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Aliens Are Monitoring Our Nukes, Worry Ex-Air Forc
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By Asura.Knightofdragon 2010-09-24 06:06:13
I always found it intresting how all UFO's are Disc Shape!! I think this why we can;t do space travel bc we don't space our spaceships DISC Shaped!!
Anyone else find this intresting that these news story happened after US sign'd treaty with Russia to remove coldwar warheads?
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By Leviathan.Remoraforever 2010-09-24 06:07:43
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I think a lot of military bases make up rumors to keep people away. I haven't noticed that. But I've only worked on like 4 and visited a few others.
I'd think it'd be exactly the opposite, I'd want to see wtf is goin' on.
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Asura.Knightofdragon said: I always found it intresting how all UFO's are Disc Shape!! I think this why we can;t do space travel bc we don't space our spaceships DISC Shaped!!
Anyone else find this intresting that these news story happened after US sign'd treaty with Russia to remove coldwar warheads?
It's true that it's completely odd that they're saucer-shaped. Only problem is 9/10 UFO encounters are either horribly handled... Or really fake.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 06:10:32
its not aliens, its the FBI.
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By Leviathan.Remoraforever 2010-09-24 06:13:49
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: its not aliens, its the FBI.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 06:15:56
Aliens could give a ***less about us, but the FBI has been monitoring us since day 1. Implanting chips in babies, using Mexicans as cheap labor then shipping them off, tapping phones, patrolling the internet.
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By Siren.Blaire 2010-09-24 06:26:18
Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device.
It's DEFINITELY not true on tactical nuclear weapons. There have been accidental firings of nuclear artillery and accidental explosion of munitions for said artillery on a few occasions. Tactical nuclear weapons are the highest at risk of accidental detonation because they are meant to be used a lot easier. Now if you're talking about an ICBM or something, then yes, those would be almost impossible to set off accidentally. But there are several warheads and tactical nuclear devices that multiple countries possess that can be triggered relatively easy. Besides, not all the countries possessing nuclear weapons have the same security standards. Do you really think India, China, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel have all the fail-safes on their stockpiles of nukes that the UK, US, and Russia do? France is the only other country i know of with nukes, but IDK how adamant they are about security on them. Probably relatively high. Supposedly, the events these groups of people are talking about happened around the world, not just in the US and Russia.
And as for nanotechnology... Just like any other form of technology they would require some amount of electrical impulse to control. In other words, these nano "machines" would easily succumb to an EMP just the same as a cell phone. Even if they were constructed of biological material and utilized a network of impulse "wiring," (You couldn't control them reliably if they were merely a neural network) they would still fail to function the moment an EMP effect took place. If a population relied on these to protect themselves from disease then the second they went offline they'd have absolutely no immune system. Evolution has a way of doing that, when something becomes obsolete it tends to go away completely. Wasted energy. Then they would easily contract disease and pathogens, even if it was one that didn't traditionally travel cross-species because they would have absolutely no real immune system. Thus, dead aliens. Also keep in mind that nano technology would be much too small to build in protection against EMPs.
And I've said this before but you're making an assumption most people tend to make automatically. You're assuming that if there were aliens advanced enough to come here that they evolved in a similar fashion as we did and have the same grasp on technology we did. Chances of them having all the same resources we have on Earth are reasonably low, and the chances of them utilizing them in the same fashion is tremendously low. Not only would evolution have probably taken a totally different turn for this sapient species, it would have been entirely different for most life on their planet. First of all, the nutrients that occur naturally on their planet would likely not be present on ours, as there is a decent probability their planet would revolve around a different type of star(s). All of this would likely lead them to entirely different technological advancements than us, because technology progresses based on need. Their needs would be way different than ours simply because of diversity. So the concept of nanotechnology may never have dawned on them, same for nuclear energy. If they could traverse the galaxy then they probably know the concept because its not that advanced when it comes down to the complexity of physics, but whether or not they actually used it for anything is an entirely different story.
