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Seriosuly.. maint again?
Ragnarok.Zeyro
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5
By Ragnarok.Zeyro 2011-07-11 23:01:53
Asura.Krebons said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Asura.Krebons said: Bored... Got a xbox now CoD anyone? Vaporificbog271 (I know I have yet to change it yet) Hit me up I'm getting on now
Novaria : Check your inbox!
CoD, No thanks.
Halo, Yes, please.
Awww, I didn't get halo.. I liked it and all, but it got kinda boring after a month..
:( Sad face. I'm on now btw for anyone that wants to play!
Can't wait for Halo 4 \o\
サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Siren.Foxfire 2011-07-11 23:02:24
Odin.Maddii said: Cerberus.Lightvision said: [x]
is why maint again
how can this happen - i mean, for real, dont they test that stuff before implementing it? ....... People don't always expect a bug like this to occur. Moreso when the update wasn't directly updated with the actual spell itself.
Somewhere along the line, some part of code must've messed up and Cure became a holy smite for the undead. Was it intentional? No. Was it foreseeable? Of course not. But at least they saw it after and are fixing it.
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 256
By Asura.Krebons 2011-07-11 23:04:09
Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Asura.Krebons said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Asura.Krebons said: Bored... Got a xbox now CoD anyone? Vaporificbog271 (I know I have yet to change it yet) Hit me up I'm getting on now
Novaria : Check your inbox!
CoD, No thanks.
Halo, Yes, please.
Awww, I didn't get halo.. I liked it and all, but it got kinda boring after a month..
:( Sad face. I'm on now btw for anyone that wants to play!
Can't wait for Halo 4 \o\
No No, cant wait for CoD XD
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 842
By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-11 23:04:26
Sylph.Nikia said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Lakshmi.Snuffy said: They don't need pictures on a forum, they log everything everyone does, and all they'd have to do to find every player doing it is look in today's log after maint and ctrl+f every instance of 99999 damage and catch the vast majority of people. They do not log everything everyone does. There isn't enough server space in the world to do that.
They log the choke points of action that let them piece together events in hindsight: player trades, mail, looting, item destruction, certain mob death, etc.
They likely also have the ability to reach into clients and pull volatile client logs while connected, like most MMO's, in order to confirm things like harassment. Which can make them seem omnipotent, but only temporarily. At least that's how it worked on MMO's back when I was a GM/developer.
In the case of the Salvage dupe bug, they likely included specific logging of precisely the event in question well before they finalized the permanent fix, and then simply globally banned against everyone who popped up in that specialized log after X months.
But to log every movement, every weapon swing, every spell cast, every zone, etc would be logistically impossible.
I will say that with the amount of servers and HDD size avalible these days you can log every sigle event. I would not think most would be kept for longer than XX number of days. The problem is no one on our side knows how much SE does log nor how active they are to detect activity. I believe after nearly 10 years the GM(s) are pretty much there just so people have a sense of connection to customer service when they need them. I have made 3 GM calls in last month for certain issues, and like back in 04 there was that good olde "We need to investigate it" response while the action that caused the call went unchecked. Far as seeing client side to check logs or view data stored on your personal machine I strongly doubt they would do that. Considering minors do have access to the game and unless it is stated somewhere in the ToS I could see that being a huge issue. doubt very much... it could take more than 5 tbs daily aprox. to store all every single event on 1 server only from each user that moves/swings/kills/shouts, chats and stuff
Ragnarok.Zeyro
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5
By Ragnarok.Zeyro 2011-07-11 23:06:02
Siren.Foxfire said: Odin.Maddii said: Cerberus.Lightvision said: [x]
is why maint again
how can this happen - i mean, for real, dont they test that stuff before implementing it? ....... People don't always expect a bug like this to occur. Moreso when the update wasn't directly updated with the actual spell itself.
Somewhere along the line, some part of code must've messed up and Cure became a holy smite for the undead. Was it intentional? No. Was it foreseeable? Of course not. But at least they saw it after and are fixing it.
Can't expect people to test every possible bug. Of all the major things they probably tested, I doubt casting cure on an Undead type mob was high on the list.
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 47
By Asura.Dyablito 2011-07-11 23:06:31
Updates
Jul. 11, 2011 19:30 [PDT] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
All Worlds Emergency Maintenance Extension (Jul. 11)
The ongoing emergency server maintenance on FINAL FANTASY XI has been extended and will now be completed at the following time.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your patience.
[Date & Time]
Jul. 11, 2011 15:30 to 23:00 PDT
[Affected Service]
FINAL FANTASY XI
[Details]
This maintenance will address a bug which causes certain spells to inflict unusually high damage against undead-type enemies.
Check here...
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 309
By Odin.Venomous 2011-07-11 23:07:46
Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 104
By Shiva.Eldarias 2011-07-11 23:07:52
Is that another extension or what we already know?
サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Siren.Foxfire 2011-07-11 23:08:18
Shiva.Eldarias said: Is that another extension or what we already know? The latter.
Phoenix.Novaria
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 776
By Phoenix.Novaria 2011-07-11 23:09:08
Asura.Krebons said: Bored... Got a xbox now CoD anyone? Vaporificbog271 (I know I have yet to change it yet) Hit me up I'm getting on now
Novaria : Check your inbox!
aww I have an xbox but we don't have gold /cry (also going online with our xbox at all would be a REALLY bad idea >.>)
The only CoD I liked was world at war...I dunno why, it just hooked me like a fish, crazy right?
I'm not a fan of Modern Warfare (any of them) at all...to be honest I'm probably the world's worst FPS player but i do have a good time getting blown up once in a while lol
I'm not exactly on topic am I? sorry :(
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 309
By Odin.Venomous 2011-07-11 23:09:44
hmm any Netflix suggestions? I'm tired of shopping for furniture online.
