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Charged Whisker
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-05-31 14:59:27
The best atma combination for charged whisker (in terms of pure damage) is: blinding horn, lion, and ultimate. Yes the thunder magic attack is overkill, but it still beats razed ruins by a long shot. Two upgrades for the set posted above would be maat's cap and morrigan's body. Maat's cap is obviously not a minimal difference compared to aias bonnet, and morrigan's robe does quite a bit more damage than loki's.
Also, if your surviving mobs only have a couple % left, why are you using thermal pulse instead of whirl of rage lol O_o. If you're giving advice on how to CW properly, you should be able to one-shot any abyssea mob without some innate thunder resistance, and therefore the mobs that survive are the ones that resisted CW by 1/2. There's always a 5% chance of resistance. It's much easier just to finish them off with a physical spell than TP.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-05-31 16:20:29
i very rarely get resisted, a lot of times i dont even have whirl of rage set even though i probably should. I just wrote it down because i know a lot of Blu's use it to stun and have time to cast their next spell. when i have 2hour chests dropping consistantly i dont mind the extra mp costs, temp items/intense soothing lights are what keep it going for me. I actually am working on Morri body as well, been wanting it for quite some time for this reason exactly.
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 17:03:24
just go full mab/int on charged whisker, mm ultimate atma of the lion or blnding horn/ beyond.
best setup for charged whisker is blinding horn ultimate mm
or blinding horn atma of the lion (if you dont have ultimate) and mm,
for full charged whisker power use blinding,lion, and ultimate.
get af3 hands/boots as well if you can,(it will boost charged whisker by a lot,) artemis pendant/ potentia cape .etc , make sure to use burst affinity > then charged whisker if your farming the
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-05-31 17:06:32
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: just go full mab/int on charged whisker, mm ultimate atma of the lion or blnding horn/ beyond.
You dont want this though :/ CW has a Dex mod.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-05-31 17:08:00
(This is a legit question Emanuelle)... Why would you go nuts on int+ when its primary stat mod is dex? Does it way heavier due to the nature of offensive blue magic?
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 17:08:19
Shiva.Kollosis said: Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: just go full mab/int on charged whisker, mm ultimate atma of the lion or blnding horn/ beyond.
You dont want this though :/ CW has a Dex mod. i did used rr and dex gear mixed with int , does not worth it, you want to go full mab/int it will do more dmg than wasting a +50 dex atma than 40% lighting power atma lot (blinding horn or lion atma)
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-05-31 17:09:52
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: Shiva.Kollosis said: Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: just go full mab/int on charged whisker, mm ultimate atma of the lion or blnding horn/ beyond.
You dont want this though :/ CW has a Dex mod. i did used rr and dex gear mixed with int , does not worth it, you want to go full mab/int it will do more dmg than wasting a +50 dex atma than 40% lighting power atma lot (blinding horn or lion atma)
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 17:12:37
feel free to test by yourself by taking/puting on rr instead blinding or lion atmas, i play with charged whisker all days to farm te its 50% dex-int also the dmg gets boosted by mab as well,
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 17:14:12
ill just put a damage screenshot right now, im on my blu ull see how low dmg ill get with dex atma instead 40% lighting dmg atma or with no mm
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-05-31 17:14:20
Can you give me some examples of what mobs you're doing this on, and how much damage you're pulling off?
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-05-31 17:17:32
No one is saying to use a dex atma, It's generally agreed upon to use a mixture of dex/mab gear. And best atmas to me are BH/Lion/Ultimate, some people prefer MM, and that's just preference.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-05-31 17:17:36
oh I didn't think RR atma would really do that grand considering how heavy MAB atmas boost your status... I don't have the "lightning+" atmas like blinding horn or lion, but I have ultimate, beyond and MM (beyond may have ice potency but still has a very nice MAB+ on it).. It'll be awhile til I can test my dmg with it since I have to rebuild my comp now (friggin BS lol) but my gear builds aren't nearly as good as you guys'... I was simply asking about it, for when I can return and work on my blu magic build.
Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-05-31 17:20:54
your numbers will probably be significantly lower without lightning atmas. blinding horn shouldn't be too hard to get, not sure about lion but i would guess the same.
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 17:56:16
this my gear for te farming/nuking for elemental mab spells as blu
all these spells have been casted with no memento mori/burst affinity
atma of the lion, razed ruins and mm (1 lighting atma taken off blinding horn)
mm lion and blinding horn

(can tell i got semi resisted on the second pachypodium)
lion,blinding and razed ruins
i can reach up to 5k+ charged whiskers with memento mori /burst affinity , and almost 5.9k dmg if convergence is used
Lakshmi.Galith
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By Lakshmi.Galith 2011-05-31 18:02:31
Ramuh.Lorzy said: your numbers will probably be significantly lower without lightning atmas. blinding horn shouldn't be too hard to get, not sure about lion but i would guess the same.
If you swap any Atma, you'd want to swap Ultimate which contributes the least to your damage. Swapping it for MM you'd lose around 850 damage while using BA and swapping it for RR you'd lose around 500.
Here is a spreadsheet for the damage calculation that was posted by Tashan on BG. There is an error with the MAB section, A15 should read =C2/B4. If you copy it over to your own excel you can play around with it a bit.
