Debating what to off hand for Almace currently making the Oa2-4 times sword just hit the fork before I choose either Oa2-4 or DA+10 paths.
So I was wondering what you guys think.
WS more for steady dmg or WS less but with an extra 10% chance of a beefy one lol
Sub Hand For Almace?
Sub hand for Almace?
i didnt think ws were effected by the off hand
well the double attack may but the Occ. atk. wouldnt hmmm... i am at about the same spot myself all though i dont have the emp. weapon. i have pld and blu @90 and dont have joy toy so i torn here too
well the double attack may but the Occ. atk. wouldnt hmmm... i am at about the same spot myself all though i dont have the emp. weapon. i have pld and blu @90 and dont have joy toy so i torn here too
magicmachine said:
i didnt think ws were effected by the off hand
Bahamut.Dasva said:
magicmachine said:
i didnt think ws were effected by the off hand
The OA2-4 howerever does nothing for your ws other than have a low dmg offhand hit. But OA2-4 could theoretically help you keep aftermath up more often and increase frequency slightly...
While double attack with a good build should provide almost as much of a boost to frequency increase dmg and more ODD hits when aftermath is up
While double attack with a good build should provide almost as much of a boost to frequency increase dmg and more ODD hits when aftermath is up
Wish the DA sword would take less work.. :P
Making Almace -> Making that *** ;;
Making Almace -> Making that *** ;;
I think at this point I would've rather made DA... 30 Khalamari vs 1850 mobs...
Bahamut.Dasva said:
I think at this point I would've rather made DA... 30 Khalamari vs 1850 mobs...
When it comes to DA vs OA2-4, I'd make DA for sure >_>
Personally I think I'm gonna be lazy and just alternate between Isador and an STR sword offhand for Almace >_<
Well I always have the DA trait active, Epona's Ring, Twilight Belt, Atheling Mantle, and Brutal Earring all in my TP set plus capped haste so yeah I swing like a monster.
I don't mind killing the extra 1850 mobs since I can do most if not all in abyssea and Whisker/Thermal burn them all in like in hour(Hello Cluster trial with fire atmas hehe).
Just wondering which would increase my DoT more you know? Don't want to find out after I finished it that I should of made the other one.
I don't mind killing the extra 1850 mobs since I can do most if not all in abyssea and Whisker/Thermal burn them all in like in hour(Hello Cluster trial with fire atmas hehe).
Just wondering which would increase my DoT more you know? Don't want to find out after I finished it that I should of made the other one.
Kinda depends on what atmas you set and such and gear.
Really a shame you have to chose
Really a shame you have to chose
Seriously it is. I might end up making both. Since I have that kind of time.
Er what I mean is you can't make the fully upgraded version of both lol. I have rdm too so I like my 2-4 since lack of double attack and my enspells and my main dmg ws being sanguine blade make it signicantly better.
From what I've read, if you use the apoc atma, the multi hit weapons actually reduce your overall damage even accounting for increased ws rate. TA can't proc when you proc the OAT or OA4 so I hear so... In abyssea, the DA sword is about even with the STR sword from my damage calc spreadsheet with my gear ect.
Personally I made a OAT back before abyssea was out so I just kept that but I don't use it in abyssea.
I'd like to see some more precise math on the subject though.
Personally I made a OAT back before abyssea was out so I just kept that but I don't use it in abyssea.
I'd like to see some more precise math on the subject though.
TA takes priority over DA takes priority over OAX. Between the two weapons given, the answer is DA (STR!).
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
TA takes priority over DA takes priority over OAX. Between the two weapons given, the answer is DA (STR!).
I think the way that works is if you get the single attack proc it has a chance to DA or TA. But if your weapon procs 2,3,or4 times DA or TA will not affect it.
Also, i could be misreading posts before me, but Aftermath does not affect Weaponskills just normal attacks.
Also, i could be misreading posts before me, but Aftermath does not affect Weaponskills just normal attacks.
Ragnarok.Sekundes said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
TA takes priority over DA takes priority over OAX. Between the two weapons given, the answer is DA (STR!).
Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said:
I think the way that works is if you get the single attack proc it has a chance to DA or TA. But if your weapon procs 2,3,or4 times DA or TA will not affect it.
so DA/TA are calculated before OAX?
Hmmm Doesn't Isador make better offhand generally ? or Tyrfing ??
Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said:
so DA/TA are calculated before OAX?
Ragnarok.Holyman said:
Hmmm Doesn't Isador make better offhand generally ? or Tyrfing ??
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Holyman said:
Hmmm Doesn't Isador make better offhand generally ? or Tyrfing ??
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Holyman said:
Hmmm Doesn't Isador make better offhand generally ? or Tyrfing ??
Wanna see some testing on it aswell D:
If it's like excal it could be cool
Why Isador? I understand the MAC, ACC, and fastcast but if you're an Almace blu you're a CDC spamming DD. That's your role.
To that end it's a question of faster spam vs. moar dmg. Khanda +2 (whether you have the OA2-3x or OA2-4x) will rack up TP faster for WS. However, the DA sword helps with overall dmg as the DA trait will apply to both hands. This has already been pointed out too from what I've seen.
I suppose in low man if theres not other BLU to handle ellow proc equip the isador, then take it off. Atleast that's what I do.
To that end it's a question of faster spam vs. moar dmg. Khanda +2 (whether you have the OA2-3x or OA2-4x) will rack up TP faster for WS. However, the DA sword helps with overall dmg as the DA trait will apply to both hands. This has already been pointed out too from what I've seen.
I suppose in low man if theres not other BLU to handle ellow proc equip the isador, then take it off. Atleast that's what I do.
I've off handed Tyrfing for a while. It's added effect seems to be around 12-15% your current MP from what I've seen. ex. 850 MP = 125-148 added effect.
As for how often it procs I'd say about 10-12% of the time.
Of course this isn't real testing it was mainly observing my log and seeing what it did.
As for how often it procs I'd say about 10-12% of the time.
Of course this isn't real testing it was mainly observing my log and seeing what it did.
Additional effect caps at 150 damage iirc, low procrate... maybe ~10%? I'll see if I still have my parse.
Not sure it caps at 150 since my last one did 161.
Really? I don't remember ever seeing one that high... damn, might have to go get another one and test again. Tossed mine during moghouse cleaning a while back.
Quick answer from peanut gallery: Shamshir+2 (pick a stat based on whatll help you deal more dmg!)
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