Games You Regret Ever Playing..

XII needed moar Reks. D:

FFXII = KKKXII

I considered Ashe the main character, or as I call her; Princess Hoochie-skirt.

Kefka will always be the best villain imo, Far better than mummy's boy lol.

True. Still not plot-changing like saving his life, but very very true

That game smelled of *** >.>

Eh, Sephiroth annoyed me in that way as well. But Kefka was one of those "bad guys just for the sake of being bad", he really had nothing to him other than being evil.

Getting into that requires a huge discussion about the plot in general... But as you said, cloud was way weaker than sephiroth, until the end when sephiroth gets totally wrecked by Cloud.

Cloud's strength doesn't come from his jenova dna, it comes when he purges himself from it and learns to live apart from it, basically after he gets washed in the life stream, and has to reconstruct who he really is and figure out what is fabrication and what is truth.



That's a very good point, completely valid too, and one of the main reasons I understand why people don't like 7. They are very disjointed and hard to follow, part of that is because of the awkwardness of the translation which is by no means an excuse for it and part of it is because alot of it is made clearer in extra scenes that you aren't obligated to see by playing through the main story.

I admit I didn't really understand most of the story of 7 the first time I played it, but in subsequent play throughs it started to make alot more sense to me.

Which again is why I am willing to concede that it isn't the best game ever, thats really and indefinable term.

And at this point you can totally fault me for my venom toward 8, because I really didn't care to delve into that game after the orphanage twist.

But even after reading squallsdead.com and both learning how the game ends as well as hearing his interpretation I still see the glaring literary flaw in the the orphanage plot twist.

And I can also understand Flionhearts loyalty to 8 over 7 as sort of an underdog deal. 8 is definitely a game that people like to bash (guilty as charged.) and 7 is definitely held in an odd sort of reverence.

But in my experience as a very literary person the story in 7 speaks much more loudly to me than the story in 8 does.

Yar, it was pretty skewed lol.

I don't get how they went from something awesome like fft to that o.o

Every point you have made is now invalid because of agenda. If 8 was your first FF then you are simply biased and will refuse to see logic. I dont argue because I am right and I dont need to explain myself to someone as idiotic as you. FF7's legacy speaks for itself.

Star Wars, I mean FF12, lulz.

Kefka; Destroying things for the lulz.
Sephiroth; Killing people because of how people deviated from the Ancients ways.. which has nothing to do with Sephiroth.
Kuja; Starts a war and decides that if he dies, everyone dies, in short, plans to go out with a bang.

Which is a refreshing change from the villains that you are meant to feel remorse for.

(though if you read into the back-story Kefka was made evil due to an accident including Magicite, and then started dressing the way he did and went insane)

I agree with you about the character's stories, but again Kefka was an extremely shallow villain. A nice change of pace granted, but still.

hahaha, I totally agree with you on that.

The original tactics was worlds better.

I don't like the ivalice they made in that one, and then expanded on in 12.

I always though Kuja was the most successful of the villains. I too loved ix. Besides, he goes Trance and destroys an entire *** world with one spell, that's redonculous

I found he grew with the story tbh. He started as a simple underling, but eventually grew to feel like he deserved all the power of the warring triad.

"Kefka was the first experimental Magitek Knight. The procedure gifted Kefka with incredible magical power, but also shattered his sanity. Kefka became a cruel, destructive madman after the procedure, and eventually acquired a reputation as one of the most dangerous men in the Gestahlian Empire."

FF6 was pretty amazing. It is my 2nd favorite FF.

I was always disappointed as to how simple Kuja was to beat in IX, they should of at least made him a challenge even though you technically lose at the end of the Kuja fight lol.

Other than how I liked how Viera look in the FFTA games than in FF12. FFTA wasn't all that great.

Is FFTA2 any good?

Kuja, as feminine as he is, if my favorite FF villain. He practically does what Kefka does, but does it because he wants to defy his 'purpose', instead of because he's just an ***.

Albedo is my favorite villain of all time, though. An immortal being who get's mind raped when god attempts to chat with him. Eventually leading him to insanity. His actions from then on are aid int he destruction of countless planets and star-clusters, and nearly bring about the end of the universe. Good times.

Well, Kuja destroyed Bran Bal, the capital, and only known city on Terra, which was a small, parasitic planet. He basically made Terra uninhabitable. Kefka actually DID bring about the Apocalypse and became a god of magic. Kuja attempted to destroy existence itself, which was Necron's purpose, but Necron was destroyed. I liked Kuja because he finally learned the error of his ways, but learned too late. His story was kinda tragic. Sephiroth started with a "Oh, my bad." mistake that Jenova was an Ancient, and was his mother. Neither were true. So... Sephiroth is basically a bull-headed idiot, albeit a poetic, rather epic bull-headed idiot. And yeah, I know that he viewed himself as a bit of a monster, but that was how his BS got started.

To be fair, Sephiroth destroyed the entire solar system with math equations. And then fixed it. And then continued to do so over and over again until he died.

And usually, no one died from it. Supernova should have been like Sin's Giga Graviton, If you take too long, and he uses it, game over.

The good thing about 12 was the dominatrix playboy bunny in stilettos and a thong.

And Princess Hoochie-skirt.

The only issue i think ff8 has is Ultimecia. She is not a remarkable antagonist. Now that i think about it maybe that's why ppl hate this ff so much? Specially after the engodly Sephirot.

FF8 has that kind of plot twist where a new and more powerful enemy that you never heard about before suddenly becomes that new boss in the game. This kind sucks, and i actually don't like that type of storytelling. A prefer stories with a single strong antagonist.

Still, i loved the junction system and i enjoyed the romance pictured in the game very much. That's what makes me love ff8 more than any other ff, even though it doesn't have the "poweful enemy that i need to fight against from the start to the end of the game" concept.


Perhaps there was no lead in and you could not even fathom this to happen, but certainly there was a justification. Cid. He was the one that separated everyone in their childhood and he was the one responsable for bringing them together later. It's been nearly 10 years since the last time i played the game, but i think this was explained openly around the end of the third cd.

It was something about Cid and Matron expecting Ultimecia to act, so they decided to create SeeD to fight agaisnt her (yeah everything was always about her from the very begining) and they used the children at the orfanage as soldiers. Well, it's been so long so i'm not sure now. Matron would inherit Ultimecia's powers and they decided to "train" those 6 children to fight and kill her. Something like that.

Also not everyone had lost their memories. There was a point where Irvine says he knew/remembered everyone all from the day they met at Galbadia, but decided to play along with the "i never met you before". He was the only one that didn't use GFs or was not exposed to them for very long (because galbadia didn't make use of them), something on that line.

But all this debate makes me want to play these games again. I played them when i had 13-15 years old, i wonder what i would think about their stories with an adult perpective. (Although im very much tired of both materia and junction systems lol)

Agreed. He did all those things, destroying multiple cities, taking a mega flare to the face, etc, and then a bunch of rag-tag warrior take him out lmao. Admittedly that made 0 sense :D