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Arizona Congresswoman Shot at Public Event
Cerberus.Pukushu said: isolated events. tragic choice of graphic art in hindsight, but how can you reasonably know what a crazy person might do. he may not have even ever seen the dumb poster. Indeed, but regardless of who was crazy and what they did; as a political figure you have a responsibility for owning up to your own rhetoric and propaganda and the potential message you're conveying to masses of people affiliated with your cause/party. It's called moderation and self control. Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Artemicion said: Cerberus.Pukushu said: isolated events. tragic choice of graphic art in hindsight, but how can you reasonably know what a crazy person might do. he may not have even ever seen the dumb poster. Indeed, but regardless of who was crazy and what they did; as a political figure you have a responsibility for owning up to your own rhetoric and propaganda and the potential message you're conveying to masses of people affiliated with your cause/party. It's called moderation and self control. It is called butthurt people need to get the *** over it. In your opinion. Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: Also...check this out, yeah yeah, I know fox news, but they give a counter to the Sara Palin crosshairs thing you guys have mentioned. If your serious about this debate read it. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/arizona-massacre-prompts-political-cheap-shots/ Did you find a graphic of it anywhere Harp? People some how think they will "win" if the shooter is placed further away from them on the political party line.. why?
People some how think they will "lose" if the shooter is placed closer to them on the political party line.. why? You win nothing, you lose nothing. This proves no point in which political views are correct. This proves no point that insane extremists do not exist on the either side of the fence. Loughner was a registered Independent.
He was on neither side it seems. http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_78272a23-fe75-5bee-ba38-f8171cda3fb7.html Quote: Which is my point about trying to link SP via the dumb poster to the shooting. there is no connection. isolated events. tragic choice of graphic art in hindsight, but how can you reasonably know what a crazy person might do. he may not have even ever seen the dumb poster. That was my whole point many pages ago, lol. I even had links where others used similar imagery. The problem was misinformation combined with him being mentally unstable. Not a good combination. I found it amusing that Palin took down the poster. Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: People some how think they will "win" if the shooter is placed further away from them on the political party line.. why? People some how think they will "lose" if the shooter is placed closer to them on the political party line.. why? You win nothing, you lose nothing. This proves no point in which political views are correct. This proves no point that insane extremists do not exist on the either side of the fence. They believe that because it isn't a stretch to notice that a good mass of voters are rather superficial and see things on a surface level. They'll associate a madman with a particular political party and associate all other madmen with said party without ignoring the possibility that it was isolated and ultimately was insanity that caused what happened. Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Artemicion said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Artemicion said: Cerberus.Pukushu said: isolated events. tragic choice of graphic art in hindsight, but how can you reasonably know what a crazy person might do. he may not have even ever seen the dumb poster. Indeed, but regardless of who was crazy and what they did; as a political figure you have a responsibility for owning up to your own rhetoric and propaganda and the potential message you're conveying to masses of people affiliated with your cause/party. It's called moderation and self control. It is called butthurt people need to get the *** over it. In your opinion. Considering you have been going on with this "dat poster der be excessive" and how politicians should take credit for something like this because of their rhetoric. That is all opinion too, and I still do not feel Palin is liable and therefore needs not say anything. Even after all of that 'evidence' you have presented I still have not seen a reason to change my opinion. That's fine. You're entitled to yours As I am to mine. Nice of you to notice :D Also I don't believe I listed anything I posted as "evidence". Simply an obvious similarity between her symbolism and what happened. Nothing more or less. Saying that doesn't automatically associate the murderer with a political figure or party. I simply think it's risky associating the context of pointing out political opponents while using symbolism conducive to that of firearms. Especially when the party this appeals to is notorious for their seemingly misdirected love for the second amendment and the NRA. What do quotation marks determine here other than tone?
Also you did use quotation marks, or inverted commas. Whichever you prefer.  has no parallels to SP's poster. If it did you would have elaborated. Spicy was targeting my logic with something similar in nature.
I don't think I really credited anyone or their silly ideas.
Besides, I more or less ignore Phy. Much better that way. On two separate contexts.
Lovely. Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: why is it stupid? it could be sad for some people..but I don't feel all that sad, and I'm pretty sure a good deal of people on here don't either since this topic is happening. wouldn't it be easier to just not give a dismissive post and let this sad sap train roll on? not everyone has the same moral standards as you, and they shouldn't have to have it :/ /thread-on! what's sad is you think every person can be rolled up into 1 tiny little ball and write something down on it for you to put in your pocket, every time you pull that ball out of your pocket you remember what you defined that person as.. for me it's "moral" so every single time I post you can post back about how you think I am morally superior to others. Guess what I wrote down for you Vinvv: Always pretending to be impartial while subtly being objective, always instigating and always trolling. This was a sad tragic event, people died. That's really my only thoughts on it. you say instigating, i say provoking thought. i dunno what you are going on about the rest of the stuff, so i can dismiss it easily. It's a mutual similarity.
Just like the poster and the shooting. Doesn't necessarily regard the two isolated incidents as linked or of direct cause to one another. We don't know. But the correlation is there. And yes, it's enough to cause concern. So what exactly are you trying to assert past what I've spoke of with ya arte?
Ramuh.Vinvv said: So what exactly are you trying to assert past what I've spoke of with ya arte? The only point I've been trying to make is that it's reckless to associate the context of targeting political opponents using the same symbolism that is conducive to firearms. Nothing more, nothing less. The shooting is isolated, but brings it into perspective. Artemicion said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: So what exactly are you trying to assert past what I've spoke of with ya arte? The only point I've been trying to make is that it's reckless to associate the context of targeting political opponents using the same symbolism that is conducive to firearms. Nothing more, nothing less. The shooting is isolated, but brings it into perspective. I just can't see the point here past you stating the obvious. Ramuh.Vinvv said: I just can't see the point here past you stating the obvious. Some feel differently. But I respect that. |
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