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Religion: If you don't believe in it why does it bother you?
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:04:23
Hades.Kvazz said: Some things are just too much to tackle alone sometimes ><, Whether you look to moral support from a friend or from your 'deity', it all helps I think^^;... or atleast it helped me haha
it may look wonderful to you when you see someone turn to god in a time of need, but the problem there is no god answering... they can always convince themself into believing, but the answer is still made up by someone
guess what fills the gap when someone belongs to a religion? men with their own corruption and agendas and weaknesses
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:04:43
Hades.Kvazz said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: Hades.Kvazz said: Basicly, the human race is weak. Other animals dont need to belive in a higher power to get through problems in their lives.
What makes so many of us humans need to belive in this higher power? Allways wanted to know the answer to that question..
Stupid if you ask me >_>
People who dont belive in god get through the same problems just as well, to me these people seem stronger, but that's just the way I see it.
We are stronger than other animals... cause we eat them
Animals eat us too.
True but who eats more the most? True sharks and bear related deaths happen and they eat us... but statistically we eat them a LOT more lol.
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By Caitsith.Blurr 2010-03-20 00:07:09
im eating shark right now . put that in your statistic pipe and smoke it
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By Leviathan.Terriel 2010-03-20 00:07:16
Siren.Clinpachi said: I DO however agree that people without religion make it past problems coming out stronger and this is why:
1) They feel as if they made it through themselves and earned the right to say "it's over i made it".
2) People with religon come to expect or thank the god in question for solving the problem for them aka "God helped me through it i knew i would be ok".
That could probably spark a huge argument but in the human theory coming to "expect" vs "i made it through" WILL favor the person who feels they made it past the life trial themselves.
That argument is akin to those (like myself) who choose to overcome physical and mental health issues by dealing with the source rather than popping a pill. By solving the core problem on my own without a safety net, the credit goes to me and only me. It's more empowering, honestly, and more rewarding.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-03-20 00:07:51
Ragnarok.Psyence said: Because it affects my life. That's the reason it bothers me. I wish for the demise of several organizations that I feel are destructive to me, my family, my friends and human evolution in general. Almost all countries in the world are ruled by religious people who, more than often, base their decisions on outdated beliefs rather than secular moral standards such as basic human rights, global awareness, tolerance towards difference and a genuine pursuit of peace.
That, my friend, is anything but reassuring.
Rationalists, those who chose, out of simple logic, not to believe in something supernatural, need to state their opinion, proudly and coherently. They need to have a place in society and politics, to be heard and to at least have a word on what the future's going to look like. Something as serious as the occupation of Iraq (close to 100000 have died in it) could probably have been avoided. If it wasn't for the fact that so many US voters based their vote on Bush's claim to have religious beliefs rather than nonviolent ideologies, less people would be dead today.
Beliefs keep us from evolving because of what they are: Suppositions that were turned into artificial facts by irrational, although well intentioned people. The scientific approach goes in contradiction with the religious approach. I will show you that I have a baseball to prove that I own one. Instead, a religious person will dare you to prove that he doesn't have a baseball and your failing to demonstrate that he doesn't own one will make him feel justified.
Doubt, the very basis of knowledge: Doubt is the only way to keep our mind from falling into what I like to describe as "lazy mode". Doubt requires constant re-questioning of our assumptions and becomes harder as we grow old. We have to constantly remind ourselves that what we think we know... might be wrong.
Religions fundamentally discourage questioning; even when they pretend to do, they do it in a hypocritical way that discourages questioning even the relevance of believing. Oppositely, Science has, over the centuries, been re-evaluated from scratch, in the noble attempt to find some provable truths. Small truths, yes, but significant ones. The first scientists obviously believed in God; now, most don't.
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-03-20 00:07:52
Hades.Kvazz said: Personally I've had no problems handling tough stuff all by myself, a friend of mine killed himself because "god didnt asnwer him" when he had a bad time.
It's all very personal I guess >_>
Oh gosh, I'd never go as far as to kill myself because god didn't answer me lol. >_< and I'm so very sorry that your friend did that;~;. I'll be the first person to admit I'm weak haha, there's only so much beating a midget like myself can take lol^^ But heck, support for me comes in many forms and I know for sure that even if I pray until I've no breath left that things won't 'magically' change. But it's the courage that I get from both prayer and from friends that kinda sets me on the right frame of mind again ^-^.
