that out there lol. i think luck/good players matter a bit more than what job you come to nyzule tbh.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-04-28 14:21:12  
Stardiver looks pretty fun. It's like the old days at birds. R.I.P tomoe. Is Draca Couse still our best option for pole? I haven't really kept up since abyssea.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet but sam does bring Warding Circle and Hamanoha to the table. There are lots of Imps and Soulflayers around. Floor 100 boss is also a demon.
I'm in no way saying this justifies actively seeking a sam to join, but if the sam knows their ***than its a noteworthy bonus.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-04-28 14:28:49  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Just a quick question rheic body+2 > aces mail? Or does it need to be +3/phorcys?

Never going to use the +2/3 as it would just highlight my failure to get to 100 ;)

who cares. back to question >.>

Pretty obvious the +3 and phorcy's would beat ace's and depending on food/buffs +2 would also.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-04-28 14:31:26  
Yes it is obvious thats why i didnt ask about the +3/phorcys.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-04-28 14:35:43  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Yes it is obvious thats why i didnt ask about the +3/phorcys.

That's the second time you have been rude for no reason lol. Figured I would go through them all (except lol+1)
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-04-28 15:28:31  
Irony in the fact his name is Vicious. lol
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By Asura.Aravlis 2012-04-28 15:31:36  
Anyone mind posting their Polearm TP/WS sets? I've not looked into SAM polearm since 75.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-04-28 18:54:00  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Probably a 95 Amano. 99 Amano should be pretty sweet on Nyzul like content.
Worse, 90. Wish Kaiten was an option :(

I don't know if Draca Couse is the best polearm, it's just the highest base damage SAM has (112) along with a 480 delay, decent combo at least.

Until I can upgrade to 99 *cough*
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-04-28 18:57:50  
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
Shiva.Paulu said: »
The 99 Amano is a tremendous difference over the 95. Anywhere I can cap attack I can't get Shoha to beat Kaiten unless multihits proc like windbuffet's. Kaiten has its place, and Nyzul is one of them.

if i had 99 amano i would most definately use that in Nyzule. atm rocking 4hit stardiver build. pretty happy with it.

btw, our group has 3sams 1 drk. we've hit 100 2x in the last week. just throwing that out there lol. i think luck/good players matter a bit more than what job you come to nyzule tbh.
fk you I wanna come mnk lol
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-04-28 21:42:23  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
Shiva.Paulu said: »
The 99 Amano is a tremendous difference over the 95. Anywhere I can cap attack I can't get Shoha to beat Kaiten unless multihits proc like windbuffet's. Kaiten has its place, and Nyzul is one of them.

if i had 99 amano i would most definately use that in Nyzule. atm rocking 4hit stardiver build. pretty happy with it.

btw, our group has 3sams 1 drk. we've hit 100 2x in the last week. just throwing that out there lol. i think luck/good players matter a bit more than what job you come to nyzule tbh.
fk you I wanna come mnk lol

Lol'd
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2012-04-29 10:05:10  
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
If i had 99 amano i would most definately use that in Nyzule. atm rocking 4hit stardiver build. pretty happy with it.

Is Stardiver really better than Tachi: Shoha with a 480 delay GK?
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-04-29 11:23:20  
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
If i had 99 amano i would most definately use that in Nyzule. atm rocking 4hit stardiver build. pretty happy with it.

Is Stardiver really better than Tachi: Shoha with a 480 delay GK?

Ep mobs yes. Just swap to gkt for bosses. If we didn't have to constantly move and run around then I would wear amano to make use of the delay difference.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-05-05 03:45:21  
How would Gigantes Boots compare to Unkai Sune-ate +2 in attack capped situations for Fudo? I plugged them in Motenten's Spreadsheet and while the 'WS damage' increased, the 'Overall DPS' lowered. Is this because of the Conserve TP on AF3 feet which, when occurs, the overflow TP would beat the extra 3 STR on Gigantes? Or is this just an error in the spreadsheet.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-05 04:15:20  
Ll, don't forget that the unkai also have a lot of acc+. Tachi:Fudo is flippin notorious for missing when it rightfully shouldn't lol.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-05-05 04:16:05  
The target was a fodder mob and using Aggressor. I don't think accuracy is a problem.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-05 15:13:19  
Why would you care about fodder mobs then? They are just that... just fodder mobs that nobody has any troubles with.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-05-05 15:15:14  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ll, don't forget that the unkai also have a lot of acc+. Tachi:Fudo is flippin notorious for missing when it rightfully shouldn't lol.
not really

Odin.Eikechi said: »
Why would you care about fodder mobs then? They are just that... just fodder mobs that nobody has any troubles with.
Because there's a lot of content for which efficiently killing fodder mobs is your basic goal. Dynamis, Einherjar, and Neo-Nyzul for example, and soon the new Limbus floors.

And yes, that would be a result of the Conserve TP. I can't speak for the accuracy of the result since I'm not looking at the spreadsheet right now, just that it would be the cause.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-05-06 13:03:19  
Asura.Aravlis said: »
Anyone mind posting their Polearm TP/WS sets? I've not looked into SAM polearm since 75.

Curious about this as well. Just put together this set quickly to see what is easily obtainable as I work on getting Neo-Nyzul pieces and better. Please rip me apart for all the stupid choices I may have made/over looked lol



EDIT: Went for an easy 5 hit, looking over some stuff should I be aiming for a 4 hit?
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-05-06 13:16:41  
Siren.Mcclane said: »
Asura.Aravlis said: »
Anyone mind posting their Polearm TP/WS sets? I've not looked into SAM polearm since 75.

Curious about this as well. Just put together this set quickly to see what is easily obtainable as I work on getting Neo-Nyzul pieces and better. Please rip me apart for all the stupid choices I may have made/over looked lol



EDIT: Went for an easy 5 hit, looking over some stuff should I be aiming for a 4 hit?

Been wondering this myself. Will post another set with what "maybe" an improvement. Not thought about polearm TP sets in a very long time lol.

Mine will probably be a 5 hit also as I have never ever looked into 4 hitting anything.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-06 13:19:46  
I don't think there's a way that you can make a 4-hit worth it tbh, unless I'm overlooking something.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-05-06 13:26:52  


Something like this maybe for TP? Was very quick and not using any speadsheets. Just sort of winged it :3
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-05-06 13:43:34  
Could probably keep in pole grip actually just put rose in out of habit.

Hachiryu haramaki is just sex if stp or haste is not needed on a body as you retain some hasso zanshin and gain +5% crit and a dash more att/acc when using polearm over unkai domaru +2.

Edit: This is just my thoughts when making the set :s
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-06 13:47:05  
21.9 TP/hit with that TP setup. What does your Stardiver set look like?
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