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Ukko's Fury Setup
 Asura.Kese
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By Asura.Kese 2011-03-22 20:33:20
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled. lulz
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-22 20:42:18
Asura.Kese said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled. lulz
I second the Lulz, You can have Double atack and a 5-hit at the same time.. just losing a little, plus DA has diminshing returns, 5-hit is just straight sex. Think of it like, a 2-Hander DD without a 5-hit is basically gimp now a days.
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 Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-22 20:42:59
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled. I've been pretty neutral this discussion.
But that's just *** stupid.
 Sylph.Kofi
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By Sylph.Kofi 2011-03-22 20:50:47
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
I think this ends his side of the argument. lol
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By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2011-03-22 20:53:02
Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it.
Sylph.Kofi
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By Sylph.Kofi 2011-03-22 20:55:12
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it.
Apparently we're the first few to think not doing a 5 hit is just plain wrong.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-22 20:56:52
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it.
The reasonable explanation for this, is the people you play with are also HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ;/.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-03-22 20:58:09
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it.
Could play it better though
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Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-22 21:04:38
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it. Don't even need a rose strap.
 Bahamut.Phix
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-22 21:07:57
This will be my 5 hit finishing off glavoid this comming week , with as easy it all is to get why not 5 hit
Also its Critique :S
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By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2011-03-22 21:08:38
im kinda against things that have negative stats and mods on them
Bahamut.Phix
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-22 21:09:58
huh what now ??
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-03-22 21:10:30
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
That has got to be my quote of the day.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-22 21:14:16
Bismarck.Altar said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Just because im not wearing a gd rose strap and hoard ring eveyone thinks im crazy, i do my job well and never had none critec how i do it. Don't even need a rose strap.
Gives up Atheling though, probably not a good tradeoff.
Bahamut.Phix said:
This will be my 5 hit finishing off glavoid this comming week , with as easy it all is to get why not 5 hit
Also its Critique :S How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: im kinda against things that have negative stats and mods on them You're missing the forest for the trees then.
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Bahamut.Phix
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-22 21:21:46
Quote:
How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
i think my stp calc is lying to me is it 49 or 55 needed to 5 hit a 482 delay :S /sam obv
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-22 21:24:23
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: im kinda against things that have negative stats and mods on them
Lol well but not having a 5-hit, you have Negative 5-hit. So you just screwed yourself!
Sylph.Kofi
サーバ: Sylph
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By Sylph.Kofi 2011-03-22 21:24:45
Bahamut.Phix said: Quote:
How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
i think my stp calc is lying to me is it 49 or 55 needed to 5 hit a 482 delay :S /sam obv
Are you counting TP from WS?
Bahamut.Phix
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-22 21:25:43
Sylph.Kofi said: Bahamut.Phix said: Quote:
How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
i think my stp calc is lying to me is it 49 or 55 needed to 5 hit a 482 delay :S /sam obv
Are you counting TP from WS? nope just in gear in tp
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-22 21:27:04
IMO people are overvaluing the restraint bonus from af3+2 hands...
@NF: I don't know that you can 5hit a 504del and keep the atheling on?
Unless you sacrificed Pole Grip AND Ravager's gorget, but that would be counterproductive
Sylph.Kofi
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By Sylph.Kofi 2011-03-22 21:27:22
Bahamut.Phix said: Sylph.Kofi said: Bahamut.Phix said: Quote:
How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
i think my stp calc is lying to me is it 49 or 55 needed to 5 hit a 482 delay :S /sam obv
Are you counting TP from WS? nope just in gear in tp
You need to count WS TP and 4 hits from TP phase to get a 5 hit. I take off a lot of store TP gear when I WS so I have to make up for it during TP phase. Unless you WS in TP gear... Then you do have a 5 HIT. :D
Bahamut.Phix
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-22 21:30:41
Sylph.Kofi said: Bahamut.Phix said: Sylph.Kofi said: Bahamut.Phix said: Quote:
How many tics of regain are you relying on here? Looks like you're relying on 3, I'd cut it down to 2 with Hoard Ring.
i think my stp calc is lying to me is it 49 or 55 needed to 5 hit a 482 delay :S /sam obv
Are you counting TP from WS? nope just in gear in tp
You need to count WS TP and 4 hits from TP phase to get a 5 hit. I take off a lot of store TP gear when I WS so I have to make up for it during TP phase. Unless you WS in TP gear... Then you do have a 5 HIT. :D fffff figures back to the drawing board lol no way im ws'ing in that lot lol could just swap in for horde as fyre sugested am open to sugestions really
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-03-22 21:33:21
Bahamut.Phix said: fffff figures back to the drawing board lol no way im ws'ing in that lot lol could just swap in for horde as fyre sugested am open to sugestions really
You get some leniency with multi-hits, first hit is basic tp return, every other hit (or multi proc) is +1*stp
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-22 21:58:46
Bismarck.Altar said: IMO people are overvaluing the restraint bonus from af3+2 hands...
@NF: I don't know that you can 5hit a 504del and keep the atheling on?
Unless you sacrificed Pole Grip AND Ravager's gorget, but that would be counterproductive Rajas, Rose, wtath, Brutal, AF3+2 body, Hoard Ring, Goading Belt with 2 tics of VV lets you WS in just Rajas/Rose/Wtath. Can even drop wtath for WS if you're banking on the second hit landing. That should be enough, but if you were trying for a setup with less reliance on regain you'd need to drop more gear.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-23 07:26:16
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: im kinda against things that have negative stats and mods on them
you're currently wearing an invisible piece of gear with "WS frequency - 25%"
 Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-23 08:11:18
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
hahahahahaha
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 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-23 08:15:27
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
hahahahahaha
Oh wow, morons everywhere today.. :P
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Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-23 08:18:51
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
hahahahahaha
Oh wow, morons everywhere today.. :P
you can't say that you don't have the job leveled which means you can't understand underlying mechanics!
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-23 08:19:43
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
hahahahahaha
Oh wow, morons everywhere today.. :P
you can't say that you don't have the job leveled which means you can't understand underlying mechanics!
But I doo have the job leveled!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-23 08:19:50
WAR is complicated.
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-23 08:20:54
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Opps sorry dozed off, do you think i care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do i have the gear for it yes i do, alil thing about war is double attack makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have war leveled.
hahahahahaha
Oh wow, morons everywhere today.. :P
you can't say that you don't have the job leveled which means you can't understand underlying mechanics!
But I doo have the job leveled!
i suppose i didn't specify to what level :p
Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
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