Charged Whisker

Were you using it on the exact same mobs with the exact same level range? Which atma did you replace? Someone could have leveled the mobs up. 2700~3000 sounds low though as a good majority of the dmg comes from atma alone. What is your gear set looking like? BH and Lion are the biggest upgrades to it.

Well, as far as atma go you should be setting both your +thunder damage atma (if you have them) then look for a mab as the 3rd (If you don't have ultima, Beyond isn't bad either). With temp items MM shouldn't be something you need and will give you lower results than a MAB atma will.

Additionally, take into consideration how you are gearing and any possible negatives from Earthday if applicable. If you have any questions on gearing there are plenty of sets posted throughout this topic that you can reference. Also keep in mind that some of us are taking advantage of correlation weakness, elemental weakness, and have all abyssites that increase +attributes given from cruor buffs.

Were you using Burst Affinity?

I was using BA and I've even used 2 hr but didn't make much of a difference. I've tried Lion, BH, and MM/RR but neither set was too great as I got a high of 4200 the other day on Tonberries. I've also done it on Manticores, Apkallu, Colibri, Flan (which seems to have the most effect on), and Scorpions.

As I said my gear isn't too great so I depend on the 2 Atmas mostly. I use Jupitar Staff, Teal gear for head and body, Emp +2 for legs, hands, and feet. Moldavite earring, Nifty Mantle, Warwolf Belt. I know my gear can be better but this is all I have so far.

Gonna go try to use Beyond to see if that helps. Thank you very much.

Afaik Charged Whisker doesn't get a damage multiplier from Azure Lore, so it wouldn't make a difference.

You should be scoring 4k+ on every cast with the gear that you listed.

Gear and Atmas seem to go into the right direction, so the only thing I can think of is that a lot of small things might add up to a bigger loss in dmg.

Things to consider are the lack of certain items (Loki's, Aias, maybe Hecate's Earring), one or more Abyssite(s) of Furtherance and BLU spells itself (which add DEX and/or INT).
It's possible that you lose about 10 MAB (respectively) from every source if those aren't in order, which is like losing 1 MAB Atma itself and thus resulting in what you are experiencing.

However, this is only a guess on my part.

Keep working on the small deficits that you may have and I'm sure your numbers will get better before long.

momento mori helps alot with my CW burns , gear i use is af+2 legs feet hands +1 head and loki body with hecates/molda for ears either get some int+ or magic crit demon rings from tahrongi will help see a difference as well

Thank you everybody for all the suggestions. I just remember I didn't have Beyond so I used Baying Moon instead and it definitely made a difference as I was getting 4300 on Tonberries. I guess now I have to work a bit towards gear so that I can one shot things as my WoR usually gets resisted.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/20806/azure-lore-a-guide-to-aoe-burning-on-blue-mage/6#1577441

Hey Fellow Blue Mages's!

I recently began to start farming time for mates while we burn through KI's. I've been doing a lot of Research and I would like some input on gear/atmas/dmg/campage if you don't mind.
Here's what I've come up with so far:

Atmas: Ultimate / Blinding Horn / Lion

pre-debuffs:
Sound blast
Enervation
pre-buffs:
Momemto Mori(If tonic is not up)
fantod

BA > CW

I usually one-shot most camps I come across, but there are some zone I'm having problems with.

Like I said I just started and hopefully on the right path, I would love some tips, pointers, anything ya got.

Thnx,
Omg~

Hey Omg. Not a bad start indeed. You already have the atma's for burning, now you just need to upgrade some of those pieces.

My set isn't as different as yours,


If you can't 1 shot them, I suggest CA+Eff+Whirl of Rage or a Dream / Thermal Pulse.

Your prebuffs and prebuffs are pretty much on point with what everyone else does.

lol thanx for that link Kaht... so simple of a solution

Hey Dannyl
Thank you for your input and sharing your CW set. It seems i will have to spend some time +2'ing some blu gear.

Another problem i'm inquiring.. when I mass pull, I get close to death sometimes.. I was wondering if you had a pulling Item Set you would like to share. Once I make it home I can show you what I use to pull. As far as buffs:
Stoneskin
phalanx
Occulation
Haste(when not up)
Battery Charge(when not up)
Ice Spikes
Cocoon

Then I venture off to tag about 15-20 mobs depending if I have help or not.
Thnx again^^
Omg

SS from /RDM takes too long to cast and not very potent IMO, I'd rather cast eva+ spells.

Rest are just evasion gears, I usually pulled in evasion sword + genbu and a bunch of evasion gears.

A Hume /RDM can easily cap Stoneskin with about +56 MND assuming you have 80 mnd naturally.

What is the benefit of Haste when you're not attacking, and never having to wait for the recast on any of your spells?

