Outcasts: Society's Fault Or Individual Trait?

Note that I never mentioned when this period of time was. I did drop out from college & leave my job at the start of beginning of my "regression". Currently, I 'attend' college & am employed at a small business, these are inhibitions for the sake of "playing along", given the reality that--once you have been part of it--you can't rid yourself of influence of "society" and its implications. Outside of an obligation to a job and education, I don't care for much.

I don't know, I didn't do much in the way of researching anything prior to becoming a recluse. What I know is informal, I'm making no claims of any real ability, or lack thereof: I am what I am.

Any recollection of "why" I became "one" is subject to hindsight bias. If I must take some sort of guess as to why, it was because I was sick of the lack of any profound value or meaning in society, everything is an act, I wanted something that had some sort of value [to me], and I don't think I've ever found it, all I've done is capitulated, agreed to take up a role I have no attachment to.

Of course society won't give you any form of meaning. That's all on you. While I function within society, I don't agree with a lot of it. One example is that thread that was posted awhile back about the school pulling the dictionary off its shelves because "it contained information about oral sex." Society has taught us that we must protect the children from such impurities. I agree to the point of not exposing them to it unnecessarily, but don't shelter them to the point of smothering. It's ridiculous to think that a 4th grader reads the dictionary and is suddenly wanting to go around having oral sex, or doing drugs, or whatever the hell they read in there. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Hell I think we need to stop all the dumbing down of ***and let nature run it's course. The strongest survive as they say. That means stupid ***like "Caution contents may be hot" on coffee lids or "Do not eat." labels on just about anything that they're on (I saw this on a strand of lights before...). If you're dumb enough to order a hot coffee and not know it's hot, then damnit you don't deserve to spawn.

God you guys are boring.

Sorry KFH, I can't always entertain you :(

I know, thats why I have my sex robot to fill the void.

I'm not sure whether to laugh, or just clear my throat and change the topic. It could go either way with you.

I blame the NHK.

People can not improve? It is in our very genetic make-up to improve, we are born to advance, linguists will show you empirical evidence of how humans learnt to communicate because there was a need for it. One of the many thousands of ways humans have evolved and improved as a society and concious being. Society doesn't exist to fight you, but simply to aid you if you know how to interact with it.

As for your 'problems'. I'm not going to go into some you-analysis, but to be honest, you need to talk to someone and focus on the issues if what/why/where instead of focusing on the actual symptoms of retreating. I can't imagine someone like you having a thick skin, because of the way you have replied to some posts here, it just shows you are quite sensitive and defensive about any perspectives.

Which goes back to my first post, you're only human.

Aye, you don't really choose to become an "outcast" (I'm mostly referring to Hikikomori), it happens over time as the individual becomes more self aware of their surroundings and their state of being.

In my younger years, I was as average as any of you. But around my senior year of high school my thought's became a bit deeper, and I lost the drive I once had to be productive to society. Perhaps the start of my becoming a Hikikomori happened while I was attending a school rally, and seeing everyone else get hyped up and yelling and screaming all crazy-like, made me believe that they were all somewhat brainwashed (except a handful didn't participate), because really a sane person wouldn't do that. Think 1984, folks.

We just don't agree with societies "One of us... one of us..." mentality, we seek our own freedom and happiness. Guess you could call us a modern day philosopher (depending on the individual anyway).

Am I a unique snowflake? Definitely not, as there are others like me, Lol.

Everyone is different. Some people on this thread seem to think everyone should be the same. Never, EVER going to happen, so deal with it. Everyone lives their life their own way...there is no "right" or "wrong" way when it comes to being introverted or extroverted. Some people are introverts because they are shy, because they think people in general are stupid, because they are phobic, and so on...who cares? If everyone were the same, the world would be an INCREDIBLY boring place. You guys don't need to defend yourselves from people on this thread who just want to take a crap all over the way you live. You are what you are...and frankly, I'll take an quiet introvert over a loudmouthed, arrogant know-it-all any day. 8)

Hermits are pretty cool if they hold some sort of lost secret martial-art technique or some forbidden magics.




