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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-06 17:43:33  
Hecatomb+1 with crit. damage augment
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-06 17:47:30  
Augmented Hecatomb Mittens +1 will be better than Ravager's Muffler's +2, and obviously use Ravager's Mask +2 if Berserk is up and it's not a corresponding day.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-06 17:53:23  
So let me get this straight. Elemental belt is more consistent. But Windbuffet can give you much higher spikes. I have both. Any advice on which I should full time?? Come on all you great FF minds. Please help me out.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 17:54:51  
Windbuffet unless you need accuracy.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-06 17:56:30  
Even if GA skill capped??
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 17:59:39  
I don't know what kind of content you do, but despite what everyone seems to think you don't have capped acc everywhere.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-06 18:00:52  
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-06 18:03:43  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.


So how about resolution, windbuffet >/= ele?
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2012-03-06 18:04:29  
Uthers
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 18:05:44  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.


So resolution windbuffet >/= ele?
No.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-06 18:07:52  
Er, that probably excluded WS where fTP transfer across all hits, so no, probably not Resolution.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-06 18:09:07  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.


So resolution windbuffet >/= ele?
No.

I thought so but minjo's post is confusing me D: I must be reading it wrong.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-06 18:09:31  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Er, that probably excluded WS where fTP transfer across all hits, so no, probably not Resolution.

oh ok just double checking. ty
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 18:09:57  
He didn't mention it doesn't apply to any WS that has the fTP carry on all hits.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-06 18:11:56  
Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
Uthers
Not the thread to be trolling in.

Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.


So how about resolution, windbuffet >/= ele?
WS where fTP transfers are an exception to that rule. Also, Windbuffet is only preferable on WS with at least two hits. Windbuffet can only add a maximum of 0.07 fTP to a single-hit WS (less with non-zero base DA/TA), but it'll have two chances to proc on multihit WS so you can roughly double that number (minus the small chance of hitting 8 hit/round cap). If your hit value starts getting too high (5+ hit WS with high base DA/TA) then it starts leaning back towards gorget again, but I can't think of any such WS off hand where a third belt isn't preferable to either.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-06 18:13:00  
Ok Windbuffet> than light belt. Thank you guys for your time.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2012-03-06 18:13:49  
:( sorry
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 18:20:07  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
Uthers
Not the thread to be trolling in.

Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
IIRC, Windbuffet is anywhere from better than or equal to the corresponding elemental belt on any WS where you would have used said belt. With the added bonus of occasionally seeing humorous WS numbers.


So how about resolution, windbuffet >/= ele?
WS where fTP transfers are an exception to that rule. Also, Windbuffet is only preferable on WS with at least two hits. Windbuffet can only add a maximum of 0.07 fTP to a single-hit WS (less with non-zero base DA/TA), but it'll have two chances to proc on multihit WS so you can roughly double that number (minus the small chance of hitting 8 hit/round cap). If your hit value starts getting too high (5+ hit WS with high base DA/TA) then it starts leaning back towards gorget again, but I can't think of any such WS off hand where a third belt isn't preferable to either.
It's not terrible for Smite if you have capped attack and don't need the acc from ele. belt. Not something I'd put on my priority list though, if you don't already have it.
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By Sylph.Darkei 2012-03-06 18:34:35  
thank you for the answers, about the food (inside and/or outside of abyss) which do you recommend?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 18:38:43  
Red Curries, I'd just save my money in abyssea and use yellow curry or bison steak.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-03-06 18:43:02  
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
and obviously use Ravager's Mask +2 if Berserk is up and it's not a corresponding day.
Did you mean to write "down" here? I'm trying to reconcile this post with Ejin's recommendations:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/34/#1757824
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-06 19:06:44  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
It's not terrible for Smite if you have capped attack and don't need the acc from ele. belt. Not something I'd put on my priority list though, if you don't already have it.
Smite is a 4 hit WS!

Sylph.Darkei said: »
thank you for the answers, about the food (inside and/or outside of abyss) which do you recommend?
Red Curry buns/Hydra Kofte for more high-end food. If you're doing old content (Abyssea included), you can probably downgrade to YCBs or Bison/Marbled Steak with little or no loss.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-06 19:18:11  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
It's not terrible for Smite if you have capped attack and don't need the acc from ele. belt. Not something I'd put on my priority list though, if you don't already have it.
Smite is a 4 hit WS!
Yeah but can only get one QA proc. :(

Also Pchan says otherwise. smite is 5 HITS YO
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-06 19:44:02  
smite is 10 hits.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-06 19:47:46  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
smite is 10 hits.

On a bad day O.o
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By Gimpness 2012-03-06 20:14:59  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
smite is 10 hits.

DNC has no 10 hit weaponskill. It fails.



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By Gimpness 2012-03-06 20:16:48  
Phoenix.Suji said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
and obviously use Ravager's Mask +2 if Berserk is up and it's not a corresponding day.
Did you mean to write "down" here? I'm trying to reconcile this post with Ejin's recommendations:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/34/#1757824

and to actually add something...


Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Updated sets. Ravager's Mask +2 when Merkira's fTP boost isn't in effect for the berserk down set.

edit: nevermind, I can't read.

I would think mask when berk is up and you aren't getting the boost from mekira because you wouldn't need the att from mekira as often.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-06 20:23:47  
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
and obviously use Ravager's Mask +2 if Berserk is up and it's not a corresponding day.
Did you mean to write "down" here? I'm trying to reconcile this post with Ejin's recommendations:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/34/#1757824

Er, my bad, my head is doing strange scenarios. Use Mekira-oto +1 where you wouldn't be capping attack. That's the simplest way to put it.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-06 20:52:19  
2nd that on the food recommendations. Thank you!!
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