Infographics Pros & Cons Of Pserver Vs. Retail
Infographics Pros & Cons of Pserver vs. Retail
Alright, anyone remember this doofus?
Tarage said: »
Alright, anyone remember this doofus?
no one is gonna say they remember me because the people i played with on retail at that time no longer play. heres some of the people that i knew IRL from other games i used to play. if u look up what servers they were on it lines up exactly to where i said i played. Galrid, Spilt, muhnjob. youre strawmanning by using a metric which u know is not going to work to prove the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
again what am i making up? youre literally seething over me saying i like retail and private servers so bad that you have resorted to MAKING up the claim that i NEVER played retail on era. absolutely unhinged
Honestly guys, I think we have a real win here which nobody's addressing and it makes me sick. Rockman learned how to use the quote function of ffxiah.
I actually somewhat agree with the premise PS fans often tout that game preference is just a personal opinion thing and different people like different games for various personal reasons.
I think there's still room for debate about WHY one game is better than another though, and I really don't hear a lot of reasons why PS or "the 75 era" is better, as content, than retail.
Common reasons are typically:
Modern ffxi has bots (you can just...not bot)
PS has exp parties which are really fun social experiences (the exp party is the least important part of this fun. Take those fun people and go play a real game with them instead)
Retail is really grindy (75 era FFXI is absurdly grindy and repetitive, with WAY fewer options to break up the grind)
I just fundamentally disagree with most of the opinions i hear and it doesn't help that, in my experience, the vast majority of PS stans haven't played retail in years, or often in decades. When they did play, it was often for like...under a month, only during free login campaigns, or they put in 1/1000th of the effort they put into their PS of choice. Or some combination of all of the above.
If you truly experienced all that retail has to offer and then got burned out and you're enjoying a change of pace...whatever you do you. If you're ignorant AF about retail and just making up nonsense and idolizing level 75 because you played it when you were a teen, I think you should revisit your assumptions about retail. Maybe you weren't on the right server, didn't give it enough time, didn't have the right expectations, guidance, or put in enough effort to find a community.
I guess it's also easier to just sit AFK for an hour with a party flag up than it is to actually socialize, so I'll hand that point to the PS. Making casual acquaintances is probably lower-effort on a PS because you just have to type in party chat about how good DRG used to be before the penta thrust nerf.
I actually somewhat agree with the premise PS fans often tout that game preference is just a personal opinion thing and different people like different games for various personal reasons.
I think there's still room for debate about WHY one game is better than another though, and I really don't hear a lot of reasons why PS or "the 75 era" is better, as content, than retail.
Common reasons are typically:
Modern ffxi has bots (you can just...not bot)
PS has exp parties which are really fun social experiences (the exp party is the least important part of this fun. Take those fun people and go play a real game with them instead)
Retail is really grindy (75 era FFXI is absurdly grindy and repetitive, with WAY fewer options to break up the grind)
I just fundamentally disagree with most of the opinions i hear and it doesn't help that, in my experience, the vast majority of PS stans haven't played retail in years, or often in decades. When they did play, it was often for like...under a month, only during free login campaigns, or they put in 1/1000th of the effort they put into their PS of choice. Or some combination of all of the above.
If you truly experienced all that retail has to offer and then got burned out and you're enjoying a change of pace...whatever you do you. If you're ignorant AF about retail and just making up nonsense and idolizing level 75 because you played it when you were a teen, I think you should revisit your assumptions about retail. Maybe you weren't on the right server, didn't give it enough time, didn't have the right expectations, guidance, or put in enough effort to find a community.
I guess it's also easier to just sit AFK for an hour with a party flag up than it is to actually socialize, so I'll hand that point to the PS. Making casual acquaintances is probably lower-effort on a PS because you just have to type in party chat about how good DRG used to be before the penta thrust nerf.
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Asura.Rockooo said: »
Tarage said: »
Alright, anyone remember this doofus?
no one is gonna say they remember me because the people i played with on retail at that time no longer play. heres some of the people that i knew IRL from other games i used to play. if u look up what servers they were on it lines up exactly to where i said i played. Galrid, Spilt, muhnjob. youre strawmanning by using a metric which u know is not going to work to prove the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
again what am i making up? youre literally seething over me saying i like retail and private servers so bad that you have resorted to MAKING up the claim that i NEVER played retail on era. absolutely unhinged
Like I have said several times, the way you describe 1-75 exping back in the day is factually incorrect. And golly, why would anyone question someone like you who, prior to commenting in a different private server thread, had zero interaction with this community at all. Why would anyone question someone who has ONLY posted in two threads, both related to private servers, who also claims they totally played a long time ago and the best aspect of that old experience was the thing universally panned by the playerbase. Totally legit.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I think there's still room for debate about WHY one game is better than another though, and I really don't hear a lot of reasons why PS or "the 75 era" is better, as content, than retail.
there is no debate nor should there be any reason to debate in the first place. retail obviously has more content and more stuff that you CAN do. private servers are so different in every aspect of the game its like comparing rocket league to gran turismo.
liking one doesnt take anything away from the other. yall are so butthurt simply because other people like something you dont. its completely unhinged. look how enraged yall have gotten over me simply stating i also play on a private server. so cringe. at no point did i say ps is better than retail, or even that i prefer one to the other. all i said is i play and enjoy both. touch grass
Yes private servers have such deep conversation in most exp parties such as
“brb”
“Sorry g2g”
“Ls needs me”
“Sorry I don’t have OP”
“Wow chain 4”
“<call 1> where are you?”
“Mt”
“brb”
“Sorry g2g”
“Ls needs me”
“Sorry I don’t have OP”
“Wow chain 4”
“<call 1> where are you?”
“Mt”
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Local doofus gets called out, throws tantrum and calls everyone else cringe and tells them to touch grass. There's no way in hell you're old enough to have played during the CoP and ToAU days.
