First Amendment

because thats what we need in this world... more ***!

I live in NYC. I watched the towers fall, I watched all the ***happen.

I still don't see what the big deal is about putting a cultural center there.

Furthermore if you look into the backround of the man who is building this mosque you'll find that he is an immense anti-american and will not even condemn known terrorist groups.

The point is the same as it was in the 1960's towards minorities just changed to suit something new.

Dude, he was one of the Bush Administration's official envoys to the Muslim world after 9/11. Republicans said he was the pinnacle of moderate Muslim tolerance and served as an example against extremism.

Any real American...

...is one of the most politically loaded ways to ever start a sentence. Not even Americans themselves are in agreement about the history and politics leading up to the 9/11 attacks. Saying that Osama bin Laden was motivated to become a militant because of the US military's occupation of Saudi Arabia is not "un-American," it's the truth. It doesn't mean he supports bin Laden, or that we were wrong to do so. Or in any way minimizes the evilness of the act. His actual quote on Hamas was simply: "I am a peace builder. I will not allow anybody to put me in a position where I am seen by any party in the world as an adversary or as an enemy." Hardly seems like a bomb-wearing Allahu Ackbar-screaming terrorist supporter to me. I don't support everything he says. But the neat thing about America is that as an American, (which Feisal Abdul Rauf is, by the way), you get to have different opinions without the government shutting you down for it.

In truth I have a rather hard time finding unbiased sources of news to begin with. I generally switch between networks, and depending on the network the analyzation of his words will vary from radical to insightful.

Isn't it true that Fox News cannot be brought to court over misinformation or slander because they clarified their establishment as an entertainment provider instead of a news cast?

They were the first, but are hardly the only ones who have jumped on board since.

Isn't it true that Fox News cannot be brought to court over misinformation or slander because they clarified their establishment as an entertainment provider instead of a news cast?

Well a few things First; as I have kept up with this current event, it has been my understanding that the VAST majority of people who are opposed to the building of a "Cultural center/Mosque" near Ground Zero as so opposed because they just think it's entirely inappropriate, not because they want to strip Islamic people of their constitutional rights. Many people often liken it to building a Nazi cultural center across the street from a holocaust museum. While it may serve many purposes, one is to provoke insult to the victims of that tragedy. Personally I have no objection to the rights these people are afforded by our constitution, I just think they should do the right thing and build it somewhere else. I mean one cannot deny that the events on 9/11 were entirely inspired by a warped interpretation of Islam that by itself has a unique and exclusive relationship with terrorism. Secondly; Jon Stewart is self admittedly a political satirist. He (The daily show), are indeed funny but everyone needs to be aware that they manipulate news media as they see fit to make their jokes. That includes not showing the rest of the clip that puts the funny/satirical part in its proper context. [/quote[quote=Cerberus.Zandra]Well a few things First; as I have kept up with this current event, it has been my understanding that the VAST majority of people who are opposed to the building of a "Cultural center/Mosque" near Ground Zero as so opposed because they just think it's entirely inappropriate, not because they want to strip Islamic people of their constitutional rights. Many people often liken it to building a Nazi cultural center across the street from a holocaust museum. While it may serve many purposes, one is to provoke insult to the victims of that tragedy. Personally I have no objection to the rights these people are afforded by our constitution, I just think they should do the right thing and build it somewhere else. I mean one cannot deny that the events on 9/11 were entirely inspired by a warped interpretation of Islam that by itself has a unique and exclusive relationship with terrorism. Secondly; Jon Stewart is self admittedly a political satirist. He (The daily show), are indeed funny but everyone needs to be aware that they manipulate news media as they see fit to make their jokes. That includes not showing the rest of the clip that puts the funny/satirical part in its proper context.

It's almost impossible to find unbiased news these days. It turns out, echo chambers of radically biased news that tell you what you already believe earn higher ratings than those that don't. It's uncomfortable being told information that challenges your belief system.

It's not a partisan thing. Both parties do it. At this point, we're so divided into two camps that refuse to even listen to someone from the other side (just scream "bias!" and ignore it entirely) that news has basically become the entertainment equivalent of Jerry Springer. People only care about "winning," even if doing so severely hurts the political process and destroys the open dialogue necessary for the running of a democracy.