That being said, I envy and respect those who don't want or don't need to pray or look to God or a Deity for help, I really wish I could be that strong ^^
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By Remora.Dubont 2010-03-20 00:08:05
Ragnarok.Psyence said: Hades.Kvazz said: Some things are just too much to tackle alone sometimes ><, Whether you look to moral support from a friend or from your 'deity', it all helps I think^^;... or atleast it helped me haha
it may look wonderful to you when you see someone turn to god in a time of need, but the problem there is no god answering... they can always convince themself into believing, but the answer is still made up by someone
guess what fills the gap when someone belongs to a religion? men with their own corruption and agendas and weaknesses
For you to sit and say "there is no god answering" is just like someone saying "god answered me." Its a belief. They believe he does, you believe he doesn't. Are they wrong, possibly. Are you wrong, possibly. There is no 100% proof either way.
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By Hades.Kvazz 2010-03-20 00:08:06
Siren.Clinpachi said: Hades.Kvazz said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: Hades.Kvazz said: Basicly, the human race is weak. Other animals dont need to belive in a higher power to get through problems in their lives.
What makes so many of us humans need to belive in this higher power? Allways wanted to know the answer to that question..
Stupid if you ask me >_>
People who dont belive in god get through the same problems just as well, to me these people seem stronger, but that's just the way I see it.
We are stronger than other animals... cause we eat them
Animals eat us too.
True but who eats more the most? True sharks and bear related deaths happen and they eat us... but statistically we eat them a LOT more lol. That's true, but still >_> Sure, humans are smarter than animals (as far as we know?), but why should this make us belive in a god? Why do we need a higher power when we'r allready "better" than all the other animals? Why do some people need to belive in this higher power to function, and some dont?
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By Gilgamesh.Aerokii 2010-03-20 00:08:31
Ragnarok.Psyence said: Hades.Kvazz said: Some things are just too much to tackle alone sometimes ><, Whether you look to moral support from a friend or from your 'deity', it all helps I think^^;... or atleast it helped me haha
it may look wonderful to you when you see someone turn to god in a time of need, but the problem there is no god answering... they can always convince themself into believing, but the answer is still made up by someone
guess what fills the gap when someone belongs to a religion? men with their own corruption and agendas and weaknesses
You BELIEVE there is no God answering, or at least not in a way one can comprehend. I'm not saying there is a God answering, but... when you're going after religion because there's no proof of it, when you've got no proof to the contrary, it seems a little silly.
also, in before Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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By Asura.Karianna 2010-03-20 00:08:31
Ragnarok.Psyence said: it may look wonderful to you when you see someone turn to god in a time of need, but the problem there is no god answering... they can always convince themself into believing, but the answer is still made up by someone
guess what fills the gap when someone belongs to a religion? men with their own corruption and agendas and weaknesses What, sir, is your problem with people having hope? If my aunt is dying from cancer, why is it wrong to pray to God for her to get better? Sometimes there is nowhere else to turn. Humans can only do so much, no matter how much everyone is trying to be their own personal god.
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By Caitsith.Blurr 2010-03-20 00:09:25
Leviathan.Terriel said: Siren.Clinpachi said: I DO however agree that people without religion make it past problems coming out stronger and this is why:
1) They feel as if they made it through themselves and earned the right to say "it's over i made it".
2) People with religon come to expect or thank the god in question for solving the problem for them aka "God helped me through it i knew i would be ok".
That could probably spark a huge argument but in the human theory coming to "expect" vs "i made it through" WILL favor the person who feels they made it past the life trial themselves.
That argument is akin to those (like myself) who choose to overcome physical and mental health issues by dealing with the source rather than popping a pill. By solving the core problem on my own without a safety net, the credit goes to me and only me. It's more empowering, honestly, and more rewarding.
next time you break your leg, just overcome the source of pain mentally. *** the vicodins and safety nets, youll feel like a better person in the end for it
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:09:48
Caitsith.Blurr said: im eating shark right now . put that in your statistic pipe and smoke it
Actually i think it's illegal in some areas to eat things like shark or dolphin.. but i'm not sure.
