Sam Gear Lvl 99

So Ogy legs are useless, even for sam?

The AF3+2 legs were to maintain a 5-hit. Sorry for not clarifying.

also, don't forget about polearm for events on sam. definately acceptable and beats out tpbonus gkt if you do it right.

i rock 4hit polearm build using stardiver for dyna/nyzule. only time i really use gkt 100% is during vw. (unsure about legion, haven't done it yet, and the drops there aren't really good enough to make me want to either lol)


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ogy legs are great for kaiten, specially when paired with phorcy's body :Q

But Ghal, kaiten needs/has a pretty decent STR mod too. See I thought Ogy legs were best (even for shoha, because windbuffet is great for that and diminishes the DA on avant anyways) if you could maintain your x-hit without using AF3+2 (I use AF3+2 atm anyways because VW is stingy with drops I want)

rather than derail that rng thread more id like to bring the discussion here.

tp:

upgrades: hagneia stone, mala, and tyrant.

no luck with mala, and i dont kill hahava very often. other gil items i have yet to purchase cause most of my gil goes to buying heavy metal plates. and dd food. but i do plan on getting them, be it from the vwnm or the hksnm or eventually with gil.

ws(shoha):

upgrades: mekrira hat(+1), mala, tp bonus earring, strigoi/ pyrosoul, and windbuffet.

same reason for the gil items in the tp set. overall im working on them. my friend has a pop for the vamp that drops the ring, and i hope it has a shadow and it drops said ring but we havent gone to kill it yet. the wotg earring needs to be remade. between work and event ill need to find the time for it. fights not hard from what i remember.

and to address some ppl from the other thread who said something about my sam:


do you mean my average ws dmg or percent i was wsing to meleeing?

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i dunno why my acc is low, honestly i use rcb+1 for dmg, i should i be eating pizza +1? there is no negative acc in my tp set so food has to be it.

i use 90 masamune because its good weapon. ive read numnerous times that it is still a good weapon in comparison to tp bonus and amano. should i be using tp bonus? imo, with all the tp overflow of vw and dusty wing, it seems like a waste. i dunno maybe you can tell me otherwise. oh and also two of my three atmas are tp bonus atmas. should i not be using them also? if not what other atmas are good for sam?

many things were said in the other thread also about 2hrs. but really, isnt it good that we can kill watcher consistantly without most two hours?

Is many things wrong with your shoha set some gil items some very cheap ones too, mala doesn't get much use w/o a total rebuild of tp set save the stones... with out slamming you there are a hundred post + topic on shoha there is no need to repost these yet again.


Also why the true 5hit(didn't look just assmuming from the gear) w/ regain assuming you use. Can gain a lot of attack/acc fairly easy, as for why such a low melee acc on higher tier VW you probably need to add some acc in w/o a relic.


Just my opinion, I'm sure some mathleat will be along shortly.

@Zellc Not sure if you have one already and just never posted it but it's worth making a fudo set also seems you are using Masa.

The only weapons beating Masa90 are:

In order Mythic,99Masa,99Amano,95Masa

Pretty sure there's a lot of math out there showing TP Bonus 100 GKT beats Masa 90.

Pretty sure I did most of that math.

Then why are you saying Masa 90 beats GKT TP Bonus +100? :o

usually only use it for its sc properties or a 300tp ride, but this is what i have going for it atm


dont see too many beir+1's on ah for this server. also im not too sure if its better than the ele belt, id have to dig back through previous posts.


thank you for verifying that. i knew i read in one of your past posts that it was still a decent weapon to use.

Kinematic's spreadsheet has tp bonus winning over 90 masa

Whats the setup?

I'll have to double check it after class, but post the best set up for masa 90 and I'll just go ahead and plug that in since I'm sure you'd gear it better than I anyways.

Beir+1 is the best unless some new shinier belt has come out since I have missed.

It's also worth using when pDIF is capped so EP mobs or if mega buffed and depending what you are fighting.

I thought this was mostly in VW before the save tp nerf? where you hardly had to even tp with it.

That's what I thought as well, pre save TP nerf inside VW.

Thats exactly right. I can't get TPbonus to beat Masamune at all now.
It wins in WS damage but gets slaughtered in TP damage.

The spread sheet doesn't account for stuff like 300tp starts, Sekka bonus, Haga, Konzen, stuff that favors Masamune.

What about these sets?
- Regular (20.4 a hit)
- With Regain (19.9 a hit, everything else the same)

Does Mala really outperform Rancor for TP?
*Unsure of what to use in the ear slot, alternated from Kemas to Light, thinking of getting the new G +1 earring*

I was doing it for Neo Nyzul rather than VW. I don't do much of VW at all. I thought you just meant universally

@Savain

That grip is terribad! Much better off with rose/pole or the new +3% DA one but rose > all for SAM. Other things like nyzul 100 head also.

As for rancor vs mala I will always lean towards mala as I solo on SAM but 2% QA would increase WS freq. also.

Edit: Also missed the earring question but I use bushi (as no DW jobs) but the new one with 7att/3acc (I forget) would be awesome too. If you picked up usu feet or nyzul 100 head would probably have to swap it to unkai earring anyway.

Fodder content with Embrava? With TP accumulating constantly? That should all favor Masamune greatly. Not to mention with capped Attack Fudo > Shoha.

Lol like I said just give me a set.

I keep them on my item sets sry

Yea, fudo build is winning on weaker mobs but tp bonus closes the gap and gains as you get to tougher mobs (keeping the same gear sets and swapping mobs on the list), but keeping in mind for nyzul, you'll 1shot a lot of things and have TP every time you engage a mob, which is going to favor WS portion of your damage to melee (aka less dmg coming from ODD and melee swings)

But keep in mind that every TP over 100 you have favors Masa more and TP Bonus less.

Masa definitely rapes over TP bonus in Nyzul, I'm pretty sure Tigerwoods agrees.

5 Mobs in a room, ODD rocks, Konzen Fudo can 1 shot NMs. Boss floors ODD is doing work. And you constantly sit on TP due to running,embrava and lamp floors all which favor Masa.

Unfortunately I run with 2 SAMs in my Nyzul group, one with Masa and one with TPbonus. I personnaly think SAM sucks for Nyzul but thats my bias opinion.

Genuinely curious, as I've only ever been WAR for Nyzul, but SAM seems attractive for a number of reasons(mainly being able to self SC). What makes you say SAM sucks for nyzul?