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does chr affect hate?
 Remora.Ninian
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 12:57:52
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Carbuncle.Ashren said: I thought Pld gear has CHR on it because the mods of most light based WS (not that they should be used).
As far as stats on the AF, it seems like it follows a pattern doesn't it? Dex on hands, Int on Head, Agl on feet and so forth. I think shortly after the game came out SE realized that AF as going to be largely useless on the original jobs and tried to fix that on later AF sets.
Just my observation. No sword WS has a CHR mod.
EDIT: Nor club or staff barring relic staff WS, before you bring those up.
Ramuh.Ilvex said: Thought Pld gear came with chr on it for undead killer and resist charm imo Correct answer, along with SE being random. CHR on Wizard's Gloves ftw?
They should've put CHR on the Hat... since it looks amazing, etc.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 12:58:50
Quote: Gate of Tartarus 60% CHR.
Not that it was MEANT for that, but I'll find a way to use ANYTHING free. Heh. Given that SE originally didn't plan for extensive macroing, I can kind of see that being their logic. It's a very SE thing to do.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-03-25 13:13:46
INT for THF's is for Energy Drain, duh. SE wanted THF's to be the Aspir *** in FFXI, so mobs like Behemoth can't use Meteor 'cause they have no MP! Fact. Maybe <_<
Who knows wth SE was thinking when they slapped random stats on first generation AF (RoZ jobs, not the ToAU and WoTG jobs (they actually put thought into giving the new jobs specific stat increases based on the job instead of randomly)).
Ninja Edit: I think the whole "CHR adding Enmity" rumors came from way back in the day when tanks would sub BST, as Charm = instant hate with a 15 second recast, so they thought Provoke and Enmity in general, worked the same way by having CHR as a mod.
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By Pandemonium.Isiolia 2010-03-25 13:25:23
Ramuh.Ilvex said: Well no stat is useless, you int(or mnd i forget) is part of the equation to see how much dmg you take from magic, chr on blm again resist charm. But no one stacks these stats so they become useless
If you want to stretch it, you can say that CHR is there for Dagger WS. Shadowstitch has a CHR mod, and is available on any job with the skill, which includes BLM.
Technically, /BST would make use of it too, or /DNC as Waltzes have a CHR mod, and so on.
You can find an off-the-wall use for almost anything if you try.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-25 13:29:52
Screw Shadowstich DE is 40% chr modded
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By Pandemonium.Isiolia 2010-03-25 14:39:43
Yes, but DE is only usable by THF and DNC.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 14:52:39
Remora.Ninian said: They should've put CHR on the Hat... since it looks amazing, etc. Doesn't look good with anything but Weskit and AF1 body either, and I'm not a fan of the body. Too poofy :(
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 14:54:51
omg.... I love RDM AF ; -; Cravats represent.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 14:56:13
Remora.Ninian said: omg.... I love RDM AF ; -; Cravats represent. I'm definitely talking about BLM AF >.> Wizard's, not Warlock's =P
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-25 14:57:14
Ninian was just thinking about Mithra + Warlock's Tights. It's an easy thing to do.
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 14:57:26
Oh ***, I can't read. FFFFUUUUUUU.... Okay fine BLM hat is nice, rest isn't. Pants are gross.
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 14:59:14
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Ninian was just thinking about Mithra Warlock's Tights. It's an easy thing to do.
You caught me. ; -;
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 14:59:39
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Ninian was just thinking about Mithra Warlock's Tights. It's an easy thing to do. So true...
Remora.Ninian said: Oh ***, I can't read. FFFFUUUUUUU.... Okay fine BLM hat is nice, rest isn't. Pants are gross. So poofy :( At least the ASA pants aren't like that.
 Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-25 15:00:53
Ramuh.Dasva said: Also Chr does affect hate very well.
Just go to some other sites forums post in the pld section about chr affecting hate and watching the emnity increase exponentially
lol, awesome
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 15:00:55
ASA pants are hot, I'm really sad those were mage-pants and not soft-core melee pants.... ; ;
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-03-25 15:42:25
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Shiva.Darkmacabre said: Not too many know but I did read that Chr affects hate somewhere. Why lots of Pld gear comes with it, and Nin AF head. It's been two years since that was disproven people, get with the times.
Well ***, I said I read it somewhere. Not sure where and I never ranted it was true. Grow the *** up.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-03-25 15:43:59
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Fairy.Usua
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-03-25 15:54:24
Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day?
Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself.
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 Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu
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By Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu 2010-03-25 16:34:11
obviously the chr is because SE wants more pld/bst!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 16:48:30
Shiva.Darkmacabre said: Well ***, I said I read it somewhere. Not sure where and I never ranted it was true. Grow the *** up. Bawww. Read before posting next time.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 00:19:25
Fairy.Usua said: Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day?
Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself.
What is this, retard day?
Most people who have access to a forum should know better by now. Get over your own stupidity.
Oh and let the lulz ensue. This needs bumped more.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-03-26 10:51:12
Sylph.Vincentius said: Fairy.Usua said: Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day?
Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself.
What is this, retard day?
Most people who have access to a forum should know better by now. Get over your own stupidity.
Oh and let the lulz ensue. This needs bumped more. lol ignorant elitism is lulzy
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-26 10:59:47
Sylph.Vincentius said: Fairy.Usua said: Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day? Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself. What is this, retard day? Most people who have access to a forum should know better by now. Get over your own stupidity. Oh and let the lulz ensue. This needs bumped more.
What is this, poopin' cat day?
Most people who have a cat should have a litter box by now. Get over your own stupidity.
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By Cerberus.Darkanaseur 2010-03-26 10:59:48
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Ninian was just thinking about Mithra Warlock's Tights. It's an easy thing to do.
That's what I picture when I think of the AF ;x
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2010-03-26 10:59:50
CHR doesnt effect hate in anyway, there's probably been 100's of tests and SE even said in a interview CHR has no effect on hate.
 Pandemonium.Eldevine
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By Pandemonium.Eldevine 2010-03-26 12:37:42
"Also Chr does affect hate very well."
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God how i LOLd xD
Dasva the mighty lvl 6 pld speaks! O.O IT MUST BE THE TRUTH!
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-26 12:38:54
Pandemonium.Eldevine said: "Also Chr does affect hate very well."
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God how i LOLd xD
Dasva the mighty lvl 6 pld speaks! O.O IT MUST BE THE TRUTH!
read the rest of the post so you can realize he's not being serious
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 12:50:53
Fairy.Usua said: Sylph.Vincentius said: Fairy.Usua said: Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day?
Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself.
What is this, retard day?
Most people who have access to a forum should know better by now. Get over your own stupidity.
Oh and let the lulz ensue. This needs bumped more. lol ignorant elitism is lulzy
lol ignorant idiot is lulzy
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By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-03-26 12:57:03
CHR EFFECTS HATE LVLS..... mobs hate it when im so damn sexy.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-03-26 12:58:44
Sylph.Vincentius said: Fairy.Usua said: Sylph.Vincentius said: Fairy.Usua said: Siren.Enternius said: What is this, 2004? what is this, elitism day?
Some people don't know every aspect of the game, get over yourself.
What is this, retard day?
Most people who have access to a forum should know better by now. Get over your own stupidity.
Oh and let the lulz ensue. This needs bumped more. lol ignorant elitism is lulzy
lol ignorant idiot is lulzy Far be it for some one to ask a question during the learning process. That's like a teacher calling the students HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE for not knowing something they could have looked up anytime in the past few hundred years. Again, get over your dumb *** self.
I've noticed some drk gear has chr on it, does it have any thing to do with hate control?
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