In either case the food chain could also go by who kills who the most. And i'm pretty sure that even if we don't at least EAT more shark than shark eat human.... surely we KILL more sharks in a year than sharks kill humans.
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:12:34
Remora.Dubont said: Ragnarok.Psyence said:
faith = making a virtue out of not thinking
religion = using believers to do your bidding
guess what the result always is : lots of well intentioned people ending up doing *** up ***in the name of God
religion is dangerous, it's proven to be
believing is not dangerous, but when believers regroup and have leaders, then I have to oppose
we have to keep pretending that it's not destructive
Ok so this is actually turning into something more than just u ranting about religion. It comes down to this: Yes it may be destructive but it is what people have lived with all of their lives. For example, the Christian religion is very young, but it is older than you are. YOU AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE IT. Please stop trying. Until the world sees their religion do something entirely destructive, it will always be here. Take Mormons for instance....1 man..many wives...sex with children...no caffeine...fire doesn't exist really? but it is still here so stop crying and just live with it. Debate at a debate but don't ever EVER straight up bash a religion until you are legitimately provoked sir.
If you met a man who's 50 years old and still believed in Santa Claus because... well people assumed he would figure out by himself and finally forgot to tell him... would you tell him? I know I would. We each have our own ways of dealing with ignorance. If ignorance is comforting for others, it isn't for me. If your friends know your girlfriend was sleeping with everyone and they let you marry her, and spend 40 years and never told you, because they didn't want you to be sad. I think not all religious people wish to stay ignorant. And well, the only way to help is ... talking about it lol
It's not like its a moral obligation, but it feels pretty rewarding when you get someone to develop critical thinking, and later that person helps you understand other points you had wrong. It's called evolution. it didn't happen with just one man. it's was a collective thing, still is
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:14:56
Ragnarok.Psyence said: Remora.Dubont said: Ragnarok.Psyence said:
faith = making a virtue out of not thinking
religion = using believers to do your bidding
guess what the result always is : lots of well intentioned people ending up doing *** up ***in the name of God
religion is dangerous, it's proven to be
believing is not dangerous, but when believers regroup and have leaders, then I have to oppose
we have to keep pretending that it's not destructive
Ok so this is actually turning into something more than just u ranting about religion. It comes down to this: Yes it may be destructive but it is what people have lived with all of their lives. For example, the Christian religion is very young, but it is older than you are. YOU AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE IT. Please stop trying. Until the world sees their religion do something entirely destructive, it will always be here. Take Mormons for instance....1 man..many wives...sex with children...no caffeine...fire doesn't exist really? but it is still here so stop crying and just live with it. Debate at a debate but don't ever EVER straight up bash a religion until you are legitimately provoked sir.
If you met a man who's 50 years old and still believed in Santa Claus because... well people assumed he would figure out by himself and finally forgot to tell him... would you tell him? I know I would. We each have our own ways of dealing with ignorance. If ignorance is comforting for others, it isn't for me. If your friends know your girlfriend was sleeping with everyone and they let you marry her, and spend 40 years and never told you, because they didn't want you to be sad. I think not all religious people wish to stay ignorant. And well, the only way to help is ... talking about it lol
It's not like its a moral obligation, but it feels pretty rewarding when you get someone to develop critical thinking, and later that person helps you understand other points you had wrong. It's called evolution. it didn't happen with just one man. it's was a collective thing, still is
Those are really great points and understanding... but that's a completely different thing.
Apple vs Orange.
There is no right or wrong in a persons religion choice. I'm not even sure how you can compare knowing someone is cheating and not telling.
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By Remora.Dubont 2010-03-20 00:17:42
You can't compare someone knowing ur g/f is cheating on you to the idea of a God. Here's why:
Ur friend KNOWS and has SEEN ur g/f cheat on u.
You DONT KNOW there isn't a god. You HAVEN'T seen any proof.
That is where those 2 ideas differ. I see what you are saying though.
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-03-20 00:18:10
These threads eventually just end up in everyone circle-jerking each other.
