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Fuzzy Pants Yes or No?
Bahamut.Cuelebra
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-10 15:44:09
ok so currently this is my tp set
however i see a lot of thfs tp in fuzzy pants (calmecac)..
i cant figure a way to get 26% haste w/o using rapidus and using calmecac or should i not even bother...
my parses on VT crawlers in rolanberry fields(s) show that the top is better. any advice?
Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-09-10 15:52:31
The 3% TA on triplus alone beats the 2%TA/2%DA on calmecacs, let alone the higher base damage/TA damage, and the crit rate you are losing from AF3 legs. Go with the first set.
edit: also, you'd be better off using triplus in the second set anyways (if it was even better than the first set), as the 3% TA is much better than 0.2-0.4% haste you get from rapidus.
Cerberus.Freonski
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By Cerberus.Freonski 2011-09-10 16:03:32
Usually use triplus main hand when needing thf knife over Kila+2, but this is what I had set and didn't want to change it.
Leviathan.Haberym
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By Leviathan.Haberym 2011-09-10 16:12:19
Cerberus.Freonski said: »
Usually use triplus main hand when needing thf knife over Kila+2, but this is what I had set and didn't want to change it.
This set is -far- from optimal.
ok so currently this is my tp set
This set is the better of the two, but look into Dusk Ledelsens +1 if you dont need the acc.
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Bismarck.Eburo
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-09-10 16:13:56
Leviathan.Haberym said: »Cerberus.Freonski said: »
Usually use triplus main hand when needing thf knife over Kila+2, but this is what I had set and didn't want to change it.
This set is -far- from optimal.
Aside from cape, ranged, and offhand, am I missing something?
Leviathan.Haberym
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By Leviathan.Haberym 2011-09-10 16:15:33
The feet, the hands, and the combination of gear you stated, no.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-09-10 16:16:48
You shouldn't TP in AF3 feet, as they provide no benefit but set proc(rare and not worth relying on). I would go
Cavaros >> Atheling
Feet >> Ballerines/Ryuga Sune ate/Dusk+1
Hands >> AF3+2
Bismarck.Eburo
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-09-10 16:17:20
Leviathan.Haberym said: »The feet, the hands, and the combination of gear you stated, no.
Oh, forgot about +2 gloves, my bad :X
Leviathan.Haberym
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By Leviathan.Haberym 2011-09-10 16:21:17
Leviathan.Haberym said: »The feet, the hands, and the combination of gear you stated, no.
Oh, forgot about +2 gloves, my bad :X
It should be like this:
Which is a pretty big difference.
Bismarck.Eburo
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-09-10 16:23:29
Leviathan.Haberym said: »Leviathan.Haberym said: »The feet, the hands, and the combination of gear you stated, no.
Oh, forgot about +2 gloves, my bad :X
It should be like this:
Which is a pretty big difference.
Looking at my THF after this one makes me think "I'm bad and I should feel bad". This is close to my ideal setup I had in mind though.
Just prioritizing other jobs atm :P
Cerberus.Freonski
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By Cerberus.Freonski 2011-09-10 16:40:34
Leviathan.Haberym said: »This set is -far- from optimal. That would be the set I used when I'm in a group with friends and just stacking TH, if I'm dbing one of my own weapons (wouldn't I be on NIN?) I use this set. Thanks for your opinion tho, I think.
And to be honest, as of late, I prefer cav mantle and raider's earring.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-09-10 16:44:44
I Can't see 3% Critical hit Damage beating 20 Attack and 3% Double Attack.
So Cavaros is out of the picture... I tend to use Raider's Earring inside Abyssea... Though I'm relatively certain 34% to 35% Triple attack is probably not better than 5% Dbl to 10% Dbl.
Bahamut.Cuelebra
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-10 16:46:16
Leviathan.Haberym said: »This set is the better of the two, but look into Dusk Ledelsens +1 if you dont need the acc.
ok so curious are calmecac good for any jobs besides drk and rdm tp?
I Can't see 3% Critical hit Damage beating 20 Attack and 3% Double Attack.