Quetzalcoatl.Longarm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Longarm 2011-06-01 11:40:46
I've tried all of those atmas with different combos, as blu/rdm in the highlands earlier tonight on ep lizards with this setup ( with 1 set proc. ) and these spells set on one liz at a time.
plasma
whisker
occultation
battery charge
plenilune
quad
regeneration
whirl
frypan
battle dance
head butt
memento
dream flower
acrid stream
actinic
blitz
fantod
lion/horn/ultimate
4407 - BA no memo
2977 - no BA no memo
4811 - memo + BA
lion/horn/mm
3603 - BA no memo
2519 - no BA no memo
4034 - memo + BA
lion/horn/rr
3479 - BA no memo
2519 - no BA no memo
7364 - memo + BA
4347 - memo + BA
4341 - memo + BA
4347 - memo + BA
4334 - memo + BA
lion/rr/mm
3155 - BA no memo
2123 - no BA no memo
3527 - memo + BA
lion/mm/ultimate
3945 - Ba no memo
2130 - no Ba no memo
3561 - memo + BA
3168 - Ba no memo
It isn't the best test ever, but from what i have seen so far, it looks like lion/horn/ultimate does the most for me even though I've seen people say lion with rr and mm is better and does more dmg, but i just haven't seen it. I did more nukes but didn't write those ones down but hey were pretty consistent with the ones written down. I'm guessing its different for everyone and depends on what you're wearing i guess.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 11:46:05
I have a legit question about your set Longarm... Isn't the Art Medal like only good during certain moon phases for the MAB bonus? Why not use Uggy Pendant?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-01 11:51:18
Uggy Pendant is activated by your outside-Abyssea MP%, so it's really not a practical choice inside Abyssea. If you want consistent damage, a better choice would be a DEX+5 neck.
Quetzalcoatl.Longarm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Longarm 2011-06-01 11:57:45
Thats what i was thinking when it came to uggy pendant, just never thought it would be practical. I have seen people using the shifting necklace, i don't have one but I'll try a few nukes with my love torque and see what the numbers are with the different atmas.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 11:58:56
oh true, cuz of all the mad crazy refresh in aby and restorative items... duh me lol thx... (so by extention, blm and sch should be nuking in savant chain, and like that new MAB+5 neck?.... dont mean to veer off here, but i have sch too, and i'm just curious as to what to use there then givin that info (though when i'm soloing i go nuke happy and uggy usually is in effect lol))
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-01 12:07:31
Ifrit.Eikechi said: oh true, cuz of all the mad crazy refresh in aby and restorative items... duh me lol thx... (so by extention, blm and sch should be nuking in savant chain, and like that new MAB+5 neck?.... dont mean to veer off here, but i have sch too, and i'm just curious as to what to use there then givin that info (though when i'm soloing i go nuke happy and uggy usually is in effect lol)) Yeah. feud pendant is a good choice until those items, moreso for RDM since it doesn't have a good nuking JSE neck.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 12:10:24
I happen to have the Savant Chain and Uggy for sch, I tend to try to switch as needed when mp pool is at the right levels, I got nuts when I solo on sch, because with MM, I get to nuke hard with bliz 4's, thunder 4s and cryohelices... anyways thx and i'll not tangent this thread any more :P. I appreciate the quick inquiry.
Cerberus.Sey
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By Cerberus.Sey 2011-06-01 12:32:16
I know most people don't have it and I clearly don't. But isn't Atma of the War Lion better than the other 2 lighting atmas? I ask that cause no one considered mentioning to try to get it.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 12:37:02
War Lion is mentioned in a few of the test dmg samples actually...
Quetzalcoatl.Longarm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Longarm 2011-06-01 12:37:51
War lion is the one I've been using, war lion / blinding horn / ultimate.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-06-01 12:37:58
Cerberus.Sey said: I know most people don't have it and I clearly don't. But isn't Atma of the War Lion better than the other 2 lighting atmas? I ask that cause no one considered mentioning to try to get it. The Lightning+: superior actually refers to elemental resist. So it gives you 100+ Lightning resistance and doesn't affect your damage besides the lightningday/weather bonus which I imagine wouldn't outdo a straight up 30% bonus from either Lion/BH.
Quetzalcoatl.Longarm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Longarm 2011-06-01 12:44:09
Well this is what i ended up with .. only 5 casts with love torque on and 5 with artemis' on. It was full moon just now so artemis' was 10 mab.
war lion/horn/ultimate
love torque - BA + memo
4749
4252
4270
4732
4732
artemis' medal - BA + memo
4830
4830
8342 ( set proc )
4841
4841
I'll try it again i guess when its not full moon.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 12:47:00
Jesus that set proc is dope.... lol
Cerberus.Sey
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By Cerberus.Sey 2011-06-01 12:50:04
Leviathan.Alkalinejoe said: The Lightning+: superior actually refers to elemental resist. So it gives you 100+ Lightning resistance and doesn't affect your damage besides the lightningday/weather bonus which I imagine wouldn't outdo a straight up 30% bonus from either Lion/BH.
Yes I went back to check that it is indeed resistance. So nothing to worry about, carry on guys :-D
Quetzalcoatl.Longarm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Longarm 2011-06-01 12:50:58
wow i need to do different tests then lol
So there's a taru BLU on my server that is hitting a group of detectors in Abyssea Altepa for 6K+ damage. He shots most of the group tho. However when I try it I can't get over 2.6K with my Charged Whisker. I can only use Beyond, Kirin & MM as my magic atmas so I don't know where I'm going wrong.
Here's my current Charged Whisker set
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