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 Leviathan.Dubont
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-19 03:19:33  
DO YOU BELIEVE IN UNICORNS??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:20:47  
Leviathan.Dubont said:
DO YOU BELIEVE IN UNICORNS??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Only Charlie <3

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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:21:20  
James 1 (King James Version)

22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

23For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

24For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

25But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

26If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

27Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:24:16  
I believe that the word of God is infallible inspired, message delivered to man for his instruction

19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:25:33  
oh 2 peter 1 19-21 KJV
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-19 03:29:21  
Leviathan.Dubont said:
DO YOU BELIEVE IN UNICORNS??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Yes. But they are rare and always in disguise as Warrant officers
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:34:44  
I believe that dragons and unicorns, and leviathan for that matter at one time were on the earth.

check this out (don't know how to add link hope this works.)

http://www.movies-links.tv/movies/dragons_or_dinosaurs_creation_or_evolution/
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:37:16  
Esaias said:
I believe that dragons and unicorns, and leviathan for that matter at one time were on the earth.

check this out (don't know how to add link hope this works.)

http://www.movies-links.tv/movies/dragons_or_dinosaurs_creation_or_evolution/

Is this supposed to be your idea of a credible source?
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:37:35  
1. Job 41:1
Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
Job 41:1-3 (in Context) Job 41 (Whole Chapter)
2. Psalm 74:14
Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
Psalm 74:13-15 (in Context) Psalm 74 (Whole Chapter)
3. Psalm 104:26
There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.
Psalm 104:25-27 (in Context) Psalm 104 (Whole Chapter)
4. Isaiah 27:1
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Isaiah 27:1-3 (in Context) Isaiah 27 (Whole Chapter)

Twas a real beast.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:39:17  
weewoo i often read your wanting to express your opionion and like to STAY THIRSTY

what would it hurt to watch part of it. not saying the whole thing i just thought it was interesting
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:40:20  
I'm watching it as we speak, but frankly it's like reading an editorial. It's not going to give any knowledge so to speak, but definitely another outlook on things which I am more than open to. Interesting indeed.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:42:52  
anyway my opinion is not what matters.

I try to base responses off of scripture. That way if someone doesn't agree, I am merely quoting my source.

and if the text is divinely inspired, then take it up with the author.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:43:48  
but yeah i never thought of dinosaurs in that light.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:45:54  
I like talking to you a lot more than others in this thread. It's nice to discuss things with someone who won't take every post as an insult to their intelligence.

It usually goes downhill from there, but I do my best to keep mutual respect regardless of direction conversation goes towards.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:50:02  
its not my intelligence in question XD

I do not agree with people lashing out in anger and saying they are protecting God's honor.

If God is truly God he is able to defend his own honor.

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:50:54  
So true, but one can't really help human nature and one's instinct to protect that which they hold dear in mind and spirit.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 03:53:01  
The Bible says I am supposed to share the message with those willing to hear it, but also not to "cast pearls before swine"

so stirring up wrath is never a credible means of discussion.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 03:55:44  
I think many problems come from the whole:

Look but does not see
Hears, but does not listen
Touches, but does not feel, etc.

It's extremely metaphorical but thinking about it will hopefully allow some to catch my drift in a vague manner.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 04:05:06  
I cannot say that men under the banner of religion have not committed crimes against humanity.

But they are men.

Romans 3:10-12 (King James Version)

10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

However to blame God and the religion that others practice while worshiping him cannot be blamed.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 04:08:13  
To blame every man woman and child in america for the deeds of an american would be outrageous.

But, its okay to blame religion for attrocity?

anyway have to go for a while.

I would simply say blame the man whos religion is vain, not the religion of all.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 04:09:10  
(peace) (outpost)

Midget out!
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 04:09:43  
I personally do not believe in God. However, from my point of view which I myself find interesting that assuming God truly existed and is real, I most definitely wouldn't put a single thread of discredit or blame for the circumstances we face on him. However, because I do not, I find religion to be more of a philosophical, idealistic entity that humans share based on their own cultural placement.

Sometimes I surprise myself with my own line of thinking...
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 04:10:22  
Esaias said:
(peace) (outpost)

Midget out!

See ya. Was fun chattin with you.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 04:32:25  
back, was on call.

; ;

I am sorry to hear that you do not believe in God.

I was gonna quote something but I believe its better to refrain for the sake of peace.

May you find the evidence needed to persuade you.
^^
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 04:34:08  
No need to be sorry. Just a personal decision after several years of outer and inner examination.

And please, do not hesitate to speak your piece. I am pretty difficult to offend as long as your intentions are within reason.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 04:37:06  
No need to be bitter dear. Some of us remain civil and take interest in these debates and positions from a scholarly point of view.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-19 04:47:12  
Esaias said:
May you find the evidence needed to persuade you.
^^

This one stood out to me for some reason.
Not so much in a religious sense or point of view but rather an overall objective or process to obtain that which is not tangible or possibly even existent, but rather gives one drive and passion throughout life. Because the moment you become comfortable, complete or content, you die inside and no longer have that fire in you to drive yourself to great things.
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By Esaias 2010-06-19 04:51:07  
2 Timothy 2:23-25

23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;


At the center of this conflict is truth. I only wish to present the scripture.

Romans 10:13-15 (King James Version)

13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
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