Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
Ukko's Fury Setup
Ukko's Fury Setup
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Honestly mix and match between the two.
Ravager's feet will beat any other option, cleanly, 10% crit dmg is just sweet.
Zahaks mail will usually beat twilight full stop, as 3% crit rate > 5 str (acc being a moot point, or at least should be).
Restraint up > ravagers hands
Restraint down > heafoc
Not sure how the gorget/belt compare to other options.
Grim cuiass might beat out zahaks with berzerk down, not sure.
Edit: with Tikal's advice taken, the rest looks solid.
Wouldn't Ravager's Earring be better for WSing in over Vulcan's?
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3 atk 1% da vs 4 str for a ws with 60% str mod.... doubt it.
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
3 atk 1% da vs 4 str for a ws with 60% str mod.... doubt it.
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Many of you know Ejin I assume.. well I asked him which gear sets I should use for when I finish my Ukon 50/50 25/50 54/75 D: and not only did he give me the answers I was looking for he also had numbers to back up all his claims.. this is what sets I will be using once I get my Gax finished.
Zerk up:
Zerk down:
my TP set still needs a Zelus but I'll post anyway..
Zerk up:
Zerk down:
my TP set still needs a Zelus but I'll post anyway..
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Ravager's mufflers' bonus stays on when you switch them off. I.E: TP in ravager's mufflers, WS in Heafoc always. Assuming you have 25/26% haste in gear already from other slots.
Strigoi ring beats vulcans. I'm 100% sure!
On a serious note, why are we going from Beir to Snow Belts depending on Berserk? And Gorgets too.
Don't see how the ftp modifier would be affected by Zerk... Maybe I'm too tired/out of FF mode.
On a serious note, why are we going from Beir to Snow Belts depending on Berserk? And Gorgets too.
Don't see how the ftp modifier would be affected by Zerk... Maybe I'm too tired/out of FF mode.
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Bismarck.Altar said:
On a serious note, why are we going from Beir to Snow Belts depending on Berserk? And Gorgets too.
Don't see how the ftp modifier would be affected by Zerk... Maybe I'm too tired/out of FF mode.
Don't see how the ftp modifier would be affected by Zerk... Maybe I'm too tired/out of FF mode.
I've been using Motenten's war spreadsheet for all of my numbers, but since i was extremely bored - i decided to math it out for you. In that process, i noticed that: if you have a gorget/ele belt on for either berserk up or down sets, it applies the ftp bonus to all WS regardless. So, when i would add beir and ravager's, it would gain the bonus from those stats AND the fTP bonus from the ele gorget/belt.
Redoing the math, it's clear the Elemental belt and gorget are better than Ravager's gorget and Beir +1, regardless if berserk is up or down.
VV/RR/AoA 293/281 STR, 1.9 cRatio, assumed 4.36 fTP with 30% DA and 15% TA, +48% crit damage.
(D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * cRatio * crit damage bonus
beir+1+gorget: assuming 2% DA raises ftp by .014 from a base of 4.36
(131 + 22 + 148) * 4.374 * 1.9 * 1.48 = 3702.24
elemental gorget+belt:
(131 + 22 + 142) * 4.56 * 1.9 * 1.48 = 3782.7
Unless I've made another mistake; apologies for the previous incorrect advice.
ps: snow belt doesn't work for ukko's
yea i was about to say the whole thread, isnt it breeze belt and breeze gorget, lol
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Ukon warriors with 22% haste dont count.
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Ukon warriors with 22% haste dont count.
I wish I knew how to quote this more, so it got bigger each time.
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Ukon warriors with 22% haste dont count.
1) Yeah, don't use ravager hands for tp if you can't support them
2) I don't think light belt/gorget work with the empyrean ws?
Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Ukon warriors with 22% haste dont count.
1) Yeah, don't use ravager hands for tp if you can't support them
2) I don't think light belt/gorget work with the empyrean ws?
Skillchain Properties: Light/Fragmentation
So I would assume it does?
Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Wafflechan said:
Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
That's because a Single hit WS gets a bigger boost than a multi-hit. Gorgets only effect the first hit of a Weapon Skill.
I think Wafflechan was meaning that they were advocating the use of the Light Belt/Gorget in particular, in response to what Altar had said about not thinking that they worked on Empyrean WS.
I could have sworn I read somewhere that the T3 gorgets didn't work and you had to use the basic element gorgets for the empyrean ws... hm
I can say 100% from WSing in Ravagers' Gorget and Potent for my first 50-100 WS then farming Light items. Huge difference in my WS now.
Probably my mistake.
I just use Breeze. Had it from before for KJ.
Plus it works for fell cleave, so saves inventory space.
I just use Breeze. Had it from before for KJ.
Plus it works for fell cleave, so saves inventory space.
Bismarck.Altar said:
Probably my mistake. I just use Breeze. Had it from before for KJ. Plus it works for fell cleave, so saves inventory space.
The gargoyle NM is pretty simple. Much easier than killing Indrik for light belt
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Attribute said:
I use Light Belt and Gorget.
Ukon warriors with 22% haste dont count.
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Bismarck.Altar said:
The gargoyle NM is pretty simple. Much easier than killing Indrik for light belt
Bismarck.Altar said:
The gargoyle NM is pretty simple. Much easier than killing Indrik for light belt
Nabis said:
Bismarck.Altar said:
The gargoyle NM is pretty simple. Much easier than killing Indrik for light belt
Ah, well ya if you're brewing they're both equally easy :)
Ya... I was going to facepalm at KJ, but then I remembered Ukko's is weapon specific, so if you're using, say a Widowmaker, outside of abyssea, and have mighty strikes up (AV Zerg?), then KJ is your best bet.
Ya... I was going to facepalm at KJ, but then I remembered Ukko's is weapon specific, so if you're using, say a Widowmaker, outside of abyssea, and have mighty strikes up (AV Zerg?), then KJ is your best bet.
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