Personally, I'd ditch haste, battery charge, and ice spikes. Use MM instead of ultimate since you don't need the epeen damage from ultimate. 2k whirls + 4.5k whiskers kills everything. 6k whiskers are not necessary and the autorefresh from MM prevents you from having to cast battery charge, or sift through blue boxes to find restoration chests or mp potions. MM = faster whiskerburns.

If there's one thing I'd suggest to add that you're not already using, it'd be aquaveil. The one thing that will have the highest chance of killing you would be an interrupted dream flower, and aquaveil prevents that from happening.

Thank you for your feedback. I will have to try out that strategy. The only one I knew of was one-shot, spam chests and hope for a ISL or temps. (although you farm long enough I guess after you start getting a steady flow of ISl's its okay to change back to ultimate?)

But I will definitely try your recommendation, Thanks Kaht.

What's a good set for Whirl of Rage, I can't get it to go higher than 1k?

Whirl is a 30%str and 30%mnd mod. Just packing as much STR in there as you can so long as you don't sacrifice mnd to do it such as flame pearls or flame rings. STR is going to help slightly more so favor str if you can but any slot where you can get a large amount of mind, such as morrigan's pigaches is going to be best.

Just make sure your macro puts your sword on or it isn't going to do much good.

As a side note, I never have any problems with mp when I burn, in the 2 minutes it takes for BA to be up again, I've more than capped mp with just my idle gear. Most mob types don't respawn much faster anyhow.

When you are starting out farming it helps to claim a few of the mobs so you get azure from killing them. That way you'll start getting restore chests and temp items faster.

Hey OMG,
In terms of a pulling set, I've been playing with it lately so mine may not be ideal , yet. I originally focused on -50% PDT, which is very capable, especially with Atma of Lion, however, I now started to get more Evasion into the mix.

Here's what I use:

*Dark Rings are -5% and -6% PDT

There are a few things you can do to upgrade or even replace. For now, this works for me. If you'd like I post my spell-list that I use for burning, but I'll need to go home to post that.

Edit: Atma of MM or not, is purely the users preference and comfortably. When I didn't have Ultimate, I used MM, even without MM over Ultimate, I don't have a problem with MP. Through temps, ISL's and my Idle Refresh set, its never an issue.

This is pulled straight from my spellcast file:

With that said, I haven't whisker burned for nearly 3 months now, so it's quite a bit outdated. It's also not perfect (str earrings, +7 str rings, +3 shamshir, etc)

One confusing thing in the set you may notice is that I'm swapping in a genbu's shield in the off-hand. That's cause I'm usually /rdm and I don't bother setting dualwield when I whiskerburn. So, genbu's takes that slot for the -pdt in case I take any hits during the casting of the spell.

An important part to pull big numbers with whirl is that after you've gathered all the mobs and are running them back to camp, use chain affinity and efflux shortly before you get to camp. If you have your macros/spellcast set up correctly, you'll blink out during your gearswap so that it doesn't interrupt you running. (this assumes you're not using the blinkmenot plugin)

ftfy

I personally don't. It just slows you down. If you're doing a 2k whirl and 4.5k whisker, it's the exact same as if you're doing a 2k whirl and a 6k whisker. The mobs are dead either way.

See above:

For Whirl Aqua Rings should offer the same increase in modifiers at a fraction of the cost. And Pyrosoul has mnd -3 so you net less in modifiers

Ahh this is gooood, tonight I'll be farming time so I'm definitely gonna take everyones feedback into consideration! woohoo, I shall let you guys know the results and maybe a few ss's to see if we can critique for improvement.
Thnx guys!

STR has the added benefit of adding Blue Magic Attack.

Okay Guys I'm in the midst of farming time as we speak and this was a quick SS I took with my strategy..I tried Kaht's way but some reason I died instantly.. my WoR was only doing 1.2-1.5k and then CW was 4k or less.. So I just stayed with my strategy for the friendly event til I can figure out what I'm doing wrong. :)

With the amount of mobs pulled u can easy spam key for an ISL so Battery charge really is not needed, same has haste. This is how my misses would CW burn and it works well everytime.

Best self buffs would be;
Stoneskin
Phalanx
Occulation
Aquaveil
Cocoon

Pulling Set:


Debuffs:
Enervation

Sound Blast is good but not really needed, Mori or Drink and then onto charged.

Charged:


Usually this will 1 shot mobs that you would have leveled down to EP(Unless people are fighting them), if not then just WoR afterwards and all should be dead. Just make sure u switch in a sword for your WoR obv.

You could always do it the alternate way of pulling >> WoR >> Dream >> CW but I don't see that done much.

You're using Chain Affinity & Efflux prior to whirl, right?

edit: and less than 4k on whisker is pretty low, you're using BA for that as well I'm assuming? Your screenshot shows 6150's for your regular setup, so I'm assuming you are. Atma of the Ultimate will not increase charged whisker by over 2150 damage alone, so something else is amiss.