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Seriosuly.. maint again?
 Fenrir.Ilax
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-11 18:47:25
Odin.Zicdeh said: I doubt anyone will be banned, at worst, they'll rollback the servers to before the first maint, I doubt that as well though.
People should be more informed and read ToS lol.
KB Article: 12451
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Quote: Exploiting bugs for personal gain is against the rules of FINAL FANTASY XI. However, there is no need to report another player to a GM unless you are the direct victim of their behavior. Please feel free to send an inquiry through the Square Enix Support Center by going to the FINAL FANTASY XI title page, locate the appropriate Knowledge Base article, select "Contact Us," then select "Bug Report. You may also send a report by selecting the Service & Support page from the PlayOnline Viewer main menu, then select "Support," "E-mail Support," then "Problem Report."
I can see some Q.Q coming lol, oh well most of the ban might just be a "warning" doubt they will perm ban for that one since it been fix quick and game not got hurt like it happen for salvage :P
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-07-11 18:47:32
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: Leviathan.Draylo said: Have they even done a rollback, like ever? Don't think they will.
They'll just let this glitch slide. It isn't like people got much time to play with it.
Bans would just give the wrong type of message in an era where SE is trying to connect with its base. any company that insists that they're "connecting with their base" starts with customer service, and from what's been going on with other issues this month, I can hardly accept that SE is serious about this
 Carbuncle.Nobusagi
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By Carbuncle.Nobusagi 2011-07-11 18:47:40
All i know is i'm very bored now and i have nothing to do till servers come back up which i right when i goto work /cry.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2011-07-11 18:47:52
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: Leviathan.Draylo said: Have they even done a rollback, like ever? Don't think they will. They'll just let this glitch slide. It isn't like people got much time to play with it. Bans would just send the wrong type of message in an era where SE is trying to connect with its base.
It IS SE, though.. They don't really use logic and probably wouldn't know the difference between the wrong and right type of message.
Ragnarok.Ruklin
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By Ragnarok.Ruklin 2011-07-11 18:48:18
The array of equipment sold by vendor NPCs in San d'Oria, Bastok, and Windurst has received major revisions. Furthermore, whether or not certain equipment will appear in a vendor's inventory will no longer depend upon the Conquest hierarchy.
I haven't read the last several pages. but did anyone notice this?
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-07-11 18:48:23
I wouldn't be surprised to see a roll back. I don't know if there's a precedent or not, but we'll see.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2011-07-11 18:49:05
Bahamut.Kujah said: Picked up my Aura of Adulation about 10 minutes before servers went down, ragequitting if they roll back!
And thank god it didn't happen during JoL!
lol, be funny if it did! Not really :P
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2011-07-11 18:50:13
If they roll back do they keep the logs? I.e. would I be able to use my item recovery from GM? >.>
Fenrir.Ilax
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-11 18:50:41
Ramuh.Krizz said: I wouldn't be surprised to see a roll back. I don't know if there's a precedent or not, but we'll see.
That sux if they do, got 11 fistule discharge before that crappy 5 min emergency warning.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2011-07-11 18:51:31
Fenrir.Ilax said: Ramuh.Krizz said: I wouldn't be surprised to see a roll back. I don't know if there's a precedent or not, but we'll see. That sux if they do, got 11 fistule discharge before that crappy 5 min emergency warning.
I dunno what that is, but it sounds disgusting.
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 18:51:55
I really doubt they would do a roll back. Would affect way to many people they didnt even know or use the cure glitch.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-07-11 18:52:00
Fenrir.Ilax said: Ramuh.Krizz said: I wouldn't be surprised to see a roll back. I don't know if there's a precedent or not, but we'll see.
That sux if they do, got 11 fistule discharge before that crappy 5 min emergency warning. It'd be simpler to ban than to do a roll back, I imagine. Alot less customer service calls
Fenrir.Ilax
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-11 18:53:17
Sylph.Liltrouble said: Fenrir.Ilax said: Ramuh.Krizz said: I wouldn't be surprised to see a roll back. I don't know if there's a precedent or not, but we'll see.
That sux if they do, got 11 fistule discharge before that crappy 5 min emergency warning. It'd be simpler to ban than to do a roll back, I imagine. Alot less customer service calls
True strike, anyway people should know better from time to time, wont be first time SE play the ban hammer for something like that.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-07-11 18:53:20
Well the fact that the maint is 4.5 hours makes me wonder. Either they're banning people, rolling back, or doing something else? I mean it shouldn't take this long simply to fix one glitch.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-07-11 18:54:19
Bismarck.Helel said: Well the fact that the maint is 4.5 hours makes me wonder. Either they're banning people, rolling back, or doing something else? I mean it shouldn't take this long simply to fix one glitch. Takes some time to review logs...
Lakshmi.Galvaya
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-07-11 18:54:47
If they ban. I feel bad for the people that were fighting an undead, and randomly tossed a cure.
By Quiznor 2011-07-11 18:55:00
Sylph.Liltrouble said: finarfin said: SE should BAN every douche/imbecile that ran out there to abuse of the glitch. They've done it before. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, and there's always gonna be someone to blow a glitch up til there're red flags all over the place
Would probably be me.I went out on PLD and cure bombed every single skele (and the NM over and over and over) in abyssea - grauberg :x
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2011-07-11 18:55:20
Bismarck.Helel said: Well the fact that the maint is 4.5 hours makes me wonder. Either they're banning people, rolling back, or doing something else? I mean it shouldn't take this long simply to fix one glitch.
