|
Ukko's Fury Setup
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2821
By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-07 15:00:33
Cerberus.Kvazz said: OK so, I do not have Ukko's fury, but I'll ask here anyways:P
For both TP and RR, Light earring with crit rate +1 augment vs centaurus earring?(Flame earring with zerk + stalwarts)
I don't have Ravager's earring yet(Second account I'm doing warrior on)
I'd probably stick with crit +1, since it's a pretty nice aug to put on the ear slot. Do get Ravager's earring though
Cerberus.Kvazz
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-07 15:03:52
Odin.Sheelay said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: OK so, I do not have Ukko's fury, but I'll ask here anyways:P
For both TP and RR, Light earring with crit rate +1 augment vs centaurus earring?(Flame earring with zerk + stalwarts)
I don't have Ravager's earring yet(Second account I'm doing warrior on)
I'd probably stick with crit +1, since it's a pretty nice aug to put on the ear slot. Do get Ravager's earring though
Yeah I'll get it eventually, just got better things to upgrade first :P
Pandemonium.Ironguy
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2600
By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-06-07 19:00:33
Kaerin said:
assuming both are 6 hits, which is better?
ninurta/pyrosoul/moonshade
or
goading/blitz/ravagers
7str/7att vs 1 da basically.
And if possible, could this set be improved on?
moonshade earring(atk/regain)/armada hauberk/oneiros ring/ninurta's sash > ravager's earring/askar korazin/blitz ring/goading belt
16.5% return during tp, 16.9% during ukko's if you land both hits and ws in only brutal/rajas store tp-wise; 98.2% total, even if you land only the first hit on ukko's, meaning it'd only take six seconds for the earring to provide enough tp to fill the gap
the armada hauberk does require a six store tp augment though (as well as 2% da obviously), and no less, ontop of ten mp merits for the oneiros ring latent to work; in the end, it pretty much hands down beats the former combination, but given how ridiculous getting a nidhogg pop item is, well, y'know
By Kaerin 2011-06-08 03:30:24
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Kaerin said: http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c243/r5n/which.jpg
assuming both are 6 hits, which is better?
ninurta/pyrosoul/moonshade
or
goading/blitz/ravagers
7str/7att vs 1 da basically.
And if possible, could this set be improved on?
moonshade earring(atk/regain)/armada hauberk/oneiros ring/ninurta's sash > ravager's earring/askar korazin/blitz ring/goading belt
16.5% return during tp, 16.9% during ukko's if you land both hits and ws in only brutal/rajas store tp-wise; 98.2% total, even if you land only the first hit on ukko's, meaning it'd only take six seconds for the earring to provide enough tp to fill the gap
the armada hauberk does require a six store tp augment though (as well as 2% da obviously), and no less, ontop of ten mp merits for the oneiros ring latent to work; in the end, it pretty much hands down beats the former combination, but given how ridiculous getting a nidhogg pop item is, well, y'know
MP merits = no lol
I actually run an einherjar LS, and spent all my points last einherjar on v helm, and didnt get either of of the 2 ebodies, but I'll probably get the next, just have to bid points (one of the 2 went freelot lol) and there's several -1's around I could buy. (the -1 I bought off the AH that appears on my history was for someone else, not me saddly) So, that's not really a problem at all. I'm thinking maybe a mars ring instead of 7str or oneiros?
And you only need 5stp on berk to hit 98% after 6 hits. So you need 2 ticks of regain, or 1 tick and the extra hit of ukkos to hit.
Asura.Leonlionheart said:
Ravager's: +1 DA, +3 att
vs.
Light earring: useless stats+15, Crit rate+1
which is better?
I would use ravagers earring. Mainly because they are both 1% damage basically, with the same diminishing returns, but ravagers gives you 1% extra damage and increases your tp, 1% crit rate increases your damage without extra tp. The exception being if you have a lot of +crit damage, if you have a lot of crit damage, the 1% crit rate will be better for sure. so lets go with, 'if you have af3+2 shoes and at least RR, use crit rate earring.'