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:18:38
Asura.Karianna said: Ragnarok.Psyence said: it may look wonderful to you when you see someone turn to god in a time of need, but the problem there is no god answering... they can always convince themself into believing, but the answer is still made up by someone
guess what fills the gap when someone belongs to a religion? men with their own corruption and agendas and weaknesses What, sir, is your problem with people having hope? If my aunt is dying from cancer, why is it wrong to pray to God for her to get better? Sometimes there is nowhere else to turn. Humans can only do so much, no matter how much everyone is trying to be their own personal god.
I'd like people to have hope in themselves, and the people they love, not in something they're not even sure exists. It is very hard to stay rational in a moment of need, we try to cling to whatever hope we can find, yes. Religions know it, as a matter of fact, and trust me, they use it to their advantage when recruiting. I guess we could say that not having faith is a luxury, because when you're in deep ***, it's harder to stay rational...
Does the fear of big questions justify believing? I have to say no.
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:19:30
Phoenix.Smileybone said: These threads eventually just end up in everyone circle-jerking each other.
I was expecting worse. I think it's doing good so far.
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By Hades.Kvazz 2010-03-20 00:21:00
There is no right or wrong when it comes to belief, it's just a belief.
Some people are stronger than others, some people dont need this whole "there is someone watching over me" thing, but some people do.
Do whatever makes you function, but dont push it on someone else
The biggest question for me still is, why is it like this?
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:22:55
Remora.Dubont said: You can't compare someone knowing ur g/f is cheating on you to the idea of a God. Here's why:
Ur friend KNOWS and has SEEN ur g/f cheat on u.
You DONT KNOW there isn't a god. You HAVEN'T seen any proof.
That is where those 2 ideas differ. I see what you are saying though.
Yeah, I gotta admit. What I do know, is that a belief should not be taken for fact because in many case, and especially in the case of religious beliefs, since they come from LONG before science, it's most likely not one. We can't even know if Neil Armstrong was really on the moon, we can only believe and not believe. I don't pity believers because they think there MIGHT be a God. I pity them because they just can't realize what a belief isn't (a fact).
I have a hard time seeing how a believer who understands what a belief is could possibly take himself seriously.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:23:17
I'm surprised myself it's this calm at page 6 lol. Only reason i supported and made some conversation.
I personally can't stand talking about politics or religion at all what so ever... so i am surprised i even talked with you guys about it XD
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By Leviathan.Terriel 2010-03-20 00:23:55
Caitsith.Blurr said: Leviathan.Terriel said: Siren.Clinpachi said: I DO however agree that people without religion make it past problems coming out stronger and this is why:
1) They feel as if they made it through themselves and earned the right to say "it's over i made it".
2) People with religon come to expect or thank the god in question for solving the problem for them aka "God helped me through it i knew i would be ok".
That could probably spark a huge argument but in the human theory coming to "expect" vs "i made it through" WILL favor the person who feels they made it past the life trial themselves.
That argument is akin to those (like myself) who choose to overcome physical and mental health issues by dealing with the source rather than popping a pill. By solving the core problem on my own without a safety net, the credit goes to me and only me. It's more empowering, honestly, and more rewarding.
next time you break your leg, just overcome the source of pain mentally. *** the vicodins and safety nets, youll feel like a better person in the end for it
Maybe I will, thanks for the advice.
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By Asura.Karianna 2010-03-20 00:24:31
Ragnarok.Psyence said: I'd like people to have hope in themselves, and the people they love, not in something they're not even sure exists. It is very hard to stay rational in a moment of need, we try to cling to whatever hope we can find, yes. Religions know it, as a matter of fact, and trust me, they use it to their advantage when recruiting. I guess we could say that not having faith is a luxury, because when you're in deep ***, it's harder to stay rational...
Does the fear of big questions justify believing? I have to say no. That's swell, but apply that logic to the given situation of my aunt dying of cancer. Hope in myself? Hope in her? To do what, exactly? I can't do anything, and you would rather leave someone in this situation hopeless than consider the fact that there MIGHT be a God, and He MIGHT help, even if they aren't sure. Basically, if you're right, and there is no God, praying is, indeed, useless. If I'm right, and there is a God, He might just save my aunt's life. Since neither can be proved, I must say, the latter seems wiser.