I always wanted to live in some hidden cave living off of blank white printer paper and pencils. If anyone would dare travel the treacherous path to my hidden fortress, I would be sure to reward them with "how-to-draw funny faces" lessons.

Outcast is not quite the right word for the situation, being an outcast is a very extreme situation, as in your family members are being affected socially due their relation to you. Being unable to function socially is a developmental/personality disorder issue, and not really anyone's fault.

Seriously,

Reading this made me want to shoot myself in the face.

If at any point in time in this thread someone agreed with you, or you agreed with someone else, your/their vagabond nature was just compromised, because you/they are no longer shunned/shunning, for now being/having accepted somewhere/someone else.

Anywayssssss.

Oblivion, props on Hubris, yet you’re not getting off scott free based on your exemplary ability to extravagate the English language.

With out this “society” that you have grown oh so calloused too, you… would not exist. I mean this not in the physical aspect (that goes with out saying, I hope) but in the sanctuary, or realm of perpetual inward self-idolizing idealism, you call life.

(In other words, the environment that you loathe, was in fact, the thing that created what you so adore)

Have fun living a catch 22.

Granted I may not agree with the masses, about 95% of the time, (Take the highest I.Q in a mob, divide by the total number of people in that mob. End result is the mob’s I.Q) “Yeah were ****ed” and most of the time when I speak out I quickly get thumped on the head “Wait for it.”

(I also get snickered at by at least 75% of my sociology class when I voice my opinion, while my teacher shows gratification with her aspirations of one day myself becoming a lawyer or politician)

/twirls finger “O yay”

That does not negate my inherent need to try and liberate the “individual” voice with-in everyone in society, in hopes that one day we do in fact actually find value or meaning to what we call life.

To ostracize someone from this society, or allowing them to extricate themselves, is only depriving them and ourselves from the necessary means find value in life.

(Granted they may like it, or we may like it, or I may like it, or you may like it)
It still isn't right.

“The pursuit of happiness is self fulfillment?”

Sad, I woulda thought the pursuit of happiness was making the others around you happy.

Guess we lost that when we started shunning people.

B.T.W.
A social outcast is ridiculous and fictitious ploy now self allocated to those that feel they don’t “fit the norm.” Typically people are only shunned for doing unexplainable acts of violence.

So if you want to be a hermit, so be it. (But maybe you should call your self an “individual” it’s more riskay and you’ll prolly get some ***** out of it or peen. w/e you’re into) /chuckle “crazy outcasts”

I find if people don’t agree with you, shove some more down their throats, see how they like you then.
(It’s way more fun)

Yeah I’m a weirdo, but I live with it.

I hope I become a persona non grata to this thread.

another person that wants to use complex words to get their point across. Now we know why you *** are so pissed, but one of your own invented a $7000 sex robot. SO *** LIGHTEN UP YOU ANTI-SOCIAL WEIRDOS!

Nimai's post looked a lot like something Filelle would post.

I guess it runs in the family

I heard about this documentary Discovery did about the diminishing social norms and standards, and how within roughly 30 years or so, face-to-face contact and interaction will become the minority method of communication over electronic communication.

in about 10 years, "normal" people will be looked at, just like celebrities

@ Dameshi

the "Caution! contents may be hot" warning you talk of is to protect non-liability.

probably the light bulbs too.... but that's just lolz.

as in, people where intentionally burning themselves with these products to then turn around and sue the the proprietor.

it's actually a grand scheme to "stick it to the man"

too bad "their" intentions are mal-placed.

Also, a man once ordered three D&D coffees, claimed the girl made them wrong, proceeded to remove the cover of one, and toss the contents at her face. Thus physically scarring her for life.

I believe that a jury would find no reason to find the man innocent (going with the no-duh clause) especially if the prosecuting lawyer was intelligent and said "There is empirical (word of the day, I guess) evidence showing that the defense would in fact know the contents of that cup would maliciously alter my clients well being based off of the warning label printed here."

/points to the "Caution! contents are hot" label.

gdi, it posted that last one as the not me Nimai ;;