Ranger Sidewinder Help

Ok can rangers please post some sidewinder builds and explain whats better to use? I'm espicially confused on what feet to use (Hachi, Rutters) Some RNG tell me to STR ***, others say AGI so Help me out :(

If you're Hume, I'd recommend Marine M Boots. STR+3, AGI+2. Otherwise Hachiryu are slightly superior to Rutters, damagewise, and also give a bit of R.ACC.

What about relic feet? Still Hachi?

This is what I usually use:

*Anwig has Str+4 WSacc+15 Acc+10 Att+5(used for melee jobs primarily)

Sadly I do not own the Hachiryu Pants, I swap Skadi in for Legs depending on if I need the Store TP on WS or not. When daytime I use Novia.

I generally only Ranger for high end enemies, which is why I use Behemoth +1 instead of a Vulcan's. Same with why I use Seiryu's Kote over my Blood Finger Guantlets.

This is mine as a Mithra


Str wsacc/rtk/racc for head

I will change some STR for racc if its an evasive mob.

STR ***! Just follow the RNG's Hierarchy of WS STR > RAtt > AGI. AGI will really only do something when it is in massive quantities in comparison to STR. Like Seiryu's Kote for example, 15 AGI and 10 RAcc is the sex for a low RAcc WS for mods and RAcc.

This is the set that I use:

But also keep in mind this is specifically geared around keeping a 5 hit /SAM with my current bow. In the end 5 hit keeping Axe grip with Hachi pants is going to be the best.

As for WS feet I'd use your RSE like someone mentioned earlier. AFv2 feet are nice and all but the 3 STR 2 AGI beats it for WS.

Edit: This is for /NIN or /WAR. Only difference between /SAM one is Mekki Shakki

Does 3Str 2Agi beat 12ratt and -4enmity for enemies that matter?

I don't really have a for sure way to test that but when I was doing my testing for my RSE feet (4 STR) Vs. AFv2 (10 RAtt) for WS the 4 STR blew it out of the water. So I'd imagine the 3 STR 2 AGI would win by a bit if not break close to even. As for Enm- just merit Stealth shot a little. I went 2/5 and will probably leave it there to go 3/5 on Flashy.

It does not. Scout's wins pretty much always.

Edit: It's almost the same argument for comparing Scout's belt to Buccaneer's belt. In which Scout's belt is the winner there as well.

I use Hachiryu Sune-ate simply because it gives me the STP (coupled with Hachiryu Haidate) I need to keep my hit-build. It still works pretty good on Sidewinder damage, but obviously does better with Slug Shot.

Just parsed the 4 STR Vs. AFv2 feet..

AFv2(10 RAtt):

Sidewinder:

Dmg: 7035
WSkill %: 100%
Hit/Miss: 10/1
WS.Acc %: 90.91 %
WS.Low/Hi: 636/798
WS.Avg: 703.50


Creek M. Clomps(4STR):

Sidewinder:

Dmg: 12129
WSkill %: 100%
Hit/Miss: 15/1
WS.Acc %: 93.75 %
WS.Low/Hi: 667/907
WS.Avg: 808.60




RSE beat it by over 100 DMG average. I'd say 3 STR and 2 AGI will win hands down.

Edit: This was parsed on Ruthven btw.

what I use atm.

Can't quantify one piece of gear like that, you have to evaluate your entire setup. If you are packing alot of ratt and capping pdif, then more ratt isnt going to help, str will. On basically all things you do not have capped pdif, you're still better off with ratt.

I use skadi feet on ws now, used to use scouts. On capped ratck mobs (anything short of NM's) you'll see str has a higher return then scouts. Skadi parses higher on greater colibri, and about 20dmg lower on big mobs like Odin. I personally found no matter what I was better off with skadi feet, and personally place them as the best feet for rng. If you don't cap archery merits however, you'll probably see a higher return out of Scouts. Hands down, scout's +1 are potentially the highest dmg feet for ranger.

I do disagree on skotes to ws in. I only feel you should use them on a gun/xbow or if you can't hit the damn mob. I've parsed a lot and found the following, on SW, 1str = 2.5ratk = 3agi (you can also check this out, old thread but shows the difference in agi vs str on sw and ss. http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=7&mid=1161924072301798838&num=117&page=1). For those who disagree, throw on a 1str earring then change it to a drone, you're ws dmg is virtually identical. So i'd use blood hands or skadi hands if you can afford the acc hit.

Next thing, in parses all over the RNG threads, breeze/sea gorget has a higher dmg output vs acc mod then using a hope torque. Hope should only be used to TP in.


edit: Before I get flamed and rated down for the torque comment, hope torque will have a higher dmg output with a lower acc then a sea gorget. For consistancy and acc on sw, I'd use a sea gorget.

Can check this post, has a link to dl a file that has info in it. Shows sidewinder builds for birds if i recall, shows 3 basic subs, and how str and agi affect your sidewinder.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/9098/sidewinder

was tired last night but here is my item set >.> kinda a bit late to post....but meh!

Lv80 Yoichinoyumi
DMG96 Delay524
R.Att+15 R.Acc+25
"Namas" Arrow"

I can hear your Yoichi crying for a RNG who knows what they're doing from here.

lol are you serious with that AGI+5 ring

My slug gear:

Well it does say in his comment box Triumph for Sidewinder but still.... the AGI, RAcc, RAtt+1 set earrings? not Amemet +1? Hope torque? ***augments on head? his Yoichi weeps.

lol you guys seriously needs to learn about rng...so much misconception about STR for Sidewinder...look again AGI and STR are both mod...i want to see you outparse me even if im using ebow with my set up...

someone needs to learn about 2fSTR + mod. could out parse that if i threw my own ***at the mob

wow seriously? lol ***really does show how much you know about rng

Hachi set bonus works in incremented gear. so 2 pieces give you STP :3 idk if you're counting that. too distracted by GoW2 atm to do the math

***really does show how much i know about RNG when i out parse better geared RNGs then you daily

lol like me...i see...

show me some SS..cuz i gots some in my ffxiah.com page...

still kinda waiting here...quick got get a brd to 2hr 2xminuet a cor to drk roll with a drk in the pt and Slugwinder something... lol