But then there's always the possibility that we are the only species (or first if you prefer that word) to accomplish the things we've done. In essence, we are actually counterproductive when it comes to survival, since we are slowly killing off or using up everything we will eventually need to survive. In a sense, we are a terrible evolutionary product because we've kind of taken control into our own hands. Once you become aware of change it is much easier to control it. If you're willing to consider the possibility of intelligent life in the universe other than us then you also have to consider the possibility that we're the first. Is it unlikely? Yes, so is evolution taking a path that would ultimately undo the balance it was meant to create (us).
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 06:28:25
Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends.
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By Siren.Blaire 2010-09-24 06:33:30
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends.
He's pretty much only talking about ICBM's and things like trident missiles, etc which are very high-yield. They're virtually impossible to accidentally fire, but then again they've said nuclear power plants were fail-proof before too with their built in security. Devices of this nature require a whole lot of collaboration between many people to launch, and they absolutely will not detonate without absolutely perfect conditions.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-24 06:59:39
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends.
That's not an accident, nor part of the technical operations that go into arming and firing a nuclear weapon.
There are some very low-yield weapons that are used primarily for sinking mountains for the purposes of bunker-clearing, however, they typically have no more yield than an Fuel Air Explosive or Air Burst weapon, and as such, wouldn't have any more failsafes than such a weapon.
Nuclear reactors are a different beast altogether. There have only been two meltdowns, the infamous Chernobyl incident, and the less known SRE (Sodium Reactor Experiment) in California. Both of these were the result of gross negligence and poor engineering. A reactor is not built for malicious intent, where a bomb is, and therefore, a bomb is created with the desire to be as difficult as functionally possible, to use.
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By Siren.Blaire 2010-09-24 07:17:49
But Zicdeh, you cannot overlook the risks of munitions such as nuclear artillery shells. Are you familiar with the "Katie" for example? It weighs about a 1/4 ton and has a higher yield than the bombs dropped on Japan. This artillery shell can be fired out of a mobile howitzer and has yields of like 20 kilotons.
Typically, nuclear artillery shells were detonated well above the ground level to cause the most damage and increase its over blast radius. This also made fallout a lot smaller,or if done correctly, nonexistent. These shells are meant to be used when you actually have friendly troops on the ground. They are that controlled and deadly, yet they have little in the way of failsafes compared to, say, a Trident missile.
They used to detonate these above treelines, which was VERY deadly. Imagine splintering trees propelled by a nuclear explosion flying at you. They are by any and every means a very deadly weapon and dangerously unprotected in comparison to other delivery methods.
I'm pretty sure the US has stopped using nuclear artillery all together now, but I'm sure several countries still do. At any rate, these shells are certainly more dangerous than bunker busters and charges used to clear out mountains. You're talking more destructive force than the bomb dropped on japan fired out of a howitzer. And they fired these in barrages.
Granted anything close to an EMP in effect wouldn't cause any harm to these munitions, there are several types of smaller rocket propelled nuclear weapons and such that could be.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-24 07:35:52
Siren.Blaire said: But Zicdeh, you cannot overlook the risks of munitions such as nuclear artillery shells. Are you familiar with the "Katie" for example? It weighs about a 1/4 ton and has a higher yield than the bombs dropped on Japan. This artillery shell can be fired out of a mobile howitzer and has yields of like 20 kilotons.
Typically, nuclear artillery shells were detonated well above the ground level to cause the most damage and increase its over blast radius. This also made fallout a lot smaller,or if done correctly, nonexistent. These shells are meant to be used when you actually have friendly troops on the ground. They are that controlled and deadly, yet they have little in the way of failsafes compared to, say, a Trident missile.
They used to detonate these above treelines, which was VERY deadly. Imagine splintering trees propelled by a nuclear explosion flying at you. They are by any and every means a very deadly weapon and dangerously unprotected in comparison to other delivery methods.
