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 Caitsith.Zefiris
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-03-22 21:32:49  
Dasva, I was taught not to take a penny from the government, and my children/grandchildren will hear it until the day I die! (from lack of health insurance of course!)
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By Asura.Exodina 2010-03-22 21:37:49  
Oh, Dasva.. You gave the opinion that anyone who doesn't have insurance and is all for the bill is a "moocher and/or bleeding heart." So, in that way, yes, I am. I'd be considered a bleeding heart more than anything.

And, apparently, because I'm for the bill you think I'm all for asking everyone to pay for my health care cost? Give me a break. If you've had these things done while uninsured, then why are you arguing with me about my post about my opinion and, possibly, even educating those who don't know how much things can cost without insurance?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-03-22 21:45:10  
Totally off the subject


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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-22 21:45:18  
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Dasva, I was taught not to take a penny from the government, and my children/grandchildren will hear it until the day I die! (from lack of health insurance of course!)
I wouldn't go that far. I mean you do (I assume you pay taxes social security etc) pay alot into it. A country is supposed to work for the poeple as much as the people work for it.

Now do I think alot of government spending is extraneous and should be things you pay for for yourself and we should do that and lower taxes? Yes.

Hell it's a fact government spending is wasteful and there are alot of programs out there that kinda make you wonder wtf. Like for example I found... "Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job"

Of course that is a different though somewhat related topic.
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By Siren.Cordareo 2010-03-22 21:46:31  
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Trickle down economics is not working for me right now, because the rich are being robbed by taxes left and right- so the faucet is barely on at the top.

I got through your wall of text up to this point. Anyone that believes in Trickle down economics is a naieve little boy brainwashed into believing giving money to people who have money will magically make everyone rich. wat

Nobody wants you to pay for our health care. You make it seem like if I got *** cancer I'd come to your house and demand you pay my medical bill.

You sir are an idiot. Please stop posting
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said:
My .02 cents, which I will now donate to someone else's healthcare, because i'm made to do so.

I'd normally say kill yourself like I do to everyone, but since you have a son coming into this world, wait 18 years then promptly do so.

Asura.Emoneaone said:
It is a sad day when, ostensibly to provide health care to the uninsured, staggering debt will accrue and still leave approximately 17 million uninsured. That is the Democrat's own estimate.

Better to have had actual debate, no back room deals, and deal with solely those who can't afford insurance. Would have been cheaper.

Welcome to the People's Democratic Republic of the United States.

How about making insurance companies illegal? It's a corporation who's sole mission is to make money... Profit first!

If you make insurance illegal and people no longer pay for auto insurance, health insurance, house insurance etc. and instead we are taxed a lower amount (at cost obviously because the government isn't there to make a profit) then we would end up saving way more money and be able to actually spend money on what matters i.e. our house bill and car payment.

But Cordareo, what about all of those lost jobs at insurance companies!?!?!1201/!/!

Herp, derp... let's give them jobs investing into green energy, renewable resources, reducing pollution, eliminating crime etc. How about we put them through school to do something else?

But no... Republicans are all about profit worship and everyone pays their "fair" share. They believe that everyone can magically be rich and that the way to do it is give tax breaks to people who obviously can buy an entire house in one paycheck...

Ragnarok.Harpunnik said:
Yes I understand how much medical bills cost. My dog just had an FHO and physical therapy. And thats not even a human! I did not have doggie healthcare. Maybe someone needs to pay part of my dog's surgery. I mean animals have rights to, and had I not had the money she would have had to be left in the street to die. Isn't this America?

God you are so *** stupid... An Animal is an animal and not a human. Why would you say that someone needs to pay for your dogs surgery as an example of how our health care should work?

You have horrible logic and I am beginning to think that Republicans and conservatives are just *** stupid *** who lap up anything Glenn beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc. feeds their tiny brains.


Dasva, Kill yourself.

Exodina, Keep up the good fight.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-22 21:48:03  
Siren.Cordareo said:
Dasva, Kill yourself.
I'd tell you to kill yourself too but you'd probably expect me to clean up after you and pay for it
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By Seraph.Bigheadkitty 2010-03-22 21:48:19  
Things I have noticed from any thread not dealing with FFXI:

#1-OMFG now they are takeing my taxes for somethign I dont like(Unless you make a rather nice income 125k+/yr, your tax dollar does little more than pay for schooling for yuor children, a military to defend you, police, fire and ambulance services. The guy makeing 250k is the guy that has the right to be pissed because he is getting hosed.)

