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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-03 01:49:16  
that wasn't the point, i was just saying that i thought you misinterpreted that one particular minor thing.
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 01:50:11  
hardly ever uses it once every minute
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 01:51:01  
i understand what you mean, im just saying that an occasional aoe-silence hardly makes shadows useless when that extra tp could have been used for ws.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 01:51:54  
Laeticia said:
hardly ever uses it once every minute
then you are either having bad luck or have terrible subtle blow or not using twilight knife.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-03 01:55:03  
oh, what i said had nothing to do with whether i agree with it or not. so carry on.
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 01:57:07  
silencega isnt a tp move, its a spell. subtle blow would be irrelevent.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 01:59:26  
Laeticia said:
silencega isnt a tp move, its a spell. subtle blow would be irrelevent.
see my previous statement about patterns, he doesnt do it randomly.
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 02:13:02  
in regards to silencega, the current topic in context:

Asura.Yunalaysca said:
it hardly ever uses it to be honest, i'd say every minute or so it does it.

now you say it barely uses it, based on subtle blow and a pattern...

so.... your words not mine. you are just arguing for the sake of it now
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-03 02:15:57  
Laeticia said:
in regards to silencega, the current topic in context:

Asura.Yunalaysca said:
it hardly ever uses it to be honest, i'd say every minute or so it does it.

now you say it barely uses it, based on subtle blow and a pattern...

so.... your words not mine. you are just arguing for the sake of it now

What was probably meant by that quote was, "With Subtle Blow, it'll only get enough TP once per minute, thus using silencega(and a TP move?) only once per minute making it easy to deal with." It's not a contradiction as you're trying to make it out to be.

I cannot say whether or not Yuna's correct because honestly I've never fought the mob and I know nothing about it.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:20:02  
Laeticia said:
in regards to silencega, the current topic in context:

Asura.Yunalaysca said:
it hardly ever uses it to be honest, i'd say every minute or so it does it.

now you say it barely uses it, based on subtle blow and a pattern...

so.... your words not mine. you are just arguing for the sake of it now
perhaps, i do have an arguementitive nature, doesn't change the fact that subbing whm for an extra cure when you dont need that extra cure if you fight him tactfully, in which you are forcing yourself to waste TP on curing yourself from his standard melee attacks, baffles me.
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 02:22:29  
you asked why i subbed whm, i explained the shadows are useless. you argued they were useful vs a mob that constantly strips shadows and barely hits you, for low damage

edited: said nin instead of whm
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:24:37  
Laeticia said:
you asked why i subbed whm, i explained the shadows are useless. you argued they were useful vs a mob that constantly strips shadows and barely hits you, for low damage

edited: said nin instead of whm
for shadows to be useless he would have to literally spam it every 15 seconds or so. and whether or not it hits you for low dmg, you do have to cure yourself occasionally, do you not?
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By Serj 2011-03-03 02:24:59  
Laeticia said:
you asked why i subbed whm, i explained the shadows are useless. you argued they were useful vs a mob that constantly strips shadows and barely hits you, for low damage

edited: said nin instead of whm

Stripping shadows once a minute isn't constantly, and barely hitting you for low damage could = 400+ damage per minute, which is 50 tp in cures, that you could avoid by going /nin. You lose 1 ws every 2 minutes, etc, for no gain from /whm.

There.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Yuna, beating me to posting and all.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-03 02:26:17  
No matter the mob it's still going to hit you 20% of the time, which is about once every 5 attack rounds, that adds up, etc.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:28:50  
Serj said:
Laeticia said:
you asked why i subbed whm, i explained the shadows are useless. you argued they were useful vs a mob that constantly strips shadows and barely hits you, for low damage

edited: said nin instead of whm

Stripping shadows once a minute isn't constantly, and barely hitting you for low damage could = 400+ damage per minute, which is 50 tp in cures, that you could avoid by going /nin. You lose 1 ws every 2 minutes, etc, for no gain from /whm.