I'm pretty sure the US has stopped using nuclear artillery all together now, but I'm sure several countries still do. At any rate, these shells are certainly more dangerous than bunker busters and charges used to clear out mountains. You're talking more destructive force than the bomb dropped on japan fired out of a howitzer. And they fired these in barrages.
Granted anything close to an EMP in effect wouldn't cause any harm to these munitions, there are several types of smaller rocket propelled nuclear weapons and such that could be.
Really, no matter the yield, it's still not possible to trigger the physics-package of a nuke, unless it was intentional. There's a million ways to prevent the critical chain reaction, but only one way to achieve it.
If you can cite an accidental fission or fusion detonation, I'd like to see it. There's a huge difference between the weapon accidentally being "Delivered" and actually detonating with the intended force. Often, when a fission weapon fails, the explosive charge to compress the material to critical mass causes a sizable explosion, but not the critical mass used to achieve nuclear fission and result in the proper explosion.
Siren.Blaire said:
And I've said this before but you're making an assumption most people tend to make automatically. You're assuming that if there were aliens advanced enough to come here that they evolved in a similar fashion as we did and have the same grasp on technology we did. Chances of them having all the same resources we have on Earth are reasonably low, and the chances of them utilizing them in the same fashion is tremendously low. Not only would evolution have probably taken a totally different turn for this sapient species, it would have been entirely different for most life on their planet. First of all, the nutrients that occur naturally on their planet would likely not be present on ours, as there is a decent probability their planet would revolve around a different type of star(s). All of this would likely lead them to entirely different technological advancements than us, because technology progresses based on need. Their needs would be way different than ours simply because of diversity. So the concept of nanotechnology may never have dawned on them, same for nuclear energy. If they could traverse the galaxy then they probably know the concept because its not that advanced when it comes down to the complexity of physics, but whether or not they actually used it for anything is an entirely different story.
Chemistry and Physics are currently understood to be universal. An Alien species won't have any magical elements that cause them to differ all that much, though the planet such a civilization might hail from could be vastly different. Currently, the only assumption about an alien civilization that we can make, is that they know how to calculate physics. That alone is more than enough to destroy anything. E=MC^2. Total annihilation is literally as simple as that equation.
If we were ever besieged from Orbit, it'd be Game Over. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
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By Asura.Knightofdragon 2010-09-24 08:21:41
Siren.Blaire said: But Zicdeh, you cannot overlook the risks of munitions such as nuclear artillery shells. Are you familiar with the "Katie" for example? It weighs about a 1/4 ton and has a higher yield than the bombs dropped on Japan. This artillery shell can be fired out of a mobile howitzer and has yields of like 20 kilotons.
Typically, nuclear artillery shells were detonated well above the ground level to cause the most damage and increase its over blast radius. This also made fallout a lot smaller,or if done correctly, nonexistent. These shells are meant to be used when you actually have friendly troops on the ground. They are that controlled and deadly, yet they have little in the way of failsafes compared to, say, a Trident missile.
They used to detonate these above treelines, which was VERY deadly. Imagine splintering trees propelled by a nuclear explosion flying at you. They are by any and every means a very deadly weapon and dangerously unprotected in comparison to other delivery methods.
I'm pretty sure the US has stopped using nuclear artillery all together now, but I'm sure several countries still do. At any rate, these shells are certainly more dangerous than bunker busters and charges used to clear out mountains. You're talking more destructive force than the bomb dropped on japan fired out of a howitzer. And they fired these in barrages.
Granted anything close to an EMP in effect wouldn't cause any harm to these munitions, there are several types of smaller rocket propelled nuclear weapons and such that could be.
Thow what you saying is True, its also False, Even Artillery fired Nukes can't just be fired and expected to explode on in-pact, thow some countrys "May" Thow doubtful allow a nuke to be like this most have to be armed remotely or even by Key/password be4 launch,
Again Most people don't know this but most countrys acturraly have Nukes in there weapon aresanail but are dis-armed and stored, witch in case of war may take days be4 prepairing them for launch!!