Fenrir.Krazyrs
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 716
By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-07-11 23:11:19
more

via steam
gogo 8hr fix for a 2hr update >.>
Ragnarok.Zeyro
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5
By Ragnarok.Zeyro 2011-07-11 23:11:24
Go with the classics. Watch Hellraiser.
Odin.Venomous said: hmm any Netflix suggestions? I'm tired of shopping for furniture online.
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 116
By Shiva.Deadlydiva 2011-07-11 23:12:52
Odin.Venomous said: hmm any Netflix suggestions? I'm tired of shopping for furniture online. Sons of Anarchy ^^
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 309
By Odin.Venomous 2011-07-11 23:13:28
watched not too long ago & i got all of em on dvd, even though everything after hellraiser 3 sucked.
**edit**
soa is great but already caught up on that & prison break, plus heroes yada yada
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34
By Asura.Atharia 2011-07-11 23:13:55
Odin.Venomous said: Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
People are obviously over reacting about the banning nonsense. Oh how rumors grow so easily. Not that serious.
Bahamut.Serj
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6179
By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-11 23:15:17
Asura.Atharia said: Odin.Venomous said: Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
People are obviously over reacting about the banning nonsense. Oh how rumors grow so easily. Not that serious.
Inb4 75% of all accounts are temp banned when servers come back up. Even people who didn't log on.
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 842
By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-11 23:15:29
i ha Fenrir.Krazyrs said: more

via steam
gogo 8hr fix for a 2hr update >.> i have the pc version, the game is beautiful on max settings
Fenrir.Ilax
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 466
By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-11 23:15:37
Not surprise at all this emergency maintenance is extended, keep in mind how SE take 3 month just to add the option to remember atma, and how it fail to work properly.
Idk how mixup they spaghetti code are... but sound to me like is a mess, 4.5h to find the bug in the code then fix it without causing another bug then compile, then BACKUP ALL SERVER then update all server, then TEST, is for sure a too short delay, you can expect a good 8 to 12h to fix it that way...
To be honest, SE again took wrong decision, and should have just ROLL back the update and made this emergency update a 2h long max, and just release this update on next month. You know what going to insult me the most, is if they *** ROLL BACK the update @ JP time after screwing all NA play time trying to "quick fix it".
I seriously hope this wont happen...
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Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Atharia 2011-07-11 23:17:17
Bahamut.Serj said: Asura.Atharia said: Odin.Venomous said: Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
People are obviously over reacting about the banning nonsense. Oh how rumors grow so easily. Not that serious.
Inb4 75% of all accounts are temp banned when servers come back up. Even people who didn't log on.
That'd be awesome.
Bahamut.Serj
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6179
By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-11 23:18:13
Asura.Atharia said: Bahamut.Serj said: Asura.Atharia said: Odin.Venomous said: Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
People are obviously over reacting about the banning nonsense. Oh how rumors grow so easily. Not that serious.
Inb4 75% of all accounts are temp banned when servers come back up. Even people who didn't log on.
That'd be awesome.
I'd laugh.
Until I get perma banned =(
Carbuncle.Asymptotic
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2659
By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 23:19:24
"Hey guys, I curebombed 20 voidstones worth of Hahava and an entire party of +2 RDM hats before the servers went down, and I just got a message that I've been permabanned :'("
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 126
By Odin.Maddii 2011-07-11 23:20:03
if 75% of all players are banned, does that mean i can solo undisturbed in cape terrigan again?lol
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34
By Asura.Atharia 2011-07-11 23:20:08
Bahamut.Serj said: Asura.Atharia said: Bahamut.Serj said: Asura.Atharia said: Odin.Venomous said: Asura.Atharia said: Ragnarok.Zeyro said: Odin.Venomous said: People really think players will be banned? Way too much time on your hands and you're putting way too much thought into these things. Hate to see how /butthurt people will be on these forums if the servers were permanantly shut down.
This topic is filled with bored people. Bored people talk and speculate.
But honestly, I also doubt SE will ban for something like this. They're not that twisted. I hope.
Where's Krizz at when you need him to chime in with his one worded sentence commands. "Relax." lol why would a "relax" be needed?
People are obviously over reacting about the banning nonsense. Oh how rumors grow so easily. Not that serious.
Inb4 75% of all accounts are temp banned when servers come back up. Even people who didn't log on.
That'd be awesome.
I'd laugh.
Until I get perma banned =(
I'd be like...
"K" ( Sign Language is Cool btw)
サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Siren.Foxfire 2011-07-11 23:21:07
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: "Hey guys, I curebombed 20 voidstones worth of Hahava and an entire party of +2 RDM hats before the servers went down, and I just got a message that I've been permabanned :'(" That'd be impressive if done in about an hour or two. :v
Bahamut.Serj
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Posts: 6179
By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-11 23:22:05
I'd probably make a new account =(
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 126
By Odin.Maddii 2011-07-11 23:24:52
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: "Hey guys, I curebombed 20 voidstones worth of Hahava and an entire party of +2 RDM hats before the servers went down, and I just got a message that I've been permabanned :'("
if that would be true, and i dont think so, apart from the fact tons of lawyers would sue them to hell, they had to fire the whole developement team too if going to be consequent, lol.
Shiva.Rekx
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34
By Shiva.Rekx 2011-07-11 23:30:23
Just what if there was an another 3 hr extension today for this bug? lol What would all of your reactions be?
Carbuncle.Asymptotic
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2659
By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 23:30:52
Shiva.Rekx said: Just what if there was an another 3 hr extension today for this bug? lol What would all of your reactions be?
I'd go to sleep.
Unless its for the Moogle Lotto... something musta really messed up with the update ^^;
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