There.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Yuna, beating me to posting and all.
ls event is over, so im incredibly bored while waiting for this stupid goobue NM, forum hawk goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 02:29:37  
player evasion caps at 80% even vs wild rabbits?
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-03 02:30:49  
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player evasion caps at 80% even vs wild rabbits?

Um... duh?
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:31:53  
how does a twashtar wielding dnc not know some of the basic game mechanics :S
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By richwood 2011-03-03 02:32:00  
Some things I have solo'd (NOT Brewed or spammed meds, Simply me food,atmas,skill,gear)

All A-Misareaux, including Sobek, Cirein-croin, Kutharei, Heqet, I list those cuase they where the most annoying.

Many A-Vunkerl, The most annoying and hardest here as Nin/Dnc was Dvalinn(A very finesse fight). Also, I would like to try Bukhis and Durinn. I think they will be a bit of a pain but doable.

A-Attohwa, many of the seal NMs are very doable and easy enough. The ghost the is basically immune to stun is highly annoying. had to use all max Def atma inc 100 water resist one. As for many of the NMs beyond Seals, the are a bit harder then I have been able to solo, but duo easily yes. BUT, TUNGI is 'EVIL!'

As for the Vision zone most all NM in those zones are solo-able except the notorious Tahrongi's Glavoid and Chloris, A. they are very hard to solo and I am not sure anyone can. B. the KI are a pain to farm so wasting them on solo attempt leads me not to really try.

The new zone boss are a joke, a well played Nin or Dnc can easily solo KI NM and the Bosses. As for Other NMs like orthus, it is more a matter of fully stacking your atma to avoid their element damage and making sure to not miss stuns and keeping 5 lvs of Mag. Eva. steps on NMs.

In my opinion abyssea is an extremely easy solo or duo if you can not solo.

Non Abyssea solo and when lv cap was 75, Ungar(Rdm Kite), Genbu(Mnk Chi: Rdm Kite: Nin Kite), Despot(Rdm Kite: Cor Kite), JoFort(Cor Kite), Dea (Rng/Sam Kite, used SB and Med. + Barrage and kited around tower: Also did with Cor kite). there are more since I have always loved a true challenge so this is a short list.

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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:35:51  
richwood said:
Some things I have solo'd (NOT Brewed or spammed meds, Simply me food,atmas,skill,gear)

All A-Misareaux, including Sobek, Cirein-croin, Kutharei, Heqet, I list those cuase they where the most annoying.

Many A-Vunkerl, The most annoying and hardest here as Nin/Dnc was Dvalinn(A very finesse fight). Also, I would like to try Bukhis and Durinn. I think they will be a bit of a pain but doable.

A-Attohwa, many of the seal NMs are very doable and easy enough. The ghost the is basically immune to stun is highly annoying. had to use all max Def atma inc 100 water resist one. As for many of the NMs beyond Seals, the are a bit harder then I have been able to solo, but duo easily yes. BUT, TUNGI is 'EVIL!'

As for the Vision zone most all NM in those zones are solo-able except the notorious Tahrongi's Glavoid and Chloris, A. they are very hard to solo and I am not sure anyone can. B. the KI are a pain to farm so wasting them on solo attempt leads me not to really try.

The new zone boss are a joke, a well played Nin or Dnc can easily solo KI NM and the Bosses. As for Other NMs like orthus, it is more a matter of fully stacking your atma to avoid their element damage and making sure to not miss stuns and keeping 5 lvs of Mag. Eva. steps on NMs.

In my opinion abyssea is an extremely easy solo or duo if you can not solo.

Non Abyssea solo and when lv cap was 75, Ungar(Rdm Kite), Genbu(Mnk Chi: Rdm Kite: Nin Kite), Despot(Rdm Kite: Cor Kite), JoFort(Cor Kite), Dea (Rng/Sam Kite, used SB and Med. + Barrage and kited around tower: Also did with Cor kite). there are more since I have always loved a true challenge so this is a short list.