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By Remora.Dubont 2010-03-20 00:24:37
Hades.Kvazz said: There is no right or wrong when it comes to belief, it's just a belief.
Some people are stronger than others, some people dont need this whole "there is someone watching over me" thing, but some people do.
Do whatever makes you function, but dont push it on someone else
The biggest question for me still is, why is it like this?
Religion was initially put into place as a form of rule. The church was court and court was church. The Bible was used as the code of law. Over time, these two have seemingly spread apart but they are still combined and still used. It is like this b/c of our ancestors and how they ruled their people.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:26:00
Ragnarok.Psyence said: Remora.Dubont said: You can't compare someone knowing ur g/f is cheating on you to the idea of a God. Here's why:
Ur friend KNOWS and has SEEN ur g/f cheat on u.
You DONT KNOW there isn't a god. You HAVEN'T seen any proof.
That is where those 2 ideas differ. I see what you are saying though.
Yeah, I gotta admit. What I do know, is that a belief should not be taken for fact because it's most likely not one. We can't even know if Neil Armstrong was really on the moon, we can only believe and not believe. I don't pity believers because they think there MIGHT be a God. I pity them because they just can't realize what a belief isn't (a fact).
I have a hard time seeing how a believer who understands what a belief is could possibly take himself seriously.
See and the thing you have to understand is thinking that way is fine, but something best left to yourself, close friends, or family that think the same way.
Nothing good will ever come of saying that directly to people. Same goes with my argument... i believe there is no specific god or higher power... science in my opinion has fully brought us all this way.
But you can't say what i quoted and expect everyone to agree or accept it.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-20 00:27:46
Also i would like to mention that religion is the main cause of most wars, conflicts, terrorism, feuds, and did i mention wars? lol.
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By Asura.Karianna 2010-03-20 00:28:53
Siren.Clinpachi said: Also i would like to mention that religion is the main cause of most wars, conflicts, terrorism, feuds, and did i mention wars? lol. ...Let me repeat what I said earlier. We’ve already had our great experiment of eradicating religion. It was called the twentieth century, the most secular century in the history of mankind. What happened? Let’s see… Marxism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, two World Wars, the Holocaust and other genocides, the atomic bomb, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Cold War, and the bloodiest century in human history… all in the name of secularism and scientific “progress”.
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-03-20 00:30:06
Asura.Karianna said: Ragnarok.Psyence said: I'd like people to have hope in themselves, and the people they love, not in something they're not even sure exists. It is very hard to stay rational in a moment of need, we try to cling to whatever hope we can find, yes. Religions know it, as a matter of fact, and trust me, they use it to their advantage when recruiting. I guess we could say that not having faith is a luxury, because when you're in deep ***, it's harder to stay rational...
Does the fear of big questions justify believing? I have to say no. That's swell, but apply that logic to the given situation of my aunt dying of cancer. Hope in myself? Hope in her? To do what, exactly? I can't do anything, and you would rather leave someone in this situation hopeless than consider the fact that there MIGHT be a God, and He MIGHT help, even if they aren't sure. Basically, if you're right, and there is no God, praying is, indeed, useless. If I'm right, and there is a God, He might just save my aunt's life. Since neither can be proved, I must say, the latter seems wiser.
A non-believer may have a hard time staying rational, I know that. Here's what I would TRY to do, and I can be weak like any other human... I would try to see every moment spent with my grand mother as precious, I would cherish every minute, tell her how important she is to me, how glad I am to have been alive at the same time as her. And if she asked me "will I see you in heaven" I'd reply "Who knows, right?" This is what not believing means to me. It's not about giving up hope, it's about not making facts up, staying critical of unprovable theories. Sometimes, I see people in need and I'll tell them that I prayed for them, because they're very old and I know it'll make them smile. I have my limits too, but you're young and you can still live a life free of stories and myths binding your thinking.