South africa beening one of those countrys who have dis-armed all of our nukelair aresainail, but still hold them in storagecells for use if nessery
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-24 12:06:30
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I think a lot of military bases make up rumors to keep people away. I haven't noticed that. But I've only worked on like 4 and visited a few others. I guess I meant more on the really famous ones, like Area 51. They get you making rumors about aliens instead of the real testing they do, maybe? Idk, I thought it made sense. :3
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 12:27:34
Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch
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By Asura.Xabis 2010-09-24 12:35:57
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-24 12:40:05
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I think a lot of military bases make up rumors to keep people away. I haven't noticed that. But I've only worked on like 4 and visited a few others. I guess I meant more on the really famous ones, like Area 51. They get you making rumors about aliens instead of the real testing they do, maybe? Idk, I thought it made sense. :3 I think it's more people. The military generally tries to avoid most publicity almost religiously. It goes so far to set policy on things that seem completely unrelated like treating or in this care not treating service members of their medical problems just because the treatment might results in publicity if it got out you were on something when something bad happened etc
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-24 12:54:19
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch
Bush wasn't dumb enough to, I think we're in the clear for now, though in a generation or two... Well. Seeing how worked up some dudes can get over Facebook "Friend scores" and Which console you choose to play, it wouldn't surprise me if World War III was caused by someone arguing about how Mint Chip is The best *** ice Cream ever!!!!
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-24 12:59:40
Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch
Bush wasn't dumb enough to, I think we're in the clear for now, though in a generation or two... Well. Seeing how worked up some dudes can get over Facebook "Friend scores" and Which console you choose to play, it wouldn't surprise me if World War III was caused by someone arguing about how Mint Chip is The best *** ice Cream ever!!!!
Oh no you didn't.... Mint ice cream is a sin.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-24 13:00:57
/nukes
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-24 13:01:38
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch Well unless you go around rewiring/reprogramming everything it's physically impossible for just 1 person to do so
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 13:01:53
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch
Bush wasn't dumb enough to, I think we're in the clear for now, though in a generation or two... Well. Seeing how worked up some dudes can get over Facebook "Friend scores" and Which console you choose to play, it wouldn't surprise me if World War III was caused by someone arguing about how Mint Chip is The best *** ice Cream ever!!!!
Oh no you didn't.... Mint ice cream is a sin. anything mint flavored tastes like hot ***mixed with *** garbage
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-24 13:04:10
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Siren.Blaire said: Odin.Zicdeh said: There's no risk of accidentally arming a nuclear weapon. It's simply not possible. Like I said, there is a very specific chain of events that has to happen in perfect order, that simply can't happen by any other means than the single intentional path. This may not be specifically true on Low-Yield (Tactical) warheads, but on high-yield (Strategic) weapons, there's no outside way to arm them, any non-specific input like that would trigger one of the 150,000 Failsafes built into such a device. tl;dr
Yeah, that chain of events is, or was actually... Bush raising his finger, Bush pushes big red button, world ends. wickit dont matter how the setup is, it only takes one dumbass to turn the world into mulch
Bush wasn't dumb enough to, I think we're in the clear for now, though in a generation or two... Well. Seeing how worked up some dudes can get over Facebook "Friend scores" and Which console you choose to play, it wouldn't surprise me if World War III was caused by someone arguing about how Mint Chip is The best *** ice Cream ever!!!!
Oh no you didn't.... Mint ice cream is a sin. anything mint flavored tastes like hot ***mixed with *** garbage I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ;
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-24 13:05:27
Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?!
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-24 13:06:31
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?! If it's 95% chocolate and .000001% mint then sure. Why ruin delicious chocolate with mint? Makes me sad.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-24 13:07:46
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?! If it's 95% chocolate and .000001% mint then sure. Why ruin delicious chocolate with mint? Makes me sad. Cause it's yummy!