#2-Get rid of the IRS (Are yuo *** kidding me? The IRS is one of the few jobs that strictly employees American Citizens. Now if you want to pay them all welfare and unemployment we cna abolish it, if not keep the crappy system so they have jobs and dont potentially take yours)

#3-Democrats suck/republicans suck (I have news for you, most people in general suck so obviously most politicians are going to suck. There is just way to much money involved to make anyone truely unbiased)

#4 the majority of people do or do not want this (That was fine when ther were 100k peole decideing something and we were all farmers. Now with the sheer number of citizens and the fact that such a large number are of very low intellegence or are highly misled becuase they only get there news from one place, choices arent so simple as a majority. If 100,000,001 say kill all people over the age of 60 and 100,000,000 say dont what do you do?)

Just random ***I have noticed. LOL flame me for the info but not the spelling please;)
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-22 21:49:05  
Garuda.Glaciont said:
Lol Lumra... does the Green Party of Canada even count? During the talks about how the opposition wanted to form a coalition government.. never once did I hear of the Green Party lol.


I knew about this Coalition where the Bloc, Liberal and NDP were going to form to gang up on the Conservatives, but didn't the NDP, say that since they were the low man on the system, wouldn't they have just said the the Green party, that they would just Absorb the Party within the NDP?

The Green Party, Actually, funny as it sounds, I think somewhere in Peter McKay's Riding, In PEI or Nova Scotia ( not entirely sure) Beath him out in his OWN riding??

0.0 Green vs Conservatives.. ( again If I'm correct, I'm too lazy to cite sources atm) then Green Kicked ***!
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By Asura.Exodina 2010-03-22 21:49:38  
And I rest my case.

Rafik, welcome to the Army of Exodina. Poker night is Tuesdays, keg night is Fridays and Saturdays and, yes, we have cookies. Hell, I'll even pay for it since I'm just a BIG FAN of moochers/bleeding hearts. *Snickers*
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-03-22 21:50:04  
Well whenever the government makes a spending program, it will never take it away for fear of angering voters. And whenever there is a big bunch of cash lying around (social security), they spend it and now we have none. :D

And yeah they take a sh*tload away, but really I don't expect to see any of it again. :)
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-03-22 21:50:25  
Pork Barrel Spending actually has increased, even though we dont have the money for it.....
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By Leviathan.Scid 2010-03-22 21:52:09  
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-22 21:56:01  
Leviathan.Scid said:
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)
While I disagree with the first part it's only because I agree with the 2nd part.

Nationalism has it's downs but it is certainly better than having a general popultion not actually liking there country (or at least better than others). Also people kinda need to idenitify themselves in a group to more or less gang up on other groups if only in there head. Great movitation to trying to improve ones country.
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By Seraph.Zoey 2010-03-22 21:57:42  
Anyone that argues against social services must enjoy thier hatred for homeless people and anyone unfortunate or plain broke. Hell they probably hate broke people that are 65+ collected medicaid, which is most of the folks that age. I can't understand the wierd anti US rants. Bills I don't like get passed all the time so I voice with my vote. So what if people vote to take care of old people and babies, now this bill extends to allow some poor guys and girls some treatment for that thing they worry about or whatever ailments pending. Cry me a river greedy ***. I share mine you can share yours too.


We could all just qoute each other than just type an insulting smear than type lol and try to pass as intellectuals?

If money puts you on such a high horse than you are truly lost.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-22 21:57:55  
Leviathan.Scid said:
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)

I approve of this...=D
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2010-03-22 21:58:48  
Siren.Cordareo said:
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said:
Trickle down economics is not working for me right now, because the rich are being robbed by taxes left and right- so the faucet is barely on at the top.
I got through your wall of text up to this point. Anyone that believes in Trickle down economics is a naieve little boy brainwashed into believing giving money to people who have money will magically make everyone rich. wat Nobody wants you to pay for our health care. You make it seem like if I got *** cancer I'd come to your house and demand you pay my medical bill. You sir are an idiot. Please stop posting
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said:
My .02 cents, which I will now donate to someone else's healthcare, because i'm made to do so.
I'd normally say kill yourself like I do to everyone, but since you have a son coming into this world, wait 18 years then promptly do so.
Asura.Emoneaone said:
It is a sad day when, ostensibly to provide health care to the uninsured, staggering debt will accrue and still leave approximately 17 million uninsured. That is the Democrat's own estimate. Better to have had actual debate, no back room deals, and deal with solely those who can't afford insurance. Would have been cheaper. Welcome to the People's Democratic Republic of the United States.
How about making insurance companies illegal? It's a corporation who's sole mission is to make money... Profit first! If you make insurance illegal and people no longer pay for auto insurance, health insurance, house insurance etc. and instead we are taxed a lower amount (at cost obviously because the government isn't there to make a profit) then we would end up saving way more money and be able to actually spend money on what matters i.e. our house bill and car payment. But Cordareo, what about all of those lost jobs at insurance companies!?!?!1201/!/! Herp, derp... let's give them jobs investing into green energy, renewable resources, reducing pollution, eliminating crime etc. How about we put them through school to do something else? But no... Republicans are all about profit worship and everyone pays their "fair" share. They believe that everyone can magically be rich and that the way to do it is give tax breaks to people who obviously can buy an entire house in one paycheck...
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said:
Yes I understand how much medical bills cost. My dog just had an FHO and physical therapy. And thats not even a human! I did not have doggie healthcare. Maybe someone needs to pay part of my dog's surgery. I mean animals have rights to, and had I not had the money she would have had to be left in the street to die. Isn't this America?
God you are so *** stupid... An Animal is an animal and not a human. Why would you say that someone needs to pay for your dogs surgery as an example of how our health care should work? You have horrible logic and I am beginning to think that Republicans and conservatives are just *** stupid *** who lap up anything Glenn beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc. feeds their tiny brains. Dasva, Kill yourself. Exodina, Keep up the good fight.