See the irony? Jesus was made weak and tempted into abandoning God. To me, the temptation of believing is a danger to my sanity. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of religious cults are actively recruiting people like me who are in a time of need, and I will not fall for these intellectual slaveholders. I just can't afford to waste my short life playing the religion loto, hoping to be in the right one on judgment day, in other words win and be saved.
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By Hades.Kvazz 2010-03-20 00:30:41
Remora.Dubont said: Hades.Kvazz said: There is no right or wrong when it comes to belief, it's just a belief.
Some people are stronger than others, some people dont need this whole "there is someone watching over me" thing, but some people do.
Do whatever makes you function, but dont push it on someone else
The biggest question for me still is, why is it like this?
Religion was initially put into place as a form of rule. The church was court and court was church. The Bible was used as the code of law. Over time, these two have seemingly spread apart but they are still combined and still used. It is like this b/c of our ancestors and how they ruled their people. Yet some people still put the beliefs aside, but some people keep them.
I'm from a christian country, but before Norway became a christian country, we belived in norse mythology.
BECOME CHRISTIANS OR DIE.
Kinda just shows how weak people are, they got a new religion, and after awhile they just put the old one aside because they had a new one.
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By Caitsith.Silvaria 2010-03-20 00:31:10
Asura.Karianna said: Asura.Israfel said: Please tell me how a Man being in love with another Man or a Woman being in love with another Woman is detrimental to society? Are they opressing people? Killing in the name of their love? Nope? Then why should I be against it?
The main focus on the Bible is / should Be Peace, Love and acceptance. You ask me if I'm a Christian? Hell yes I am. ...I'm not going to take either side here, don't get all pissy on me, but I fail to see how being against homosexuality goes against peace, love, and acceptance. Hate the sin, not the sinner, right?
Hmm...this is where religion often contradicts itself. It's impossible to be "against homosexuality" without judging the homosexual...and yet, judging others is not your job, it is the Christian god's job, and Jesus makes that quite clear.
The Old Testament does preach against homosexuality, but...Jesus preached love and acceptance, not judgment, and it is my understanding that the horrific laws dictated in the OT, such as stoning a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night, were in a sense nullified because accepting Jesus into one's heart negates the need for those laws. Which is good, since some of those laws were pretty unpleasant. 8(
In any case, Jesus said nothing about homosexuality, but was very clear about non-judgment. Therefore, it seems to me that the best way to make sure you're following Jesus' teachings about acceptance and love would be to not be "against" homosexuality, but accept it as part of God's Divine Plan. 8)
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Because it affects my life. That's the reason it bothers me. I wish for the demise of several organizations that I feel are destructive to me, my family, my friends and human evolution in general. Almost all countries in the world are ruled by religious people who, more than often, base their decisions on outdated beliefs rather than secular moral standards such as basic human rights, global awareness, tolerance towards difference and a genuine pursuit of peace.
That, my friend, is anything but reassuring.
Rationalists, those who chose, out of simple logic, not to believe in something supernatural, need to state their opinion, proudly and coherently. They need to have a place in society and politics, to be heard and to at least have a word on what the future's going to look like. Something as serious as the occupation of Iraq (close to 100000 have died in it) could probably have been avoided. If it wasn't for the fact that so many US voters based their vote on Bush's claim to have strong religious beliefs, rather than nonviolent ideologies, less people would be dead today.
Beliefs keep us from evolving because of what they are: Suppositions that were turned into artificial facts by irrational, although well intentioned people. The scientific approach goes in contradiction with the religious approach. I will show you that I have a baseball to prove that I own one. Instead, a religious person will dare you to prove that he doesn't have a baseball and your failing to demonstrate that he doesn't own one will make him feel justified.
Doubt, the very basis of knowledge: Doubt is the only way to keep our mind from falling into what I like to describe as "lazy mode". Doubt requires constant re-questioning of our assumptions and becomes harder as we grow old. We have to constantly remind ourselves that what we think we know... might be wrong.
Religions fundamentally discourage questioning; even when they pretend to do, they do it in a hypocritical way that discourages questioning even the relevance of believing. Oppositely, Science has, over the centuries, been re-evaluated from scratch, in the noble attempt to find some provable truths. Small truths, yes, but significant ones. The first scientists obviously believed in God; now, most don't.
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