Here Is Your Holy Man, Bathed In The Blood Of Inno

WTF? i thought this site was about FFXI

I'd still argue that is your opinion, and not a fact. As for who said anything about pacifism, I was making a point, that we got where we are by being ruthless, and even though we no longer have a need to be that way for survival, we are.. A large portion (if not the majority) of us will still take advantage of people and opportunities if we perceive a possible gain to come from it (however minor or major it may be).. The fact that you are more likely to see someone just keep walking when someone is having trouble, or just assume someone else will help them and keep going, or just be like "*** them" all together, to me, IMHO illustrates my points and beliefs on the matter.

At any rate, I openly admit this is all IMO.. But it's one that won't change, sure I see people do selfless acts all the time, people put their lives in danger to save someone else, it's far from uncommon.. But it's still not as common as someone attacking/killing another human being, usually for no real good reason.. (believe it or not, not wanting to have to give up half of everything you own to your husband/wife in a divorce is not a reason to put a contract on their head, someone *** your wife/girlfriend behind your back is not a reason to kill the both of them.. Someone tried to rip you off in a drug deal is not a good reason to shoot them.)

What part of what you say is "my opinion", do you find to be disagreeable?
I'm just trying to understand what part of my opinion you are deeming to be less correct than yours?

Does that make people evil?
Not at all.

Your opinion that actions don't make a person evil, or that evil actions aren't indicative that a person is evil.

You thought wrong.

Now it's all about murder threads, abuse, dead puppies
and our favorite, WoW threads soon will be followed by halo crap? who knows.

Forgot CoD.

Can you actually answer my questions?
I know your position, I want to know why it's your position.
Hell maybe I didn't word that out the way I thought it did, anywhoo.
WHy?

What part of what you say is "my opinion", do you find to be disagreeable?
I'm just trying to understand why my opinion is deemed less correct than yours?
I bolded a few things in the first portion, those things illustrate our core being.
Selfishness, selfishness drives both "good and evil"
On the flip side, why do people help others in the first place?
You can say they don't help them because it serves no purpose for them, and that they'd rather say "*** em", but what purpose does helping others serve other than a reward by either feeling good about yourself or other benefits.
It's easy to step on someone else being selfish beings an all.
It's also easy to only look at death as a bad thing, rather than the circle of life.

I wish it were as easy as you say it for people to change in one lifespan (65ish?), people really do not understand how easily their brain can be manipulated regardless of how you want to perceive reality, it will drive you to just keep going in circles while watching others shot straight up or down, but then when the coast is clear it would already be too late to rewrite your history.

The concept of life really is a wonder to behold, if only we can see a glimpse of the All-Knowing, but alas life is an adventure for the unlikely (which is why you should never allow your brain to rest or be corrupted), the struggle to find purpose and meaning for each is all but the same ending; imperfect beings.

Still not sure exactly what it is your asking, from what I read, you're asking what part of your opinion it is I disagree with exactly (I'm not saying my opinion is any more valid or in your words, less correct) and I answered that.

In times past, the things at our core that now drive the tendency to not help, rather than help others, helped us survive, today it drives us to do "evil" things..

-_-
I will rephrase.
Why do you believe your opinion is more correct than mine?
I am just wanting to define the reasoning behind it.
I will also express what I'm not wanting to ask.
I don't want to know what my opinion is, I want to know why[/i] you disagree with it.

evil cannot exist with out good.
Both live at the same level in everyone, it's the actions we take that make the biggest difference.

Actually we have grown quite a lot as a society in some aspects, if you can't see that you need a lot of reading to see how things were done back then.

Some of the population is creating an open mind set, hence why I say some, because most of it is very unintelligent.

I'd still argue that is your opinion, and not a fact. As for who said anything about pacifism, I was making a point, that we got where we are by being ruthless, and even though we no longer have a need to be that way for survival, we are.. A large portion (if not the majority) of us will still take advantage of people and opportunities if we perceive a possible gain to come from it (however minor or major it may be).. The fact that you are more likely to see someone just keep walking when someone is having trouble, or just assume someone else will help them and keep going, or just be like "*** them" all together, to me, IMHO illustrates my points and beliefs on the matter.

At any rate, I openly admit this is all IMO.. But it's one that won't change, sure I see people do selfless acts all the time, people put their lives in danger to save someone else, it's far from uncommon.. But it's still not as common as someone attacking/killing another human being, usually for no real good reason.. (believe it or not, not wanting to have to give up half of everything you own to your husband/wife in a divorce is not a reason to put a contract on their head, someone *** your wife/girlfriend behind your back is not a reason to kill the both of them.. Someone tried to rip you off in a drug deal is not a good reason to shoot them.)

I don't say your opinion is any less correct then mine, that's the very nature of opinions.

I simply believe humans deep down, are generally evil, since we haven't cast off the ties of out-dated survival mechanisms.. They now drive us to do evil acts, when it was needed to survive, it was for survival, now that's it's no longer needed, it's nothing more then exploitation, which IMO is just evil.

As for why I disagree with your opinion, why does anyone else disagree with anyone else's opinion? Because they have differing opinions that don't agree with each other. Simply put, you see the glass half full, I see the glass half empty, it's just a matter of perception.

This is exactly why marriage is suppose to be 50% of your religion to God, since evil is much easier to achieve when you are not married and/or have no responsibility.

Actually we have grown quite a lot as a society in some aspects, if you can't see that you need a lot of reading to see how things were done back then.

Some of the population is creating an open mind set, hence why I say some, because most of it is very unintelligent.

Ugh =/ once again, I never said your opinion is any more or less correct or just than mine. Read that line a few times through, you seem to be stuck on the assumption that I hold my opinion up as if it has more value than yours.

Second, I have the opinions I do, because I just do, why do you have the opinions you do? Because of what you've seen through your life.. You're making this all so much more complicated and abstract than it needs to be. What I've seen of humans, gives me the opinions I have. It's not just some blind, broad assumption, it's what I've witnessed through my life.

Third, when exploitation is for survival, then it is just that, for survival, it's no more or less evil than a snake squeezing the life out of a smaller animal so that it can eat and continue to survive. Now assume that snake evolved and no longer needed to continue those actions to survive, it would be strangling the life out of something just for the sake of doing it, that same action then becomes evil, in my opinion. Assuming the animal posed no threat to it and the snake was the aggressor, it need not kill to eat, or protect itself, it's taking life simply because of an outdated survival mechanism.

Nothing is fact in this world, it is what you make of it.

There's nothing "holy" about this guy. Like the article said, he's evil.

Creating a priestly hierarchy is among the greatest blunders in Roman Catholicism. Placing elevated spiritual authority in the hands of those who desire it, is at odds with everything Christianity is supposed to stand for.