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-24 13:08:47
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?! If it's 95% chocolate and .000001% mint then sure. Why ruin delicious chocolate with mint? Makes me sad. Cause it's yummy! :{
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-24 13:10:31
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?! If it's 95% chocolate and .000001% mint then sure. Why ruin delicious chocolate with mint? Makes me sad. Cause it's yummy! :{ No sad face!!!!
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-09-24 13:38:31
Caitsith.Zefiris said: I don't know quantum physics but I don't think there are aliens in our solar system. And if they're somewhere in our galaxy, I still don't understand why they would want to come here.
Same reason why we would want to send out technology to monitor them if we knew for a fact they existed. Curiosity. The desire to better understand our place within existence by observing other forms of life in their natural habitat. If aliens existed I would ask instead why they wouldn't want to observe us. Not saying we're that great. Just saying we are a piece to the puzzle they aren't. So understanding life as a whole would include understanding us.
I don't think this article is about that though. The fact that these people were asked to remain hush on the issue per the government special services would indicate they are testing out their own technology and don't want it to become public for obvious reasons.
What the general public knows about our current technologies doesn't even scrape the surface. This will remain this way for as long as the world isn't united under 1 banner. I'd rather other countries didn't have our technology at their disposal.
Tbh I'd even venture out and say 99% of the "UFO" sightings that weren't concluded as hoax were in fact technologies made on this very planet by humans. Testing out newer technological advances in practical settings.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-24 13:40:22
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: I kinda associate mint with chewing gum and toothpaste. Sugary-minty things are gross. ; ; Even those chocolate mint thingies they leave on hotel pillows!?! even those, they taste like hot ***mixed in with gasoline and two tons of sugar
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-24 14:00:03
You see my point, such petty things are cause for so much animosity! Almost enough to pop Ix'Drk!!!
Anyway, the thought of why Aliens would want to come to our planet is an interesting thing to think about. We only have ourselves as something to base our guesses and haphazard theories on. But, just watch Dirty Jobs once, and you'll see a few dozen people sticking random things in random orifices, Yes, it's a water snake, I don't know why it needs a microchip in it's *** to determine that.
If we treat ***we see in our garden like that, what would we as a species do, if humanity discovered a civilization it it's bronze age?
We'd need a lot of astro-glide, that's for damn sure.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/23/aliens-monitoring-nukes-worry-ex-air-force-officers/?test=faces
Quote: Captain Robert Salas was on duty in Montana in 1967 when a UFO shut down the nuclear missiles on his base. And he's hardly the only one to make such a claim.
On Monday, six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about similar events at the National Press Club, all centering around unidentified flying objects and nuclear missiles. They plan to urge the government to publicly confirm the incidents, stating that they were ordered never to discuss the events.
"We're talking about unidentified flying objects, as simple as that," Salas told FoxNews.com. "They're often known as UFOs, you could call them that," he added. Salas, a former U.S. Air Force nuclear missile launch officer, will host the event along with researcher Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites.
According to the pair, witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby.
"I was on duty when an object came over and hovered directly over the site," Salas said, regarding the March 16, 1967, event at Malmstrom AFB in Montana. "The missiles shut down, 10 Minuteman missiles. And the same thing happened at another site a week later," he said.
Are they evidence of unknown military action from a foreign country, or are these extraterrestrial visitors? Salas thinks the answer is clear -- and finds it curious that they're so interested in our nuclear arsenal.
"There's a strong interest [in our missiles] by these objects, wherever they come from. I personally think they're not from planet Earth."
Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men claim the Air Force warned them never to disclose details of the events.
"The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it," Salas said. Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted -- both then and now -- to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation."
The group plans to distribute declassified U.S. government documents at the event that they claim will substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.
"This is only the tip of the iceberg, these stories," Salas told FoxNews.com.
Interesting
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