Do you even know what trickle down economics is? You don't give people money.You stop taxing the living bejesuses out of them because they make more. Money is spent on goods, services, etc and doesnt sit in offshore bank accounts. A guy with a huge house and lots of money is going to employ more people than a high school student making 8 bucks an hour.

Yes, I am paying for people's healthcare because my taxes will be going up... I'm not sure where the *** cancer comes from but maybe it's from reading your posts...actually thats probably brain damage.

And yes...insurance companies AND hospitals are businesses. They are all scams. If you think government ones aren't...

And im not serious about the animal rights, more mocking those view points. But you know, had I not had the money I would have been in worse than the proverbial doghouse, could of financial ruined me.

I'm trying to have a civil debate here, and you sir are sitting in your mom's basement telling me to go kill myself, grow up and contribuet to society. And before you waste key strokes on the irony of this know its a joke. Cept the basement part...you should seriously move out cuz u'll get *** cancer.
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By Bahamut.Paulus 2010-03-22 21:59:22  
Leviathan.Scid said:
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)

From speaking to my 5 or 6 Canadian friends, I've come to realize that your government has some "Serious" consumer protection practices in place. One of my friends couldn't get a credit card for several months.

Here they are given out with little or no income verification.

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By Seraph.Bigheadkitty 2010-03-22 22:01:09  
***forgot somehting in my previuos post:

#5 Vladimir putin is the antiiiiichriiiiistttttttttttttttt
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-03-22 22:04:36  
I think helping people and throwing money at them are different things. :3
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By Garuda.Glaciont 2010-03-22 22:04:44  
Just finished watching SiCKO, think I got a grasp on the US healthcare system again.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-22 22:05:32  
Bahamut.Paulus said:
Leviathan.Scid said:
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)

From speaking to my 5 or 6 Canadian friends, I've come to realize that your government has some "Serious" consumer protection practices in place. One of my friends couldn't get a credit card for several months.

Here they are given out with little or no income verification.

... yea but that is in store for a good reason, I take it Canada is watching our debt consumption, so that, us the consumer doesn't elevate our country into a more serious matter. Were trying to fix out debt, not add to it.
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By Asura.Kiowa 2010-03-22 22:06:29  
politics on a game thread lmao
are you lonely
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2010-03-22 22:07:57  
No darn update taking forever.
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2010-03-22 22:08:59  
"Just finished watching SiCKO, think I got a grasp on the US healthcare system again."

Just got done watching strange brew, got my grasp on Canada...

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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-03-22 22:08:59  
Asura.Kiowa said:
politics on a game thread lmao
are you lonely

Yes, wanna be my friend? :D
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By Asura.Exodina 2010-03-22 22:11:01  
Maybe? D= Zefiris, can I have a hug?
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By Gilgamesh.Lumra 2010-03-22 22:12:03  
Bahamut.Paulus said:
Leviathan.Scid said:
This thread reminds me why Canada is the greatest country in the world! (Gogo nationalism.)

From speaking to my 5 or 6 Canadian friends, I've come to realize that your government has some "Serious" consumer protection practices in place. One of my friends couldn't get a credit card for several months.

Here they are given out with little or no income verification.

> Couldn't get a credit card for several months
> My bank handed mine to me on a silver platter

Not all Americans are the same = Not all Canadians are the same.

Thank Flying Spaghetti Monster the update is almost over.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-03-22 22:12:20  
Do you have hug insurance?
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By Asura.Kiowa 2010-03-22 22:12:38  
lol
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By Asura.Exodina 2010-03-22 22:13:03  
Maybe. <_<
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