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 Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-04-28 22:58:22  
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EDIT: The WS gorgets/belts only work for the first hit and use the same wording.

for certain ws? lolwat

For every WS except a few specific new ones that were added. A good 95% of them the WS gorgets/belts only affect the first hit.

has it only been tested on "a few specific new ones"? lol
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-04-28 23:09:34  
They add accuracy to hits past the first, so they're entirely different. And they don't affect hits past the first on those ws. Those ws carry initial ftp to all their hits. It still only affects the ftp of the first hit. The ws is just different.

So, it's all inconclusive and I should test it sometime I guess.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-04-28 23:12:01  
I also trust Foldypaws more than other random people
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-28 23:39:42  
In 6 hours I couldn't prove it doesn't, but in 6 other hours I couldn't prove it does.

Ogier's aren't auto trash for Ukko's, a good number of NM's the Accuracy makes it a best in slot piece.
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By Kaerin 2012-04-29 02:41:00  
Asura.Fondue said: »

has it only been tested on "a few specific new ones"? lol

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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-29 13:59:44  
I'm sorry, was it implied that Foldy somehow tested something and Diasetsu is a random person?

If there is a MNK related test the source is probably him.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-04-29 14:08:17  
Nothing conclusive came from the thread, at all. I was just saying something to the contrary of what Kaerin said.

And I was calling the link that Pandum posted a random source, no one else.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-29 14:15:21  
Gear swaps, multi hits, transfer, lol. My head hurts. I just miss the Ukkos before the nerf.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-29 14:15:34  
Wouldn't the best way to test it be with Atonement?
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-29 14:23:45  
That does seem like a smarter way to do it, but I was out doing Relic bonus as well and haven't thought much about trying again since my last post.

I'll do atonement sometime today.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-29 14:25:22  
Another (possibly better since Atonement might work weirdly) option would be to use Refulgent Arrow on SAM/RNG.
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By Asura.Fiv 2012-04-30 14:31:56  
I'm curious why Oneiros Ring would be considered bad because of losing 100 HP when Rancor Collar is good with +10% damage taken, thats more then 100 HP worth of damage before you die, unless you rate 5% crit rate that much more superior to 2% triple attack for TP, which may be true, but in either case i don't think i would blame either if i died, specially in voidwatch.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-30 14:32:48  
You can take Rancor Collar off.
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By Asura.Fiv 2012-04-30 14:37:44  
True, but you can also use damage reduction gear when your going to take damage, in voidwatch i don't see it as a problem if using fanatics drink and damage reduction when fanatics is down, and not many other events have monsters that are going to one shot me aside from possibly legion, which i have yet to do.
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By Ashandarei 2012-05-02 08:06:26  
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What are best/good Atmacite combinations now in VW? Only missing the T2 Atmacites atm from ToA and CoP so wondering which is now worth to Upgrate to max to use on WAR.

Atm i only have Dicipline/Coercion/Provwatcherone to max but especially the SaveTP one seems more and more pointless cause latly all COR's do Choas/Fightersroll.. if there is a COR at all. When i am on COR i allways do Choas/Miser but dunno why so many others refuse to do Miser now in VW D:

This please, would really like to know which atmacites WARs are using, thanks!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-05-02 09:06:51  
Asura.Fiv said: »
True, but you can also use damage reduction gear when your going to take damage, in voidwatch i don't see it as a problem if using fanatics drink and damage reduction when fanatics is down, and not many other events have monsters that are going to one shot me aside from possibly legion, which i have yet to do.

Maybe it's because I'm taru but I find the HP for all my jobs more useful than mp for a melee job that's never going to use it except to activate a latent during TP, but that's just me.
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By Kaerin 2012-05-02 15:40:22  
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This please, would really like to know which atmacites WARs are using, thanks!

I use Coercion, Valiant and Provenance, but I don't think it's the most effective set for DD, I just like the reraise when things go bad and regain/acc for shitty proc weapons like 1 handed axe.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-05-02 15:55:06  
Discipline, Coercion, Valiant
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By Siren.Novadragon 2012-05-05 17:52:20  
You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-05-05 18:02:16  
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You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
Gunna go with no, it's not.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-05-05 18:32:34  
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
Gunna go with no, it's not.

I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3-
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By Siren.Novadragon 2012-05-05 18:39:14  
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
Gunna go with no, it's not.

I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3-

You mean on Voidwatch?
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-05-05 18:40:59  
Siren.Novadragon said: »
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
Gunna go with no, it's not.

I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3-

You mean on Voidwatch?

Yeah

Edit: It's probably worse on Legion, and better on Nyzul too.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-05-05 18:42:21  
Would also depend on how you're making up the lost STP.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2012-05-05 18:42:37  
Ah ok well he mostly wants explanation why really. He knows Armada Hauberk with augments will clearly win.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-05 18:47:50  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Would also depend on how you're making up the lost STP.
And haste.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2012-05-05 18:58:28  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Would also depend on how you're making up the lost STP.
And haste.

He uses bregos sorry forgot to mention.

Edit: Uses Houyi's gorget for neck with the goading belt.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-05-05 19:48:04  
Still gunna go with no, it's not. I mean maybe if restraint is down and your acc/atk is capped. But even then I see standard restraint down sets as being better.
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By Kaerin 2012-05-06 09:22:37  
Siren.Novadragon said: »
You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.

I would assume it's something like this:


Which wouldn't be all that bad for weak content when restraint is down. And if we're talking about it vs just using 4/5 AF3+2 with goading belt, blitz ring, zelus etc, This set would win unless you needed the extra accuracy the other has.


This is the set I'm saying it would beat.
20~ ACC and restraint enhancement vs
4 STR 3 Crit rate 4 DA 2 TA and 7~ ATT

Siren.Novadragon said: »
Edit: Uses Houyi's gorget for neck with the goading belt.

Tell him to use Tyrant ring and Rancor collar unless he can't deal with +10% damage taken, then to use Nefarious or Agasaya's or that 3% DA necklace that doesn't exist in my mind.
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