Tarage said: »
Like I have said several times, the way you describe 1-75 exping back in the day is factually incorrect
what did i describe as being factually incorrect? my opinion? are u braindead? just because the majority of people like one thing doesnt mean every one else is lying about what they like. i cannot believe having to explain this to someone that is at least 30 years old.
the reason i never posted here is the same reason i dont post on any forums for any video game. its not my thing. seeing people that dont play on ps be so unhinged tho made me feel compelled to share my thoughts on the matter. its not my job to leave a record of every game ive played just in case some unhinged weirdo on the internet doesnt believe i played it. obviously i played? i already gave you the names of people i used to play with that i knew from before i started playing ffxi. they match exactly to when and where i said i played.
Mhmm. Is it also your "style" to never capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I am giving you exactly as much effort in my replies as you deserve clown.
Tarage said: »
Mhmm. Is it also your "style" to never capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I am giving you exactly as much effort in my replies as you deserve clown.
yes it is my style to not care at all about grammar on the internet. if this were a dissertation maybe id care a bit more. how sad you have to resort to flaming someone over a lack of capitalization in an online video game forum lmfao.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I think there's still room for debate about WHY one game is better than another though, and I really don't hear a lot of reasons why PS or "the 75 era" is better, as content, than retail.
The fundamental question you're asking isn't conducive to anything but bunch of nonsense of yelling at each other over people's preference for how they spend their free time. The question that opens this up to a civil, fun discussion is: I think there's still room for
Telling someone a ham sandwich is objectively better than a PB&J when all of this is subjective is silly. It's like everyone feels they're having their personal identity attacked for what they like and they need to go on a rant debasing the other side to justify their existence.
Tarage said: »
Mhmm. Is it also your "style" to never capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I am giving you exactly as much effort in my replies as you deserve clown.
literally flabbergasted at how angry youre getting over me saying i like retail and private servers lol.
y'all need to set your avatars!
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Asura.Mavira said: »
Yes private servers have such deep conversation in most exp parties such as
“brb”
“Sorry g2g”
“Ls needs me”
“Sorry I don’t have OP”
“Wow chain 4”
“<call 1> where are you?”
“Mt”
“brb”
“Sorry g2g”
“Ls needs me”
“Sorry I don’t have OP”
“Wow chain 4”
“<call 1> where are you?”
“Mt”
IDK...
Asura.Toeknee said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I think there's still room for debate about WHY one game is better than another though, and I really don't hear a lot of reasons why PS or "the 75 era" is better, as content, than retail.
The fundamental question you're asking isn't conducive to anything but bunch of nonsense of yelling at each other over people's preference for how they spend their free time. The question that opens this up to a civil, fun discussion is: I think there's still room for
Telling someone a ham sandwich is objectively better than a PB&J when all of this is subjective is silly. It's like everyone feels they're having their personal identity attacked for what they like and they need to go on a rant debasing the other side to justify their existence.
im personally not interested in which is better. like i said earlier. sometimes i feel like playing on retail. sometimes i feel like playing on a ps. thats literally it. them losing your minds over the fact that someone can possibly like something they dont is not my problem.
i completely agree. telling someone their opinion is more right than someone elses makes no sense. like i said earlier, opinions are subjective. you cannot tell me im wrong for liking something i like. its unhinged.
Asura.Rockooo said: »
Tarage said: »
Mhmm. Is it also your "style" to never capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I am giving you exactly as much effort in my replies as you deserve clown.
literally flabbergasted at how angry youre getting over me saying i like retail and private servers lol.
So flabbergasted you replied twice to the same post. I ain't even mad, I'm laughing at your clown ***.
You two need to get a room or fight in DMs.
Drayco said: »
Asura.Rockooo said: »
another huge difference is the difference in pacing. everything is happening so fast theres zero communication among players unless you already know the people you are grouped with and are in some form of voice chat. not saying the speed difference is a bad thing at all, just pointing out they are not comparable. the 1-75 grind however is much more slower paced allowing room for lots of typing and communication, thus fostering a means by which players tend to make friends or in the least be more social.
But then I go try out Horizon and I get 18 exp soloing mobs and I have to rest for 3mins to get my mp back.
Yeahhhhh no thanks. That’s what I like now is the faster combat speed.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I actually somewhat agree with the premise PS fans often tout that game preference is just a personal opinion thing and different people like different games for various personal reasons.
This 100%.
I know this thread is obviously biased, but my FC from FFXIV taught me one thing. "You can't force people to enjoy what you love." There are FFXI vets who played this game for years and then switched to FFXIV, and they have no intention of going back. They enjoy hearing me share my memories in their Discord, but that doesn’t mean they want to come back.
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Tarage said: »
Asura.Rockooo said: »
Tarage said: »
Mhmm. Is it also your "style" to never capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I am giving you exactly as much effort in my replies as you deserve clown.
literally flabbergasted at how angry youre getting over me saying i like retail and private servers lol.
So flabbergasted you replied twice to the same post. I ain't even mad, I'm laughing at your clown ***.
lol keep raging because i like something you dont pal.
You just completely miss the point. Nobody was saying you should stop wasting your time on that fake cheap imitation server. They just were tired of constantly having it shoved in their face with constant promotion across every damn social media platform. What domt you get about that? Nobody is coming for your garbage srtver. Thats how I know I didn't say that, because I couldn't care less. I would rather just ignore it like every other one before it. But you and others keep bugging us acting like you are playing the more sophisticated brand of FFXI. I just find it incredible people could ever think that server is somehow superior to retail. It's almost comical, like you are not a real FFXI fan.
Oh I don't think you are a real fan then. I'm sorry you would waste your time by choosing an inferior copy!
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