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サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 374
By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2010-01-29 16:34:20
Garuda.Wooooodum said: LET'S KILL PUP OFF COME ON GO GO GO AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lol /comforts pup
Ragnarok.Hotkarl
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 520
By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2010-01-29 16:40:37
+ 1 pup
- 1 thf
Bahamut.Skrapz
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1
By Bahamut.Skrapz 2010-01-29 16:46:36
DRG +1
MNK -1
Kujata.Akeda
サーバ: Kujata
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1698
By Kujata.Akeda 2010-01-29 16:54:19
Find a BLM who can put out 1000+ damage, then turn around and heal for 700
+1 SCH
SCH can hold it's own in either situation, but BLMs can still cast AM and WHMs can cast Cure V and Haste. So no, SCH isn't going to take them over and replace them. It's pretty silly to think that.
Just because SCH uses Ebullience and weather for extra damage doesn't make it any less powerful. That'd be like saying 'COR can only do big damage numbers because they have to rely on /RNG /WAR' or 'DRG can only solo with WHM subjob.'
Hades.Ustav said: Using Ebullience for epeen dmg is stupid and not very mp efficient. Parsimony > Ebullience in almost every way.
I don't want to turn this into a SCH vs BLM thread but this made me LOL because you don't even have SCH high to use Ebullience. You do know that using it doesn't increase the MP cost, right? It's 20% extra damage for free. If BLM had access to it, they wouldn't hesitate to use it and post epeen damage screen shots.
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-29 16:59:52
Quote: I don't want to turn this into a SCH vs BLM thread but this made me LOL because you don't even have SCH high to use Ebullience. You do know that using it doesn't increase the MP cost, right? It's 20% extra damage for free. If BLM had access to it, they wouldn't hesitate to use it and post epeen damage screen shots. Please tell me you use Parsimony and not Ebullience whenever you're actually trying to DD rather than get epeen damage for screenshots.
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6473
By Odin.Blazza 2010-01-29 17:15:56
Black Mage 7
Blue Mage 12 +
Corsair 12
Dragoon 9
Monk 9
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 3
Ranger 11
Red Mage 9
Samurai 5
Scholar 9
Thief 3
Warrior 4 -
That's with the last couple votes included, didn't add Akeda's though 'cause no - vote.
サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10387
By Siren.Enternius 2010-01-29 17:17:41
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Please tell me you use Parsimony and not Ebullience whenever you're actually trying to DD rather than get epeen damage for screenshots.
Please tell me you nuke in full Conserve MP gear, amirite?
Bismarck.Nevill
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2420
By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-01-29 17:21:11
Black Mage 7+1=8
Blue Mage 12
Corsair 12
Dragoon 9
Monk 9
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 3-1=2
Ranger 11
Red Mage 9
Samurai 5
Scholar 9
Thief 3
Warrior 4
Alright, today's vote!
Diabolos.Eclipstic
サーバ: Diabolos
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15
By Diabolos.Eclipstic 2010-01-29 17:22:43
BLM +1
RDM -1
Bismarck.Nevill
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2420
By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-01-29 17:24:48
Making it..
Black Mage 9
Blue Mage 12
Corsair 12
Dragoon 9
Monk 9
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 2
Ranger 11
Red Mage 8
Samurai 5
Scholar 9
Thief 3
Warrior 4
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 17:30:22
BST +1
COR -1
Bst you can do what you want and have lots of fun with it, Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor, you're probably forgetting to do one of the 3 or 4 things you do every few minutes for infinity.
Ironically Cor/Bst solo is pretty cool though..
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 17:34:02
Caitsith.Jadi said: Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor,
Worst reason for disliking a job anyone's posted yet. You're just lazy.
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 17:35:47
Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor,
Worst reason for disliking a job anyone's posted yet. You're just lazy.
Yes, I can't like it for the reasons I do. lol It's a good thing I don't need your approval to hold the opinions that I do. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't like keeping track of 3 or 4 different things at once for hours and hours upon end. If you forget too someone is sure to complain. I literally can't play the job for more than 2 hours because it gives me a headache. I don't mind doing anything Cor solo or low man, but in merit? I can't stand it. I assume Brd is the same thing only worse.. funny I don't see Brd ranked very high..
Bismarck.Rinako
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1193
By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-01-29 17:42:48
Most support jobs you need to pay attention 95% of the time or you're doing it wrong.
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 17:46:49
... and that's why people hate them.
And I don't have a problem paying attention on something like Nin, but with Cor it's the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over.. you get the point..
Thing is.. Cor is never rejected either.. even on things it's totally terrible at.
Such as a mob that spams AOE Dispell.. ppl don't bat an eye at putting a Cor in a fight like that but it's almost completely useless because of the timers once the rolls are dispelled.
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-29 17:47:28
Siren.Enternius said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Please tell me you use Parsimony and not Ebullience whenever you're actually trying to DD rather than get epeen damage for screenshots.
Please tell me you nuke in full Conserve MP gear, amirite? Completely different. Parsimony is always more MP-efficient than Ebulliece, which leads to longer uptimes and/or more nukes/minute for more total damage than 20% more on a single nuke once a minute. At best (1 nuke per minute), Ebullience is a straight 20% increase in damage dealt. In the same situation, Parsimony is a straight 50% increase to damage dealt because it allows you to nuke more for the same cost. 4 nukes becomes 4 Parsimony nukes and 2 normal nukes. 50% > 20%. If you're not just nuking, it's even more favorable.
Please tell me I got trolled.
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 17:50:59
Caitsith.Jadi said: Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor,
Worst reason for disliking a job anyone's posted yet. You're just lazy.