So Cavaros is out of the picture... I tend to use Raider's Earring inside Abyssea... Though I'm relatively certain 34% to 35% Triple attack is probably not better than 5% Dbl to 10% Dbl.
umm i think its the sacrifices u need to make in other slots to keep that 25~26% haste that do it. cause i couldnt get 26% haste w/o using ballerines and rapidus. unless i use zelus >.>
Sylph.Kiaru
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-09-10 16:47:23
Maybe BRD if you don't need the 2% extra haste from haidate or the ~15 acc.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-09-10 17:11:20
ok so curious are calmecac good for any jobs besides drk and rdm tp? I've seen a good amount of DRG using them lately. Since DRG AF3 legs dont have haste, the alternatives are... Ace's, Homam, Bestia
Bahamut.Echojin
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By Bahamut.Echojin 2011-09-10 17:15:10
Maybe BRD if you don't need the 2% extra haste from haidate or the ~7 acc.
Best brd tp legs atm!
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-09-10 17:39:32
ok so curious are calmecac good for any jobs besides drk and rdm tp? I've seen a good amount of DRG using them lately. Since DRG AF3 legs dont have haste, the alternatives are... Ace's, Homam, Bestia Jingangs hose also i belive drg can use?
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2011-09-10 17:49:31
Bismarck.Moonlightespada said: »ok so curious are calmecac good for any jobs besides drk and rdm tp? I've seen a good amount of DRG using them lately. Since DRG AF3 legs dont have haste, the alternatives are... Ace's, Homam, Bestia Jingangs hose also i belive drg can use?
Yeah but the Dbl/Tpl attack destroys str and vit from Jingang lol
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-09-10 21:19:36
Tiercel Necklace will cap your haste too. The 5% dmg increase on crit hits vs 1%(cap) haste...? I'm not sure of the difference, but it is another option of gear spot and much better than downgrading your headpiece. I would still use rancor for your ws, but as far as tp... It may be worth testing.
Carbuncle.Virtuosus
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2011-09-10 21:33:32
I thought it was estabished that this is the optimal set:
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By Sylph.Gredival 2011-09-10 23:08:22
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: »I thought it was estabished that this is the optimal set:
For Abyssea, yes, substituting Ryuga Sune-Ate for more evasive mobs.
Leviathan.Laphine
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By Leviathan.Laphine 2011-09-11 11:33:13
I can't think of any real situation where raiders is better than brutal. It would really need a crazy (unachievable) base TA rate to dethrone the gain from 5% DA (and 1 stp - lol).
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By Asura.Calatilla 2011-09-11 11:51:18
Out of curiosity, why dusk +1 and not homam feet?
Siren.Markii
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By Siren.Markii 2011-09-11 11:52:43
I think the reason you see THF (like me) using Calcemac's is simply they (me again) don't have the +2 legs yet.
Carbuncle.Virtuosus
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2011-09-11 12:00:08
Out of curiosity, why dusk +1 and not homam feet?
The set was made with capped accuracy in mind. Ryuga would be better than Homam if your accuracy was uncapped, on say a mob like Dragua? Or any evasive mob at that, not that there's much accuracy problems in Abyssea besides a few specific NMs.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-09-11 12:37:14
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »I Can't see 3% Critical hit Damage beating 20 Attack and 3% Double Attack.
So Cavaros is out of the picture... I tend to use Raider's Earring inside Abyssea... Though I'm relatively certain 34% to 35% Triple attack is probably not better than 5% Dbl to 10% Dbl. meh it's all situational. Cavaros would molest all other in slot items for a brewed evis against Rani as an example or a SATA WS
And maybe if you were using RR Apoc Lion and TA waist, raiders earring, calmecac + Triplus + Demonry ring to stack it all ridiculously high it might pull ahead of brutal idk, never tried.
48% TA Rate lol
The way he worded I was under the impression he meant for "TP Phase". Course Cavaros may have some situation... But i don't think its general TP :X
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Lakshmi.Kitrah
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By Lakshmi.Kitrah 2012-02-06 13:27:59
Forgive my ignorance, but why Dusk +1 feet over Relic +2 feet?
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-02-06 13:29:01
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ok so currently this is my tp set
however i see a lot of thfs tp in fuzzy pants (calmecac)..
i cant figure a way to get 26% haste w/o using rapidus and using calmecac or should i not even bother...
my parses on VT crawlers in rolanberry fields(s) show that the top is better. any advice?
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