Here Is Your Holy Man, Bathed In The Blood Of Inno

You don't have to say the word 'hate' to express that you hate someone. Your posts sound very hateful and intolerant.

That's your opinion and an opinion that is very far from the truth.

pfft. you know I was speaking in metaphorical terms with the "heart"
way to go, got anything else to say other than that?

yeah the metaphorical heart is another belief, for all you know it's a myth created by chemicals in your brain.

Also yeah, I know but I was being a ***.

Furthermore, removing religion would do nothing to get people to live up to your elevated standards of moral or logical thinking.

Can't be sure.
the concept of "heart" in the metaphorical sense is as real as the concept of good and evil as well.
it's easy to disagree with something, a bit harder to put a bit more thought into it rather than just saying it's wrong.
I've had this same argument with my grandmother who hates muslims and she's a christian and believes everything she sees on the boob-toob.

Hence why I'm against the entire concept that creates religion, if you haven't gathered that by now then you need to start paying attention.

edit: It's common to remove the cause of a problem instead of dealing with the actual problem, fortunately over time people have managed to realize the fallacies of said line of thinking and are moving away from it.

Why are you against it?

I'm sorry, I only read the first half of the first page and the fourth page. Please explain to me your concept that creates religion and hence forth corrupted morals or illogical thinking.

Oh I saw your good vs evil discussion, yes they are metaphorical concepts. That's a given.

Why do you believe they are corrupted?

illogical solutions to ignorance = faith

Pay attention.

ignorance and seeking to end the ignorance without logic creates religion, needing answers now and not accepting "we need to research it" as an acceptable answer.

Also morals are purely subjective and have no real meaning.

well you aren't doing a very good job of it, so I'd hate to see your other "qualities"

I read this at work the other day. This sort of thing happens quite often. Why are the Catholic Priests the only ones getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar?

The Congregations who follow and cover up for these Vile priests are no better than the actual priests themselves.

Morals have no meaning, they are purely subjective, to EVERYONE.

Also everyone has a heart, if you don't you're not alive, unless you're speaking of the metaphorical heart, which is about as real as morals or good and evil.

Principles are subjective too.

Why are you against religion Jet?

You are closed minded.
As well as open minded.

I take it this is the concept you were alluding too? Since you didn't specify I'm going to assume that by the 'problem' you are referring to questions long asked by man such as, 'How did we get here?', 'What is our purpose?', etc. and that by 'dealing with the problem' you are referring to religion as an answer to those questions. I am also assuming by '...fallacies of said line of thinking and moving away from it' you mean converting to atheism.

Atheism is no more a better a solution to the 'problem' (if I interpreted it right) than religion. I believe that atheism takes the stance that there is no real solution to said 'problem', while religion usually uses a God or belief set to explain the 'problem'.

Both answer the 'problem' in their own way but I don't see how atheism's answer that there is no purpose is any better or more right than religion's.

I'm against the very thoughts that cause religion, permitting illogical thinking and ignorance regardless of the truths in front of you, that doesn't make me close minded one bit.

What illogical thinking and ignorance?
Care to elaborate on why you believe it to be illogical and irrational as opposed to what you firmly believe in?

Atheism is the lack of a belief in a god, nothing more. It doesn't offer solutions or anything else for that matter.


Atheism isn't a religion you cannot convert to it, why are you treating it as one?

Science offers solutions, but can back them up, religion can't back up their claims, which is the logical approach? People don't like that science can't give them all the answers they want or the ones they want to hear so they ignore it, which is "blissful ignorance"

no there's a set logic for the world and ignorance is clearly defined.

I firmly believe in nothing, short of what can be proven to me, to do otherwise would be irrational.