Pandemonium.Ironguy
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2600
By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-06-08 07:19:35
Kaerin said: MP merits = no lol
I actually run an einherjar LS, and spent all my points last einherjar on v helm, and didnt get either of of the 2 ebodies, but I'll probably get the next, just have to bid points (one of the 2 went freelot lol) and there's several -1's around I could buy. (the -1 I bought off the AH that appears on my history was for someone else, not me saddly) So, that's not really a problem at all. I'm thinking maybe a mars ring instead of 7str or oneiros?
And you only need 5stp on berk to hit 98% after 6 hits. So you need 2 ticks of regain, or 1 tick and the extra hit of ukkos to hit.
mars', strigoi or even keen ring in-place of oneiros ring are absolutely fine otherwise, but still, it's the clear-cut winner no matter what way you look at it
you're absolutely correct that you can run off a five store tp augment on armada hauberk, but even still, the "98%" you're getting is if you land both hits; if you don't (monster dies before the other hit can land as an example), well, then you need three ticks (due to only 97.2% return), which i wouldn't quite trust myself on warrior to consistently take more than nine seconds to reach 100% tp
the way i see it is, given that you can augment the piece as many times as you'd like (compared to the old laughable augment system), and seals aren't quite an issue to come across consistently, well, there's no reason to not shoot for perfect augments with it imo
Pandemonium.Ironguy
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2600
By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-06-08 07:39:31
Asura.Xeth said: I went through at least 60 tatters trying to get the augment that I currently have (HP+18, Store TP+5, Double Attack+2%)
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1925
By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-06-08 19:44:19
I feel your pain. sky sucks, 0/6 on e heads and 0/4 on e feet myself since getting my armada. cant even gloat about getting it cause it has no augments and is gimp><.
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3284
By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-06-10 21:34:43
Bellicus Cuisses Crit+2 VS AF3+2
Trash or Keep?
Ramuh.Lorzy
サーバ: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1356
By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-10 21:36:27
trash
Cerberus.Kvazz
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-11 04:39:38
Ok so, again not really a question regarding ukko's fury, but I'll rather ask here than make a whole new thread for it.
I currently have restraint up/down TP sets, but some people keep telling me its a waste of time, and that I should just fulltime 4/5 af3+2 + zelus tiara set.(when I get access to 4/5 af3+2 for this job)
True/false?
Edit:
Just gonna add my sets <_>
and
4/6 for +2 feet, so they'r my next upgrade, probably gonna do that today*
Pandemonium.Ironguy
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2600
By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-06-11 06:59:07
second set's a lot more ideal ofc, though you'll want goading in there instead of vbelt until 6stparmadaberk/moonshade/oneiros, but that's only for hardcore-warriors tbh, which case ravager'slorica|askarkorazin/ravager'searring/blitz/goading works nearly just as well
Cerberus.Kvazz
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-11 07:19:09
Yeah I'm not gonna do my warrior hardcore, I just got sick of not beeing able to come war + nin on my chars when needed.
But, assuming I wont go for a 5hit, should I still just fulltime the second one even when restraint is down?
Also, lets say I'm not getting +2 gloves in awhile, so both sets only get 3/5 +2
Pandemonium.Ironguy
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2600
By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-06-11 07:20:28
yup
not much else you can put in the hands slot anyways, even with restraint down
Cerberus.Virgil
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 62
By Cerberus.Virgil 2011-06-11 07:22:48
Ideal sets as of now:
Restraint Up:
Restraint Down:
Current Adaberk augments DEX+2 DA+1 STP+5
Storing up tatters atm to go for DA+2 or 3 with at least STP+5.
Cerberus.Kvazz
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-11 07:28:33
Guess I might have to try for Askar body when I cba then D:
No adaberk :<
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 406
By Lakshmi.Vlorsutes 2011-06-11 11:20:59
Ravager's Cuisses +2 vs. Crit Dmg +3% Byakko's Haidate? The +3% is the current crit damage level on my pair, but I'm planning on shooting for crit dmg cap on them eventually.
By sefalon 2011-06-11 11:42:29
I dont want to make a new thread so since this is kinda in the same ball park...
I have been doing my glavoids now after completing 2 other empys and I have had help before from random clears and plus +2 ppl but now that I am wanting to hit this a bit harder I will be down to my 3 man group 1 being my mule
My question is what is the best combo of jobs to Trio glavoid fast and easy.
I was thinking NIN w empy Blu (head Butt) and spells and my whm mule. Is there a better job combo?