CHEATS!!!!! where is the dnc main D:!!!

aside from that how you been?
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 02:37:18  
ok thats fine. i was saying why i chose whm, and it won easily. bar and shell still helped me as its melee was not even a slight issue, jsut the wind based tp moves. yes it has a pattern of reaving > calam at low hp (or multiple reaving > calam). i barely had to cure myself except vs those moves. i was silenced constantly and silencega stripped shadows constantly. yes i had echo drops but they were barely needed as it barely hit me and hardly did damage.
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By Serj 2011-03-03 02:37:40  
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
how does a twashtar wielding dnc not know some of the basic game mechanics :S

I tried to +1 this, but accidentally hit -1. So, you're at +3, not 1 >_>

Just fyi.
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By Serj 2011-03-03 02:39:17  
Laeticia said:
ok thats fine. i was saying why i chose whm, and it won easily. bar and shell still helped me as its melee was not even a slight issue, jsut the wind based tp moves. yes it has a pattern of reaving > calam at low hp (or multiple reaving > calam). i barely had to cure myself except vs those moves. i was silenced constantly and silencega stripped shadows constantly. yes i had echo drops but they were barely needed as it barely hit me and hardly did damage.

Bar spells from /whm will more than likely do nothing for damage. It only increases your resist rate and only starts being consistent at high numbers (read ~200+)
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:41:25  
Serj said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
how does a twashtar wielding dnc not know some of the basic game mechanics :S

I tried to +1 this, but accidentally hit -1. So, you're at +3, not 1 >_>

Just fyi.
i'll just take it as paybacks for beating you to the post
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By richwood 2011-03-03 02:41:44  
I am well Yuna-Sama (From Candy-sama^^) How about yourself?
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:48:10  
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I am well Yuna-Sama (From Candy-sama^^) How about yourself?
good now, jolly green finally popped
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By Laeticia 2011-03-03 02:51:35  
yeah wow i didnt wiki 1 stat of evasion, lets all freak out. i did not know it was exactly 20%. anyways shell always does something even if bar doesnt. also chance to resist increases as your level increases with respect to the enemy, so chance to resist damage is still better, as i am 90 and zirnitra was "made" for lvl 75s. dnc/whm won easily so you cant argue that it fails or is bad. that has already been proven to be successful. /nin perhaps has some advantages, but /whm also won easily.
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By Serj 2011-03-03 02:52:32  
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
richwood said:
I am well Yuna-Sama (From Candy-sama^^) How about yourself?
good now, jolly green finally popped

...bow trials? I was at that *** a few days ago. The worm on the next trial is being a complete *** to me. 8 hours for the first pop. Haven't gotten a 2nd kill, no show for 5 hours and I've been busy aside from that.

Should get to bed so I can get a head start on the worm tomorrow before events.

Night~
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By Serj 2011-03-03 02:54:14  
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yeah wow i didnt wiki 1 stat of evasion, lets all freak out. i did not know it was exactly 20%. anyways shell always does something even if bar doesnt. also chance to resist increases as your level increases with respect to the enemy, so chance to resist damage is still better, as i am 90 and zirnitra was "made" for lvl 75s. dnc/whm won easily so you cant argue that it fails or is bad. that has already been proven to be successful. /nin perhaps has some advantages, but /whm also won easily.

It's probably a lvl 85-90 nm with really high stats. It's macc won't be low for a 60-80 elemental resist to reliably resist. Shell II is like, 15% MDT. You're almost inhibiting yourself during the fight by going /whm. Try out /nin sometime.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-03-03 02:57:43  
Serj said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
richwood said:
I am well Yuna-Sama (From Candy-sama^^) How about yourself?
good now, jolly green finally popped

...bow trials? I was at that *** a few days ago. The worm on the next trial is being a complete *** to me. 8 hours for the first pop. Haven't gotten a 2nd kill, no show for 5 hours and I've been busy aside from that.

Should get to bed so I can get a head start on the worm tomorrow before events.

Night~
not something i want to hear :|

@laeticia
using a bit of tact when fighting mobs will make the fight incredibly easy, not just your subjob selection.
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