Yes, I can't like it for the reasons I do. lol It's a good thing I don't need your approval to hold the opinions that I do. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't like keeping track of 3 or 4 different things at once for hours and hours upon end. If you forget too someone is sure to complain. I literally can't play the job for more than 2 hours because it gives me a headache. I don't mind doing anything Cor solo or low man, but in merit? I can't stand it. I assume Brd is the same thing only worse.. funny I don't see Brd ranked very high..
You don't need my approval to have your opinion, but I don't need your approval to express my opinion. If you don't like a job because you have to pay too much attention, then I consider you very lazy, and it probably means you are, considering that COR is one of the most challenging jobs to get right that I've levelled.
By your own admission, you don't like paying attention. That implies a degree of laziness, however much you don't care.
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 17:54:57
Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor,
Worst reason for disliking a job anyone's posted yet. You're just lazy.
Yes, I can't like it for the reasons I do. lol It's a good thing I don't need your approval to hold the opinions that I do. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't like keeping track of 3 or 4 different things at once for hours and hours upon end. If you forget too someone is sure to complain. I literally can't play the job for more than 2 hours because it gives me a headache. I don't mind doing anything Cor solo or low man, but in merit? I can't stand it. I assume Brd is the same thing only worse.. funny I don't see Brd ranked very high..
You don't need my approval to have your opinion, but I don't need your approval to express my opinion. If you don't like a job because you have to pay too much attention, then I consider you very lazy, and it probably means you are, considering that COR is one of the most challenging jobs to get right that I've levelled.
By your own admission, you don't like paying attention. That implies a degree of laziness, however much you don't care.
Oh yeah.. cor is soo hard.. what you can't count?
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 17:58:31
Caitsith.Jadi said: Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Cor sucks.. it's tedious and you always have to pay attention to everything, If you are not doing something as Cor,
Worst reason for disliking a job anyone's posted yet. You're just lazy.
Yes, I can't like it for the reasons I do. lol It's a good thing I don't need your approval to hold the opinions that I do. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't like keeping track of 3 or 4 different things at once for hours and hours upon end. If you forget too someone is sure to complain. I literally can't play the job for more than 2 hours because it gives me a headache. I don't mind doing anything Cor solo or low man, but in merit? I can't stand it. I assume Brd is the same thing only worse.. funny I don't see Brd ranked very high..
You don't need my approval to have your opinion, but I don't need your approval to express my opinion. If you don't like a job because you have to pay too much attention, then I consider you very lazy, and it probably means you are, considering that COR is one of the most challenging jobs to get right that I've levelled.
By your own admission, you don't like paying attention. That implies a degree of laziness, however much you don't care.
Oh yeah.. cor is soo hard.. what you can't count?
Lol, what is it with this forum. Is nobody capable of discussing something without being an ***?
Bismarck.Rinako
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1193
By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-01-29 17:59:11
He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 18:00:19
Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll
So I see. Thanks for clearing that up. =)
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 18:00:21
Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll
Don't talk bad about the cor, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 18:01:33
Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll
Don't talk bad about the cor, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
It's nothing to do with that. It's just how you expressed yourself.
Bismarck.Nevill
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2420
By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-01-29 18:02:19
Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll Don't be an ***, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
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Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 18:08:29
Bismarck.Nevill said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll Don't be an ***, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
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Well I was called lazy 3 times before I said anything nasty back.. Are you keeping score?
Lol, what is it with this forum. Is nobody capable of discussing something without being an ***?
:: rolls eyes ::
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 18:09:51
Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll Don't be an ***, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
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Well I was called lazy 3 times before I said anything nasty back.. Are you keeping score?
If you consider an assessment of something you yourself suggested nastiness, you have very thin skin.
I could have been quite rude about it, but I chose not. Seems the effort at being civil was wasted on you however, so good day. I have better things to do than argue with you. =)
Bismarck.Nevill
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2420
By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-01-29 18:10:57
Well, let's not turn Maxse's game into a flame thread. Current count is as follows (Beastmaster dead already I think):
Black Mage 9
Blue Mage 12
Corsair 11
Dragoon 9
Monk 9
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 2
Ranger 11
Red Mage 8
Samurai 5
Scholar 9
Thief 3
Warrior 4
Caitsith.Jadi
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 200
By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-01-29 18:11:16
Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll Don't be an ***, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
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Well I was called lazy 3 times before I said anything nasty back.. Are you keeping score?
If you consider an assessment of something you yourself suggested nastiness, you have very thin skin.
Oh I see, your just being objective.. RRRRIIIIIGGGHHTT.. give me a *** break.
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-01-29 18:14:35
Caitsith.Jadi said: Garuda.Wooooodum said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Caitsith.Jadi said: Bismarck.Rinako said: He did the same thing in another thread; he's just a troll Don't be an ***, you'll be called a troll. :p heh
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Well I was called lazy 3 times before I said anything nasty back.. Are you keeping score?
If you consider an assessment of something you yourself suggested nastiness, you have very thin skin.
Oh I see, your just being objective.. RRRRIIIIIGGGHHTT.. give me a *** break.
Indeed. That's exactly what I was being. I'm sorry if you're too insecure that you assume everyone is out to get at you...
Let's play everybody! Regular H & H rules apply. Every character begins with 5 points each. Add one point to your favorite job, and take one point away from your least favorite job. One vote per day per player. Last job left wins the game. Let's do this!
Bard 5
Black Mage 5
Beastmaster 5 -1 (4)
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 5
Dancer 5
Dark Knight 5
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 5 +1 (6)
Paladin 5
Pupetmaster 5
Ranger 5
Red Mage 5
Samurai 5
Scholar 5
Summoner 5
Thief 5
Warrior 5
White Mage 5
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