Favorite Job

I see. ok I'll try.

BLU 11
COR 25(-1)
MNK 19(+1)
PLD 19
RNG 20


Like this?

Again, MNK's only use is Salvage.

And since you want to use merits as a factor, I don't rely on BLM for getting merits. Most BLMs don't.

Thats why there are other jobs, like BRD, or RDM, or SAM, that others level just for merits.

MNK can't solo Salvage (I'm meaning from start to finish, not just for one NM and then leave) so good luck saying otherwise.

As for the best Chariot tank, thats up in the air. A good SAM/NIN can tank just as well, if they are smart about their job and know when to put up shadows and when to Third Eye. SAMs can survive a lot longer, with less cures, than a MNK.

But you will just call me a lier (or some other deragatory name) because you have nothing else to say.

I think I'ma have to up my game.. He's a tough nut to crack...

Don't worry Korgy! One day soon!

Should be Cor 25, but basically yes.

A good sam/nin can tank a chariot just fine, but the only factor that even lets 2handed DDs > dual wield is hasso. Once you drop that, mnk is going to be dealing a ton more damage than sam. So while they can both tank it just fine, the mob will die a lot faster with the mnk tanking than the seigan sam.

Mnk can solo what it needs to solo. Who cares about chariots? They drop like candy and they're easy to do anyways, no dispute of lotting. When I go to solo, it's for drops that I can get uncontested that I'd worry about not seeing again for a long time anyways. Besides, which zones have you full cleared? or even cleared period, solo?

can call you wrong, sam/nin cant cast and counter, sam/nin doesnt have chakra, sam/nin doesnt have penance, sam/nin doesnt have ridiculous hp

you only have 1 of the 4 boss titles too :o

sam/nin isnt awful, no, but mnk is without a doubt better

2 mistakes here i made ranger 21 so It shouldnt be 22 and you didnt bring cor down a point to 25.

Whats the point in trying to kill faster if the MNK gets hit too much, the WHM takes too much hate from overcuring the MNK, and everyone wipes to a bad AoE?

You are also assuming that a SAM can't DD while tanking.

I have seen Domaru SAMs outdamage Black Belt MNKs before, so don't give me that *** that a SAM can't outDD a MNK without Hasso.

Ok I'll edit my post for ppl.

Veg! Leave my Korgy alone! You're gonna get him all worked up!

BLU 11
COR 25
MNK 19
PLD 19
RNG 21

BLU 11
COR 25
MNK 18
PLD 19
RNG 22

MNK -1 / RNG +1

Thanks Maxse ^^

Sorry guys XD

Stop arguing about MNK Korpg, if you are going to vote, just vote and leave your comments out to start a fight with ppl.

>implying a good group would ever take a whm

mnk can counter while casting, sam cant counter without seigan+3rd eye.. are you only planning on taking hate once a minute? MNK IS BETTER AT TANKING THAN SAM

you might know some things korpg, but I dont believe salvage is an area youre too familiar with

SAM/NIN doesn't need to counter to keep alive.
SAM/NIN doesn't need Chakra if it doesn't get hit.
SAM/NIN doesn't have Penance, I will give you that.
SAM/NIN doesn't need 2k HP if it doesn't get hit.

As for having only 1 of the 4 boss titles, thats because I don't really do Salvage that often. If at all. Time restraints plus not able to find a team during my only free times kindof restricts doing Salvage.

But thats enough about me.

SAM can solo what it needs to solo also.

Again, I don't do Salvage as often as I like. But its not like I never did Salvage before.

That is the only reason why it might be a better tank, but during the times when Penance isn't up is when it feeds TP to the mobs the most. So in the long run it all evens out.

What? Between counterstance and good timing with shadows, you shouldn't be taking much dmg on mnk to begin with, mnk gets a free cure 4-5 that the whm won't have to waste mp on, penance.

As for the domaru sams, so what? I mean people who can play worth a ***. Take a GOOD sam and a GOOD mnk (black belt doesn't make a mnk good btw0), put them both on a chariot. Hasso is the only deciding factor for sam. Take that away and it's not even close, lol.


Again though, I wouldn't expect you to know much about DD'ing, mr sam af+1 for tanking.

**Gives Korpg a big hug**
Don't mind those guys, everyone else knows you're right!

As far as the tp given. Mnk will give less tp/point of damage than sam will overall, w/o even looking at penance, yet alone when you have it on.

korpggggggggggggggggg.... your argument makes 0 sense, I dont know if you remember the day that counter while casting was broken but there were probably a lot of wiped chariots that day, and that is a HUGE advantage mnk has over sam

You are in denial Korpg monk will get hit way less than sam, they have access to much more haste, with as readily available as BB is today most all monks will be at haste gear cap.

Sam is my main and its a nice job but they cant tank half as well as a BB monk with counterstance up. Monk will undoubatle get hit less than Sam not more.

You probally dont realize this also but utsusemis casting and recast time also gets *** by having seigan or hasso up, it really cripples Sams blink tanking abilities. There is always cancel to make seigan/hasso go off while casting utsusemi but thats a double edged sword because than next time you need to third eye seigan probally wont be ready.

Honestly you seem like a smart player and a good blm, but you are too much of a know it all and spout nonsense a75% of the time about things you dont have any grasp real on.

Nothing wrong with a good debate as long as we keep it civil ;(

BLU 12
COR 23
MNK 19
PLD 19
RNG 22

thank you maxse D:

and rdm is my favorite job D: idk how this thread works

Once per day you can vote to increase the votes for a job you like, and decrease for a job you dislike. Once a job reaches 0, it is eliminated and can't come back.

BLU 12
COR 23
MNK 19
PLD 19
RNG 22

Those are the current jobs left and vote total. Let's say you want to increase blu and decrease cor, you would post this:

BLU 13 (+)
COR 22 (-)
MNK 19
PLD 19
RNG 22

It's that simple. You may vote once per day.

penance isnt even THAT critical, its just another little perk mnk has over sam

and /dislike this thread! rdm+

Also, being able to kill the chariot faster leaves more time to fully farm the rest of the zone, killing all target NMs and boss, not just a few and boss.

used to run mnk mnk rdm rdm brd brd +th4 mule and we could clear everything