Cerberus.Kvazz
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-11 11:57:00
sefalon said: I dont want to make a new thread so since this is kinda in the same ball park...
I have been doing my glavoids now after completing 2 other empys and I have had help before from random clears and plus +2 ppl but now that I am wanting to hit this a bit harder I will be down to my 3 man group 1 being my mule
My question is what is the best combo of jobs to Trio glavoid fast and easy.
I was thinking NIN w empy Blu (head Butt) and spells and my whm mule. Is there a better job combo?
That should work nicely.
Can have the blu use tp-drain spells to make it safer aswell
Good subtle blow/agi build on the NIN + blu draining tp, with the subtle blow ninjutsu and it should hardly ever use a tp move.
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1925
By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-06-11 13:06:52
I would if possible, rep blu with thf. Not taking TH to empy mobs will probably end up with you having to kill a lot more mobs in the long run. whm/blm is able to stun disgorge.
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-11 13:46:51
sefalon said: I dont want to make a new thread so since this is kinda in the same ball park...
I have been doing my glavoids now after completing 2 other empys and I have had help before from random clears and plus +2 ppl but now that I am wanting to hit this a bit harder I will be down to my 3 man group 1 being my mule
My question is what is the best combo of jobs to Trio glavoid fast and easy.
I was thinking NIN w empy Blu (head Butt) and spells and my whm mule. Is there a better job combo? Head Butt would work as long as you focus only on stunning Disgorge (all that needs to be stunned and I do not recommend stunning anything else anyway since he builds resistance), but you're going to be a sad panda when that 95% hitrate cap kicks in and it misses. I'd recommend a THF/BLM tbh if you're only going for three people, /BLM stun is fine if you don't spam stun/take forever and THF for TH obviously.
Cerberus.Mindi
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 602
By Cerberus.Mindi 2011-06-11 18:09:45
Hmm i have a question.. i read somewhere here on this forum that with the last crit dmg/hitrate update they raised the crit hit rate you get from dex, is that true? Or that was just some ppl eyeballing and thinking it was raised?
cause if they did raise the crithitrate from dex (and only then i know this, whatever it was called ddex? pdex? dunno the name was easyly caped before in abyssea), is Af3+2 hands better then to ws ukko then Heafoc? (13 more dex)
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-11 18:36:26
Eyeballing, dDEX calculations weren't changed at all.
Cerberus.Mindi
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 602
By Cerberus.Mindi 2011-06-11 18:47:31
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Eyeballing, dDEX calculations weren't changed at all.
all right thx :)
By Kaerin 2011-06-11 22:49:14
The other day in einherjar I parsed a 35% crit rate, when it should of been at 30, I passed it off as dumb luck, maybe I should try and duplicate the results!
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1925
By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-06-17 06:35:43
as an elvaan /sam I have 96str/81dex and use these sets:
Outside(weak mobs):
Outside(strong mobs):
Heca feet have str+3/att+5, heca Legs will have crit rate+3% at least(not augmented yet as just got them recently), byakko's have crit dmg+4%. Currently food is carbonara since my berk only has 3% DA and no stp, but I couldn't wait to get out of ugly af3+2 body.
Ideas on improvements?
Cerberus.Hiryo
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 278
By Cerberus.Hiryo 2011-06-17 10:24:26
Is augmented kitty pants better than Af+2 legs for RR / Ukkos inside abby?
Bahamut.Danthebk
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 198
By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-06-17 11:14:06
Cerberus.Hiryo said: Is augmented kitty pants better than Af+2 legs for RR / Ukkos inside abby? With 4% damage bonus, on average, it will be on par with af3+2 legs inside of abyssea with capped attack (two of rcb/stalwarts/berserk should do it). Without capped attack it will fall short.
I'm assuming RR/SS/AoA and good gear.
Lakshmi.Odude
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 81
By Lakshmi.Odude 2011-06-19 01:05:38
Curious what the thoughts are on Twilight mail vs armada hauberk for Ukko's Fury.
Would the extra attack you get from Armada make up the lack of 4 STR? Obviously the Armada would have a lot more Accuracy, but I guess it's a comparison of the STR vs the Attack.
Haven't augmented it yet, but hoping for some DA to use it specifically for WS.
Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
|
|