Melee RDM

When any of you can put a dent in Hahava, Celeano, or Voidwrought, get back to me.

Melee is one aspect of a multifaceted job, but its not a relevant aspect in any serious event. RDM has extremely minor melee oriented abilities for the very same reason that DRK has minor enfeebling abilities: job lore. Nobody wants a DRK enfeebling during anything that matters.

Is it not similar to enlight/endark where it takes the divine/dark magic skill from the point it was used? If so you could macro in enhancing spells. And i agree tbh the only job i put my all into is DRK and PLD and its all i really know lmaoo

We all already agreed that RDM melee isnt optimal lol

Begs to differ

Lord almighty...

Why is everyone so obsessed with pointing out the obvious to those who can already see it.

That's part of the problem as I've heard it, is that enspell II's are calculated on strike rather than at time of casting.

I quoted someone in a post directly above yours who clearly 'doesn't see it'.

...Aaaaand we're back to HNM.

No.

No.

No. We are not asking to melee on HNM. We are not asking to melee in Voidwatch. We are not asking to melee 100% of the time, or on the NM's that not even actual DD melee on.

We are not going to melee on HNM the same way mage-only RDM's are not going to main heal on HNM's. Blah. This argument is old and tired, wore out and disproven ages ago.

And if my sentiments don't apply to you(which you're making clear they don't), pay them no mind.

Enspell 1 is based on enhancing skill at time of cast, Enspell 2 is based on enhancing skill at time of hit. It's easy to see why 2 fails most of the time.

my rdm has never seen a party meleed it to 85 had damn fun doin it too and my rdm will continue to be melee just like my whm i dont like healing lol

Edit: not trolling just enjoy doin it for some reason lol

For heaven's sakes... No, melee RDM is not a good DD. On anything like Voidwatch, you're actually going to want a RDM to play a RDM's support roles.

However, if you want to DD for smaller things like T1 NMs in Abyssea, then this is where some of us are trying to discuss how to best do that.


If you're in a solo melee situation then yes all your PDT is viable and a good idea. The idea, I believe, behind solo melee RDM is a survival game. In that case, you'll want a Cheviot/Umbra cape over your Atheling and a Shashmir +2 if you care to get one. There's a choice of goliard trews over Trousers as well. Walahra will almost always beat out Brisk in damage but you may want that defense? Also, if you're going for Sanguine survivability crap you'd probably want to go with /BLU with this set up. You should get all your weaponskills (if I'm not mistaken) along with cocoon and various other traits and tools. However, you can make adjustments to your PDT gear depending on how much you need/can sacrifice and can trade out Goliard(C.Trousers) > Cheviot/Umbra(Atheling) > Brisk(Walahra) and whatever else if it's worth it.

However, if you're with any other decent DD, there is no need to deal with all that PDT and you should stick to something like my previous set with the exception of switching ammo to lightning bow/thunder sachet/smart grenade/demonry core (thanks for those fixes btw :X)

EDIT: Added Demonry Core >_> thanks, I'm not all too fluent with ammo slots asides from Thew/Mantra/Qirmiz

Demonry core as well.

All sets are mostly optimal, barring mostly unreasonable/unnecessary upgrades(which should be obvious)

Inside TP w/ ACP body available:


Outside TP w/ ACP body available:


Inside TP w/out ACP body available:


Outside TP w/out ACP body available:


These are assuming that your accuracy is capped, as should be the case with most things inside Abyssea, and virtually all things you want to be in melee range against outside of Abyssea. Sub Rancor Collar for a +3 crit. rate Wivre Gorget from Tahrongi if the %DT+ is problematic.

Edit: ACP body w/ crit. rate and DW augments.

There are these new additions coming around the corner:






I'm curious as how they would fare in comparison to Dodu's listings

shoes are probably not ideal

almace/thatsword
zelus
goading
dusk+1 gloves/feet
calmecac pants

is 26% haste without a haste body

Perhaps that Store TP ring could make those feet usable

Then again replacing it from STR+6 from Strigoi is a bit of a loss :x

lol, cause what's haste without an almace?

Tell me something I dont know

lold 10/10 would read again

hornetneedle/that sword?

or thatsword+uthers grip

This.

ok

Well, if you don't have a good DD replacement for Goliard Body, the 4% double attack alone should out do Almace/Thatsword unless the TP drain is something amazing. Did the video show a 100% proc? Even with it en spell damage would be negated as well but perhaps I'm over rating it's potency.

Zelus 8%
New Feet 4%
Dusk/New Hands 4%
New waist/Speed 6%
Calmecac Trousers 3%
Almace 0%

That's 25% allowing you freedom of Crit/DW ACP Dual Wield body and Chimeric. I believe this would be the best combination including the gear from Quetzacoatl's post.

If there are any good hands/feet/legs that don't have haste and can replace Chimeric for the TP Drain 3%/4% sword, then be my guest to correct me.

Well, we can all definitely tell what the proc rate is from this video! /s.

Not sure it will be worth it, but it's useless predicting what the results will be at this point.

I'm not a marine biologist or anything but he drains enough tp to ws after 1 hit

Assuming they're not using those odd boosts they use for many of the videos I've seen, sure. At fan festival, for example, they took no damage and lost no MP when displaying the 3 new jobs from ToAU. If they had an extremely potent regain/permanent 300% TP I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. If the TP drain effect was that potent, it would be incredible, though.