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 Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-09 12:31:38  
Hey folks. I'm looking to specialize a set specifically for Neo-Nyzul to increase my output.

WAR TP:


Ukko's:


I realize Wanion is the best, but I'm not holding my breath. I try and go once a day but yeah.

Any insights I would be grateful for.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-05-09 12:50:36  
Not sure if you just put it there just because, but the Throwing Tomahawk isn't needed. Should be using ravager's orb I'm pretty sure.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-09 12:52:26  
Yeah, I use Ravager's. I'll modify the WS set just for the sake of showing I do. Thanks.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-05-09 12:56:02  
Saying you will only will modify the WS set worries me. Please tell me you don't TP with the tomahawk as well
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-09 12:57:52  
It was more of a "Yes, I use Tomahawk in Neo when necessary." I only toss it on when I'm about to use Tomahawk.
 
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-09 13:05:31  
Josiahkf said: »
does nefarious beat Portus Collar for tping I'm wondering
Even if Portus is better, my Dynamises are locked unfortunately. :/ That's one avenue I couldn't chase down. I'd be interested to know though.
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By Leviathan.Egonn 2012-05-09 13:46:03  
Would huginn be the best ws legs for ukkos?
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By Kaerin 2012-05-09 20:39:53  


If your dDEX/Attack are not capped with this set it's most likely not worth using a heavy DEX set.

Leviathan.Egonn said: »
Would huginn be the best ws legs for ukkos?

Depends on what the augment on them is. But the answer is most likely no.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-09 20:55:26  
Anyone have any estimates about the average AGI range on Neo-Nyzul fodder mobs?
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By Bismarck.Stani 2012-05-10 14:13:12  
Montenten(n?)'s spreadsheets have fodder mobs listed as 87 agi, dynamis dc 90, then Bukhis 100. I'd say plan for 90 if you mean fodder fodder, or 95 if you expect a few EM-T's to sneak in.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 12:30:05  
Highest I can get as a Mithra without swapping into DEX merits then is 135 DEX, which is only 40-45 above AGI, using the WS set I posted above. Wanion would net me another 2, any ideas how to fill in the last three-to-eight?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-05-11 12:30:56  
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 12:40:11  
Does that last 15 in Nyzul? I've never tried.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 13:40:44  
Traditional:


Perks:
+19 STR
+23 Attack
+2% Double Attack
+2% Triple Attack
+1% Quadruple Attack
+.1 fTP

Cons:
110 DEX vs. 95 AGI = 2~3% crit rate
Total: 19% Crit Rate

dDEX:


Perks:
145 DEX vs. 95 AGI = 15% crit rate
+3% Crit rate
Crit DMG +4%
Total: 34% Crit Rate

Cons:
Perks of the first set
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-05-11 13:46:22  
The first set is better. You should consider Rancorous Mantle though.

-3 Attack, -3% DA, +5% Crit rate.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-05-11 13:54:47  
2nd set is also 34% crit rate, not 29%. It's also 14% crit damage.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 14:17:36  
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
2nd set is also 34% crit rate, not 29%. It's also 14% crit damage.
What's the 5% crit rate and 10% crit dmg I'm missing?
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-05-11 14:42:49  
af3 feet are +10% crit dmg
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 14:45:14  
They're in both sets though. I didn't list cumulative stats, only the variance between sets. Except for total crit rate.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-05-11 14:46:40  
AF3(3) Grip(3) Collar(3) dDEX(15) merits(5) base(5)

http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/DDEX#dDEX
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-11 14:52:09  
Bingo. Thanks. Forgot it in both sets, so it's really 34% vs. 19%. 39% vs. 24% if Rancorous is used in both sets.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-05-11 23:03:40  
Sorry if a little off topic, but had a question about dDex. A blu friend of mine was saying he was sitting with 83+95 dex. So according to bg's chart, vs. a mob with 110 agi (max you will ever encounter?) he will have a 33% -> ((83+95)-110)-35% crit rate from dDex alone. With merits (5) and chant du cynge 15% crit rate at 100 tp, thats 53% rate before mods from armor. Seemed excessive so just confirming thanks.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-11 23:06:33  
dDEX caps at 20%. 110AGI isn't necessarily the highest you'll ever encounter, either.

Maximum base critical hit rate before gear and weaponskill bonuses is 25% (20% from dDEX, 5% from merits)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-11 23:07:14  
dDEX caps at 15%. So he'd have 15% ddex, 5% from base, 5% from merits, and 15% from WS. 40%.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-05-11 23:34:47  
Ah, didn't realize dDex had a cap, thanks.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-05-11 23:38:28  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
dDEX caps at 20%. 110AGI isn't necessarily the highest you'll ever encounter, either.

Maximum base critical hit rate before gear and weaponskill bonuses is 25% (20% from dDEX, 5% from merits)
Did they change something? I was always under the impression it was 15%.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-05-11 23:39:45  
It is 15%, proth forgot the base 5%
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