That .5 is the time it'll take to fix the glitch. The remaining 4 hours will be a 4 hour GM free-for-all ballista.
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 Alexander.Starrman
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By Alexander.Starrman 2011-07-11 18:55:36
SE: "Ctrl F ......... 99,999"
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-07-11 18:56:30
SE can't band anyone for this. Casting cure on an undead mob ALWAYS did dmg, this time it just happened to do a little extra dmg and thats it.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 18:56:38
For all we know there is more then a single glitch that needs to be fixed. Also servers can be up before they say they will if they can find and fix the problems before hand. That has happened before.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-07-11 18:56:42
Quiznor said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: finarfin said: SE should BAN every douche/imbecile that ran out there to abuse of the glitch. They've done it before. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, and there's always gonna be someone to blow a glitch up til there're red flags all over the place
Would probably be me.I went out on PLD and cure bombed every single skele (and the NM over and over and over) in abyssea - grauberg :x Lol @ Quiz^^
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-11 18:57:06
Fenrir.Ilax said: Odin.Zicdeh said: I doubt anyone will be banned, at worst, they'll rollback the servers to before the first maint, I doubt that as well though.
People should be more informed and read ToS lol.
KB Article: 12451
KB Category: [In-Game/Game Contents]
KB Sub-category: [Rules and Policies]
Quote: Exploiting bugs for personal gain is against the rules of FINAL FANTASY XI. However, there is no need to report another player to a GM unless you are the direct victim of their behavior. Please feel free to send an inquiry through the Square Enix Support Center by going to the FINAL FANTASY XI title page, locate the appropriate Knowledge Base article, select "Contact Us," then select "Bug Report. You may also send a report by selecting the Service & Support page from the PlayOnline Viewer main menu, then select "Support," "E-mail Support," then "Problem Report."
I can see some Q.Q coming lol, oh well most of the ban might just be a "warning" doubt they will perm ban for that one since it been fix quick and game not got hurt like it happen for salvage :P
I fully understand that, but people exploit glitches and bugs on a daily basis, it's to their discretion if it warrants a ban or not, and I don't see the damage this exploit caused in it's brief life, as justification for any bans.
At best, you wind up with some mediocre gear from Hahava, at worst, you kill a Trial of the Magians mob faster. It's not like the Salvage dupe, where you literally created new items the server never intended to be created.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-07-11 18:57:55
4.5hours because they probably don't know exactly what caused the glitch.
Mass bans over a glitch that people could simply bump across by playing the game normally would be silly.
This game needs players to stick around, not for SE to purge people over a simple mistake on their part.
By Crytone 2011-07-11 18:58:07
Bismarck.Helel said: Well the fact that the maint is 4.5 hours makes me wonder. Either they're banning people, rolling back, or doing something else? I mean it shouldn't take this long simply to fix one glitch.
Or perhaps they are going to test the update fully before rolling the servers back up and do some analysis on the true impact it had in the few hours it was being used.
A roll-back is unlikely since, as someone else mentioned, they'd get a LOT of angry calls about it. Bans are also unlikely but more likely than a roll-back. There was so little time with this glitch that the damage is very minimal. A few people got a few drops and some exp/merits - that's about it. Overall it had very little impact on the game.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-07-11 18:58:12
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said: SE can't band anyone for this. Casting cure on an undead mob ALWAYS did dmg, this time it just happened to do a little extra dmg and thats it. SE can do whatever they want
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-11 18:58:58
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said: SE can't band anyone for this. Casting cure on an undead mob ALWAYS did dmg, this time it just happened to do a little extra dmg and thats it.
lol'ed at little but anyway they wont ban for who just mess with it, but they might for who exploited on NM.
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By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-07-11 19:00:33
Cerberus.Irohuro said: Bahamut.Echojin said: Cerberus.Lightvision said: 
is why maint again
damnit, how come whenever something awesome like that happens I never get to play around with it before they fix it.
WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THIS??
an lsmate got 17-23 rdm in an hour because of this glitch lol
and epic this was.. this, will never happen again. Take the few minutes of fame, b.c of this.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 19:00:38
Most glitches or exploits are done by something 2 or more actions to invoke the glitch to occur.
Curing an undead mob is playing the game as intended just the formula for whatever reason to do the damage was messed up.
its like saying that people should have been banned for using SA from the front when it was broken.
By Quiznor 2011-07-11 19:01:59
Sylph.Liltrouble said: Quiznor said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: finarfin said: SE should BAN every douche/imbecile that ran out there to abuse of the glitch. They've done it before. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, and there's always gonna be someone to blow a glitch up til there're red flags all over the place
Would probably be me.I went out on PLD and cure bombed every single skele (and the NM over and over and over) in abyssea - grauberg :x Lol @ Quiz^^
Wanted some SCH hands as well as put off getting the abyssite too long.Stored tp,popped it,did the WS,if it didnt proc him,i'd cast cure and 1 shot him.Except the time about 5 mins before the servers went down.I did freezebite,got a "light" hint,swapped to sword,was getting tp and he cast death on me >_> I just hp'd and a few seconds later,R0 for server down.Oh well,I had my fun!
Unless its for the Moogle Lotto... something musta really messed up with the update ^^;
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